MotoGp - Gran Premio d'Italia 2017 - Spoilers

Jumkie · Jun 3, 2017

Theo said:
A lot of this post of yours is correct, but I can't like it as you have some serious issues attitude wise, I would offer as advice grow up, you are so far up your own arse its incredible.

I'm not so sure I'm expressing conceit rather than anger and disgust, but I will take your point. I've never been very good at expressing my opinions whilst angry, that hasn't stopped me from posting diatribes. Curse of having access so readily to the soapbox.

I was trying to express my negative reaction at self-promotion at the expense of such an awful tragedy. It basically pissed me off and took to expressing it while angry. There have been several fantastic tributes, I felt this smacked of shameless brand promotion and sympathy seeking.

I do cringe at my own posts sometimes, I suppose I should adopt a more mild writing style. The hubris of pointing out I'm far up my arse, as you put it, isn't lost on me. I've gone back to edit my post and attached a disclaimer.

Motokitty · Jun 3, 2017

Among all these 69s, I liked the black ribbon of Pedro the best.

povol · Jun 3, 2017

Jumkie said:
I'm not so sure I'm expressing conceit rather than anger and disgust, but I will take your point. I've never been very good at expressing my opinions whilst angry, that hasn't stopped me from posting diatribes. Curse of having access so readily to the soapbox.

I was trying to express my negative reaction at self-promotion at the expense of such an awful tragedy. It basically pissed me off and took to expressing it while angry. There have been several fantastic tributes, I felt this smacked of shameless brand promotion and sympathy seeking.

I do cringe at my own posts sometimes, I suppose I should adopt a more mild writing style. The hubris of pointing out I'm far up my arse, as you put it, isn't lost on me. I've gone back to edit my post and attached a disclaimer.

If he is profiting off the sale of #69 memorabilia he is a scumbag of the highest degree. If he used it as an opportunity to fund a nice charity in Nicky's name i would be ok with that It will be interesting to see if that helmet replica is offered to the public, and to see where the money goes.

JohnnyKnockdown · Jun 3, 2017

Go to motogp.coms merch page. Theres no 69 swag for sale. I bet that will change soon.

Keshav · Jun 3, 2017

povol said:
If he is profiting off the sale of #69 memorabilia he is a scumbag of the highest degree. If he used it as an opportunity to fund a nice charity in Nicky's name i would be ok with that It will be interesting to see if that helmet replica is offered to the public, and to see where the money goes.

Have you seen anything, at all, that would indicate Rossi is profiting from this?

Anyone wanting to get outraged should go to Ebay. It was pointed out to me that there were RIP T-shirts available there, less than two hour after it was reported that Nicky had passed. Takes your breath away.

Jumkie · Jun 3, 2017

povol said:
If he is profiting off the sale of #69 memorabilia he is a scumbag of the highest degree. If he used it as an opportunity to fund a nice charity in Nicky's name i would be ok with that It will be interesting to see if that helmet replica is offered to the public, and to see where the money goes.

Ask yourself what's the focus of such a design, 46-9? Answer: Rossi made it about him, self-promotion of 46 brand by attaching the design to Nicky's number, that is brand value. Value. You don't have to directly make a dime. Charity work is often about self promotion, and that entails "giving money" away, the meager price of goodwill. Big business do it all the time. Rossi is ever aware of promoting his brand. This is a tribute to himself using Nicky's good name. Rossi attaching Nicky's number to his brand is opportunistic, sympathy whoring and brand grandiosity.

JPSLotus · Jun 3, 2017

If you want to buy merchandise that supports Nicky, buy from here: https://www.gpracingapparels.com

His family said that is where to go along with another site I forget.

michaelm · Jun 3, 2017

Jumkie said:
Ask yourself what's the focus of such a design, 46-9? Answer: Rossi made it about him, self-promotion of 46 brand by attaching the design to Nicky's number, that is brand value. Value. You don't have to directly make a dime. Charity work is often about self promotion, and that entails "giving money" away, the meager price of goodwill. Big business do it all the time. Rossi is ever aware of promoting his brand. This is a tribute to himself using Nicky's good name. Rossi attaching Nicky's number to his brand is opportunistic, sympathy whoring and brand grandiosity.

Dorna have blocked the video, so I can't really make an informed comment, but 46 is definitely a brand name for Rossi more than anything now, and on the face of it even if not really thought out by him I tend to agree it is towards being tawdry to combine it with Nicky's number in the way he seems to have done.

After the events of late season 2015 I do think it possible though that he lives so much in his own world that he and Uccio genuinely think this is the best way for them to honour Nicky.

Gaz · Jun 3, 2017

IMO only here, but for me, the VR helmet tribute to Nicky would be significantly better if the US flag was the backdrop to the Nicky number 69 component of the combined numbers.

I say this as when I think of Nicky's number I always think of the stars and stripes component

birdman · Jun 3, 2017

Jumkie said:
I'm not so sure I'm expressing conceit rather than anger and disgust, but I will take your point. I've never been very good at expressing my opinions whilst angry, that hasn't stopped me from posting diatribes. Curse of having access so readily to the soapbox.

I was trying to express my negative reaction at self-promotion at the expense of such an awful tragedy. It basically pissed me off and took to expressing it while angry. There have been several fantastic tributes, I felt this smacked of shameless brand promotion and sympathy seeking.

I do cringe at my own posts sometimes, I suppose I should adopt a more mild writing style. The hubris of pointing out I'm far up my arse, as you put it, isn't lost on me. I've gone back to edit my post and attached a disclaimer.

