Race One 2019 - Losail Raceway - Doha, Qatar

Theo · Mar 21, 2019

evo9 said:
Good! Lets get back on track. Aprilia Massimo Rivola is the driving force behind this for good reasons. Read the hack oxley bit here > https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/will-ducati-and-dovi-be-axed-qatar-motogp-results

There you will find the connection with Ferrari & Ducati, and the reason for the protest.

I agree with some of the comments after the article, if it does both then the device has to be banned, but as Danny Aldridge had already said it was legal, then Ducati keep the points from Losail, but aren't allowed to use it any more.

Little Walter · Mar 21, 2019

evo9 said:
The same way if you put a beak & comb on a dog & call it a chicken.

This clarifies nothing.

Did you or did you not refer to the Ducati as a pig w lipstick?

evo9 · Mar 22, 2019

Dall'Igna also revealed that he was angry at Danilo Petrucci, for talking about the parts at the Qatar test. "I was furious with Petrucci, who spoke about cooling the tires during the test."

https://motomatters.com/news/2019/03/22/court_of_appeal_ruling_on_ducati.html

Petrucci on the chopping block?? Dall'Igna was also furious he had reveal more information than he wanted to.

Theo · Mar 22, 2019

evo9 said:
https://motomatters.com/news/2019/03/22/court_of_appeal_ruling_on_ducati.html

Petrucci on the chopping block?? Dall'Igna was also furious he had reveal more information than he wanted to.

Its all bloody politics. Next we will hear that Dorna have banned it but Ducati can keep the points because uncle Caramel has taken a bribe.

Keshav · Mar 24, 2019

Theo said:
Its all bloody politics. Next we will hear that Dorna have banned it but Ducati can keep the points because uncle Caramel has taken a bribe.

If nothing else the appeals people will disallow the protest to discourage more of the same. If Carmelo had any say in the decision - he'd stand firm with Aldridge to discourage challenges to authority and more to the point it's to their benefit for Ducati to thrive in order that they should continue to compete with confidence against Honda and give people a good show. To a zillion dollar business like Dorna it's not about athleticism - it's show biz.

Iamapony · Mar 27, 2019

Keshav said:
If nothing else the appeals people will disallow the protest to discourage more of the same. If Carmelo had any say in the decision - he'd stand firm with Aldridge to discourage challenges to authority and more to the point it's to their benefit for Ducati to thrive in order that they should continue to compete with confidence against Honda and give people a good show. To a zillion dollar business like Dorna it's not about athleticism - it's show biz.

And this is exactly what happened, in my opinion. The flaw in your argument, however, is that they are penalizing weaker teams than Ducati. That makes no sense. They worked for years to get more manufacturers in there. It is no time to favor Ducati, unless they pay you pretty well.

Iamapony · Mar 27, 2019

Theo said:
Made me smile that, but I don't want Barbedwirebiker to go.

I didn't get this. Fill me in later.

Keshav · Mar 27, 2019

Iamapony said:
And this is exactly what happened, in my opinion. The flaw in your argument, however, is that they are penalizing weaker teams than Ducati. That makes no sense. They worked for years to get more manufacturers in there. It is no time to favor Ducati, unless they pay you pretty well.

Fill me in. What weaker teams are being penalized?

BTW - ready for Austin?

Iamapony · Mar 27, 2019

Aprilia, specifically. Aprilia, Suzuki and KTM generally. Ape asked to use the same thing and were denied.

I ain't ready for sh!t, except for another Chardonnay.

Keshav · Mar 27, 2019

Iamapony said:
Aprilia, specifically. Aprilia, Suzuki and KTM generally. Ape asked to use the same thing and were denied.

I ain't ready for sh!t, except for another Chardonnay.

Not getting you. What were they denied???

ratdeal · Mar 27, 2019

Iamapony said:
Aprilia, specifically. Aprilia, Suzuki and KTM generally. Ape asked to use the same thing and were denied.

I ain't ready for sh!t, except for another Chardonnay.

