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MotoGP: 2016 Round 1 - Qatar (SPOILERS)

Did anyone see Iannone's aggressive pass on Dovi, which sat him up? Nobody has as much mentioned it in the least. But consider how much Rossi has perverted the racing. Prompting Dovi to fight straight back. A crime at Sepang. Had Lorenzo or Marquez done this to Rossi he and his fans would be screaming bloody murder and Race Direction would have been on high terror alert.
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I did notice that Jums, and didn't really think anything of it except hard racing. You're right, it's a style Rossi has brought into the sport, but god forbid anyone try it ON HIM.

Great Ducati test video Gaz, thanks for posting.
 
Did anyone see Iannone's aggressive pass on Dovi, which sat him up? Nobody has as much mentioned it in the least. But consider how much Rossi has perverted the racing. Prompting Dovi to fight straight back. A crime at Sepang. Had Lorenzo or Marquez done this to Rossi he and his fans would be screaming bloody murder and Race Direction would have been on high terror alert.
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Iannone was not expecting Dovi to be as fast as him in the race, so when he passed him he couldn't take it and immediately retaliated. Then Dovi passed him a gain and Iannone got restless, put his front wheel on the white paint (a thing you don't do at Qatar) and down he went. I think in this case Iannone has only himself to blame, he should have been patient and stayed behind Dovi for a while -- but the teammate is always the main rival, old story.

Oh, and I must had missed that, -- didn't know that Rossi invented aggressive passes. Thank you for pointing it out... now everythig makes sense. What would we understand without you... :)
 
Duc sounds great as usual.

The speed down the straight though...god almighty.

I am going to call it now, the Ducati will be hitting 230MPH at Mugello.

Not officially, but probably close by Brembo's calculations.
 
Oh, and I must had missed that, -- didn't know that Rossi invented aggressive passes. Thank you for pointing it out... now everythig makes sense. What would we understand without you... :)

I think something must have got lost in translation buddy. I didn't say Rossi 'invented' aggressive passes, I said he 'perverted' it. Big difference.



Did anyone see Iannone's aggressive pass on Dovi, which sat him up? Nobody has as much mentioned it in the least. But consider how much Rossi has PERVERTED the racing. Prompting Dovi to fight straight back. A crime at Sepang. Had Lorenzo or Marquez done this to Rossi he and his fans would be screaming bloody murder and Race Direction would have been on high terror alert.
 
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I think something must have got lost in translation buddy. I didn't say Rossi 'invented' aggressive passes, I said he 'perverted' it. Big difference.

How would you say that Rossi 'perverted' aggressive passes? As one Ayrton Senna put it "if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver". I might be missing something here, but I would like to know what you mean by that.
 
How would you say that Rossi 'perverted' aggressive passes? As one Ayrton Senna put it "if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver". I might be missing something here, but I would like to know what you mean by that.

Sure, I'll explain. Rossi has always professed he is a hard core racer, one who has supposedly enjoyed aggressive racing and on track battles. It's one of the reasons why his fans adore him. However, i think it was ........ because in three occasions that riders battled him with aggressive but CLEAN passes, he cried and whined about it, and even confronted these riders privately (Pedrosa and Iannone) and publicly accused one (Marquez) of deliberately causing him harm over the crime of clean racing. But in fact these three were only passing him aggressively like supposedly Rossi himself has professed to enjoy this type of racing. Therefore Rossi has exposed himself to being a chickenshit coward who obviously only likes aggressive racing when he is on the winning end. Too much to explain here, but often those battles were in a position where Rossi had a mechanical advantage, not to mention the advantage that Race Direction would not interven when his moves crossed the line.

But how has this 'perverted' the racing? His whining, crying, accusing, and disapproval of aggressive racing sparked a verbal disapproval by the organizers themselves, where the main official of Race Direction pronounced Marquez's clean passes as dubious! That is a perversion of racing. Furthermore, the majority of Rossi's fanbase equally protested this type of racing echoing Rossi's accusations that the aggressive clean passes were unfair, cheating, and dubious, which is a perversion of racing! Thanks to Rossi, aggressive passing is now suspect when it comes to him.

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How would you say that Rossi 'perverted' aggressive passes? As one Ayrton Senna put it "if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver". I might be missing something here, but I would like to know what you mean by that.

Marquez went for a gap on the last lap at Assen

He got reamed royally for it as people from all corners of the globe as well as Antarctic penguins posted that he is a dangerous fool, how dare he punt the rider he was overtaking (who's name escapes me)


I love to punch people in the face. I hate being punched in the face.

.... Curve, that is an awesome way of putting it actually and it does sum it up

Although for me, the last time I got punched in the face I walked away with a light bruise, the puncher had a hand smashed in about 5 places and needed surgery. :D
 
Sure, I'll explain. Rossi has always professed he is a hard core racer, one who has supposedly enjoyed aggressive racing and on track battles. It's one of the reasons why his fans adore him. However, i think it was ........ because in three occasions that riders battled him with aggressive but CLEAN passes, he cried and whined about it, and even confronted these riders privately (Pedrosa and Iannone) and publicly accused one (Marquez) of deliberately causing him harm over the crime of clean racing. But in fact these three were only passing him aggressively like supposedly Rossi himself has professed to enjoy this type of racing. Therefore Rossi has exposed himself to being a chickenshit coward who obviously only likes aggressive racing when he is on the winning end. Too much to explain here, but often those battles were in a position where Rossi had a mechanical advantage, not to mention the advantage that Race Direction would not interven when his moves crossed the line.