I read you're post as coming from the heart not the arse, then again I have no issue with Theos response either. Thats the forum for me, the less politically correct the better, so I hope you never go mild writing style. Jumkie mild? No way. Ive said it before I honestly find the forum far less entertaining when your not around. Now before this gets seen as a love fest there were times where Jumkie and I disagreed on just about every topic. On this topic though I happen to agree.

This helmet tribute was class:

This one is ...:

Iamapony · Jun 3, 2017

Jumkie said:
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I do cringe at my own posts sometimes, I suppose I should adopt a more mild writing style. The hubris of pointing out I'm far up my arse, as you put it, isn't lost on me. I've gone back to edit my post and attached a disclaimer.

You gave him a "like". I think you are on a good forum if you want people to tell you that you are an arse. I'll participate, if it will ease your pain, and save you money on professional psychoanalysis. :spin:

I have been afraid to go back to read responses to my posts on too many occasions. And drinking while conversing online can really get one in porta-potty posting problems. Just a reminder, in case you forget. Also remember that you are never the worst and never alone.

Arrabbiata1 · Jun 4, 2017

The adaptation of the "Wish You Were Here" album cover for Marco at Misano went on sale as a limited edition for £699. I have no idea whether the proceeds went to The Marco Simoncelli Foundation but AGV wasted no time marketing it. Although there is no question that the sentiment was genuine, in my opinion the best thing about it was the fact that its centrepiece was derived from Storm Thorgergson's original artwork as opposed to the usual tacky, tawdry and kitsch Aldo Drudi monstrosity.

Contrary to popular belief, the 2008 Mugello design wasn't supposed to be the face you make when you crest Casanova-Savelli, rather it captures Rossi's expression whenever his accountant updates him on the royalties from his image rights...

And speaking of which, this year's treat is a tribute to Francesco Totti who announced that he will retire from football at the end of this season.

Frankly, I'd be embarrassed...it's ...... Even this was better...

It really does get more cringeworthy every year.

Gaz · Jun 4, 2017

Ianonne's helmet tribute - https://twitter.com/andreaiannone29/status/870920299449131009

J4rn0 · Jun 4, 2017

Jumkie said:
Ask yourself what's the focus of such a design, 46-9? Answer: Rossi made it about him, self-promotion of 46 brand by attaching the design to Nicky's number, that is brand value. Value. You don't have to directly make a dime. Charity work is often about self promotion, and that entails "giving money" away, the meager price of goodwill. Big business do it all the time. Rossi is ever aware of promoting his brand. This is a tribute to himself using Nicky's good name. Rossi attaching Nicky's number to his brand is opportunistic, sympathy whoring and brand grandiosity.

You sound like an incurable case of omniscience... No surprise, that being you, -- but unless you are in Rossi's head how can you even remotely know his real intentions and feelings? Even to a suspect killer one would leave the benefit of doubt...

AJV80 · Jun 4, 2017

Arrabbiata1 said:
The adaptation of the "Wish You Were Here" album cover for Marco at Misano went on sale as a limited edition for £699. I have no idea whether the proceeds went to The Marco Simoncelli Foundation but AGV wasted no time marketing it. Although there is no question that the sentiment was genuine, in my opinion the best thing about it was the fact that its centrepiece was derived from Storm Thorgergson's original artwork as opposed to the usual tacky, tawdry and kitsch Aldo Drudi monstrosity.

Have to agree, with Pink Floyd being one of my favourite bands I couldn't think of a cooler motorcycle helmet design ... mind you I still wouldnt fork out those dollars for an AGV. Reasonable fitting helmets but the quality and wear is very ordinary.

danski · Jun 4, 2017

Unbelievable moto 3 race, not going to name winners etc but never seen so many riders so close on the last lap, absolute thriller!

shaunna · Jun 4, 2017

It's rare that I can post something about Rossi without it turning into something negative. I can understand why some feel the way that I feel, I just don't share their opinion. I think it's a good thing we all have different opinions, would be a boring forum otherwise if it was the same post in and out

I have a secret assumption that YouTube are in on the Rossi bandwagon too (sarcasm) / my Rossi and simincelli video is still up (558,000+ views but they've ended up muting the song as someone whinged) however I made a video for a Hayden tribute (wasn't Rossi themed) and the whole thing was taken down. Go figure

paparazzo · Jun 4, 2017

Jumkie said:
Disclaimer: posted while angry. Hopefully my point isn't lost on my poor expression.

It can't just be about Nicky can it? Rossi is a sympathy thief, an honor thief, a limelight thief. I had wondered how Rossi would make this awful tragedy about himself....

Anything he would have done to his helmet you would have attacked him anyway. The '69' is more promnent than the '4' and stick out nicely. If he didn't do anything, you would have attacked him for...not doing anything for Nicky. You use the death of Nicky as excuse and another opportunity to forward your obsession and anti Rossi agenda to attack and rip into Rossi yet again. What does that make you? You're truly a sick individual and need mental therapy.

Gaz · Jun 4, 2017

shaunna said:
I have a secret assumption that YouTube are in on the Rossi bandwagon too (sarcasm) / my Rossi and simincelli video is still up (558,000+ views but they've ended up muting the song as someone whinged) however I made a video for a Hayden tribute (wasn't Rossi themed) and the whole thing was taken down. Go figure

Missed that Shaunna, have you got it anywhere else (Vimeo, Streamable?)

Would like to see it if possible as if it is like your others, then will be good.

shaunna · Jun 4, 2017

Gaz said:
Missed that Shaunna, have you got it anywhere else (Vimeo, Streamable?)

Would like to see it if possible as if it is like your others, then will be good.

Thanks Gaz

Have been trying to upload it to an alternative streaming service. Will get it to work over the next few days and will post the link when I do

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