Although we are told the Aprilia solution wasn't sanctioned, no one has seen it yet apart from the team and Aldridge so we can't know that the design was the same or similar in principle.

If Aldridge denied it's legality but approved Ducati's solution I find it hard to believe they are really that similar. His judgement hasn't been called into question before in this way. Unless of course if during approval Aprilia straight up told him it's primary function is that of a downforce producing device, but I find it hard to believe Aprilia are that stupid.

Theo · Mar 28, 2019

Iamapony said:
I didn't get this. Fill me in later.

Originally Posted by Iamapony View Post
Yes, please do give this site a break.

That was your original reply to Barbedwirebiker and its not as if he's a spammer or a lets look for a fight type (well thats my take on it)

Iamapony · Mar 29, 2019

Theo said:
Originally Posted by Iamapony View Post
Yes, please do give this site a break.

That was your original reply to Barbedwirebiker and its not as if he's a spammer or a lets look for a fight type (well thats my take on it)

He was talking to someone else and I was AGREEING with what he said. I don't see anything to insult him, unless he is a Rossi fan and didn't like my Rossi quip. I hope he didn't take it the opposite way, also. Seems really silly to be explaining a simple declarative affirming sentence. Although, people do get really agitated over imagined slanders, around here.

Iamapony · Mar 29, 2019

ratdeal said:
Although we are told the Aprilia solution wasn't sanctioned, no one has seen it yet apart from the team and Aldridge so we can't know that the design was the same or similar in principle.

If Aldridge denied it's legality but approved Ducati's solution I find it hard to believe they are really that similar. His judgement hasn't been called into question before in this way. Unless of course if during approval Aprilia straight up told him it's primary function is that of a downforce producing device, but I find it hard to believe Aprilia are that stupid.

Speculation is that Aprilia did say it was for downforce, while Ducati said it was for cooling. If true, that is really silly. Yamaha said it was for rain, thus they can only run it in the wet. How about you can put wings on the swingarm or you can't? Period!

Keshav · Mar 29, 2019

Funny really to see the back and forth seesawing here. On one had people are bitching about aero and a minute later they’re whinging “But it’s supposed to be prototype racing!

Same w the whole, Wings are ugly! complaint. Like it’s a beauty contest.

Theo · Mar 29, 2019

Iamapony said:
He was talking to someone else and I was AGREEING with what he said. I don't see anything to insult him, unless he is a Rossi fan and didn't like my Rossi quip. I hope he didn't take it the opposite way, also. Seems really silly to be explaining a simple declarative affirming sentence. Although, people do get really agitated over imagined slanders, around here.

I didn't say you insulted him or there was any slander, just quoting how it seemed to me. so lets just leave it at that

Theo · Mar 29, 2019

Keshav said:
Funny really to see the back and forth seesawing here. On one had people are bitching about aero and a minute later they’re whinging “But it’s supposed to be prototype racing!

Same w the whole, Wings are ugly! complaint. Like it’s a beauty contest.

Yes it is a prototype race series, but I still stand by my "wings should be banned" after all do we have them on street bikes?
As has been pointed out over the years things make their way from race machines to road use.

Keshav · Mar 29, 2019

Theo said:
Yes it is a prototype race series, but I still stand by my "wings should be banned" after all do we have them on street bikes?
As has been pointed out over the years things make their way from race machines to road use.

I don't see how what we have on street bikes matters all that much. We don't see one tenth of the exotic technology from GP bikes on what we ride on the street. MotoGp is not the R&D department. It's about the ultimate racing on the best bikes money can buy.

Theo · Mar 30, 2019

Keshav said:
I don't see how what we have on street bikes matters all that much. We don't see one tenth of the exotic technology from GP bikes on what we ride on the street. MotoGp is not the R&D department. It's about the ultimate racing on the best bikes money can buy.

So why for many years do they brag that things we see in racing improve life for street riders, strikes me its like all the bloody politicians in the world swearing blind they don't mislead the public, we all know its lies.

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