But how has this 'perverted' the racing? His whining, crying, accusing, and disapproval of aggressive racing sparked a verbal disapproval by the organizers themselves, where the main official of Race Direction pronounced Marquez's clean passes as dubious! That is a perversion of racing. Furthermore, the majority of Rossi's fanbase equally protested this type of racing echoing Rossi's accusations that the aggressive clean passes were unfair, cheating, and dubious, which is a perversion of racing! Thanks to Rossi, aggressive passing is now suspect when it comes to him.

Welcome to the forum.

Could not have said it any better! :clap3:
 
RIP Sandy Rainey

(I mentioned it in the 'Les We Forget' thread in the Lounge, but just wanted to make a note of it here.)

The bit about not only dedicated to help his son race, but teaching him to be respectful, polite, fun, and not spoiled was the man's greatest accomplishment. What any good father will tell you is their greatest aspiration. Though Mr. Sandy Rainey was not only a good father, but he was also a very clever man. I remember reading an article a long time ago where Wayne talks about his dad experimenting with the bike, making him into a better rider because he was forced to ride around problems. Apparently Mr. Sandy passed away during the GP season opener Qatar event. Fitting I suppose, as every new season brings promise of excitement and motorcycle racing, something that surely had quite the emotion for him. The man is definitely a Legend like his son.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/rip-sandy-rainey/
 
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He did. RIP

However, apparently he has a new pet, as per the Dorna feed graphics. Not sure if any other riders have pets.

Scott Redding has two dogs Biggie and Bernhard.
Biggie is a mastiff and Bernie an heinz 57,
He found two dogs recently whist walking his a spaniel type and a puppy. he took them home, advertised and took them to the vets for a check up.
It looks like the Reddings have two new lodgers now,
So he now has four.
PS The bulldog on the back of some of his helmets was his previous dog. RIP.
 
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Some good analysis of the race by Stoner.

MotoGP News - Casey Stoner reviews Qatar MotoGP race

Some good quotes, I highlight one particular quote I found interesting:

Not only was retired double MotoGP champion Casey Stoner a keen spectator for Ducati at the Qatar season opener, he also rode at the same Losail circuit on Monday and Tuesday.

And while sheltering from showers on the opening night of his private test, the Australian star - back at Ducati as a brand ambassador and test rider - gave his opinion on the first race of the new Michelin and single ECU era.

Yamaha's reigning champion Jorge Lorenzo won the grand prix by 2.019s from Ducati's Andrea Dovizioso, who outsmarted a last corner attack from Honda's Marc Marquez. Valentino Rossi completed the lead quartet, just 2.387s from victory.

“Overall, the race was kind of as I expected in that no-one was really a standout and there was no runaway winner - even if Jorge, towards the end of the race once everyone let him get comfortable, did what Jorge does best!” Stoner began.

“No-one has got the hang of the Michelin tyres yet - you can see it from the lap times. They were very up and down; one lap would be pretty average and the next would be six tenths faster. That's a bit unique.

“A lot of people made mistakes and ran wide too, but I think Michelin have shown how competitive they're going to be - and they beat my bloody lap record from 2008!” he smiled.

“It was also a fast race time even though they all kind of held each other up. That's impressive as far as Michelin's standards go, in my opinion. Everyone still just needs to come to grips with the fact that they will not perform in the same way as a Bridgestone and stop expecting them to.

“Some people are complaining, 'I can't go into the corner the same way I could on the Bridgestones'. Okay, but they've got other benefits, so let's use those. In time, they'll forget what a Bridgestone felt like and start adapting themselves to the Michelins and it seems like it's finally going that way.

“But as a spectator, the race was fantastic with a nice little battle there at the end.

“I'm very disappointed for Iannone that he crashed out. He showed pace all weekend and I think he would have been a front contender [at the end] as well, depending on how things played out.”

Iannone fell from second place shortly after losing the lead to team-mate Dovizioso. But once Lorenzo hit the front on lap 9 there was relatively little overtaking, despite the lead group being so close.

“You're going to have to pass differently on the Michelins,” Stoner explained, when asked if riders appeared a little nervous about trying to overtake. “It's going to be more about setting yourself up on corner exit and then passing on the next entry - not passing from a long way back on the brakes.

“Not only that, but because everyone has crashed on these tyres - they wanted to win, but there's that little voice telling them, 'let's come out of here with some points and build on that'. They all ran wide a few times as well, so everyone is finding their feet and knowing where the limits are.

“It was also a high-paced race. You have to look at that as well. Like Valencia last year. People can criticise all they want [about that race], but it was a high-paced race at a bloody hard track to pass on! It was kind of like that here - no one wanted to get off-line or take a risk.”

Ducati haven't won a MotoGP race since Stoner's home Phillip Island victory in 2010, a statistic the Australian is trying to help erase through his testing and development work.

“I think the Desmosedici had a good chance of winning here if things had panned out a little differently and we've got room for improvement. All the manufacturers are going to say that, but knowing this bike and spending time on it, there definitely is,” Stoner declared.

“For me that's a big positive. To already be that competitive, with room to move forward is a very, very good thing.

“That's something we're trying to do at these tests; find a few things that the boys can use, without them having to waste time testing during a race weekend. They can just put them on and find the balance.

“I believe it was a good performance. It showed the potential. Ducati started well here last year, but as an overall package the bike feels stronger this year, so that's a good place to be.”

Stoner made his debut on the 2016 Ducati during this week's test, having only used the GP15 at Sepang in February.

The 30-year-old's next outing is still to be decided, with fellow test rider Michele Pirro replacing injured Pramac rider Danilo Petrucci in the upcoming rounds.
 
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