Race One 2019 - Losail Raceway - Doha, Qatar
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Had a shocker last year. Cracked two ribs in march. Got better, then broke my collarbone in August. Worst was I didn't get any treatment, and now my right side collarbone has grown a lump, it limits movement big time and sometimes the simplest motions like reaching to shake a hand can sometimes send shooting pain. Planning sometime end of this year after peak season to attend hospital and have it rebroken and set correctly. Don't want to live The rest of my life with my shoulder as it is.
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Back to the race.
I'm rewatching it again.
Quartararo startes from pit lane, commentators said on lap one it cost him 10.6 seconds.
He finished 15.9 seconds off of dovi's time.
Minus the 10.6 his finish time "theoretically" would have been 5.3 seconds off, behind Mir who finished 8th, 5.0 seconds off Dovi.
I know, if Quartararo started on the grid everything could have been way different. Just putting it out there.
I'm rewatching it again.
Quartararo startes from pit lane, commentators said on lap one it cost him 10.6 seconds.
He finished 15.9 seconds off of dovi's time.
Minus the 10.6 his finish time "theoretically" would have been 5.3 seconds off, behind Mir who finished 8th, 5.0 seconds off Dovi.
I know, if Quartararo started on the grid everything could have been way different. Just putting it out there.
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Yep - collar bone is weird in that it can seem to be healed and then . . . every once in a while, for no apparent reason, you get like a electric shock there. Even years afterwards.
Broke my shoulder avoiding a car that made a turn without signaling last August. Decided to avoid surgery and now regretting it. I can ride all right but I have limited range of motion, but will wait until riding season is over this year and then have the surgery to fix the ripped out bicep. Getting a little old for this .....
Tho - I was at a flat track race last summer and a friend who was racing asked me if I wanted to take out one of his bikes in the "Senior Event". I said I was too old for that .... and he took me over to see this guy who was at the entrance to the track. Had to be 75 and his son was next to him holding his oxygen tank while he took air through the mask, then ripped it off when the officials signaled everybody onto the starting grid. The old guy kicked ...!
He definitely destroyed his tyres running those 55s at the start of the race.
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Yes he did. Kinda firms my hypothesis. Quartararo is the real deal. He'll outdo Bagnaia.
My shout for rookie of the year is Mir. That is if he can peg it back a bit. He looked fast but very ragged in practice and quali. Simon Crafar said he was having a hard time watching him chuck it in hard when the bike wasn't totally settled. I fear hes in for a BIG corner entry high side if he keeps that up.
I can’t remember if I’ve had this mandatory whinge yet but I ....... hate the artificial closeness the tyres provide sometimes. Watching Dovi (and maybe Marquez) slow the pace so they had tyres for the last few laps is ....... boring. Give them good tyres so the riders can actually push for a larger part of the race. All this finished so close to the leader stuff is ........ when the leader is lapping a second or so slower than he’s capable of nearly all race because otherwise the tyres won’t last.
Ugh thank you and I totally agree!!
Dovi backs up the pack and drives what, 2 seconds off the pace? It's SOOO dull!! And then all hell breaks loose in the last few laps. Not even the last 5 laps any more.
Can we not either have tyres that last a whole race, or races that are only half as long?
This is going to turn MotoGP into F1 where they all follow each other and complain they can't pass. In fact, I thought about F1 as I watched the line of bikes stream round in single file, lap after lap.
Although I agree in principle, I still wake up in cold sweats remembering the 800 era. Ideally the tyre should allow for 5 or 6 laps of outright mayhem. Just 2 laps currently does seem artificial but the alternative was an awful show. Plus I'd argue the right winner usually crosses the line first so it can't all be bad.
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I'm with you on this. This crap tire & stone age ECU is completely daft in my opinion. This is prototype racing, set limitation on the amount each factory can spend per year. That way the factory teams are not running away from the satellite teams. Heck, I would even suggest for the use of their own preparatory ECU/software. Each factory team must support their satellite teams up to 75% operating cost. The racing would remain close but without the ........ of rider slowing the pace down. Innovation in the engine, electronics and other aspect of the machine would continue thru out each season. But it would be control due the annual cap & operating cost to the satellite teams.
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That's a nice idea - but impossible to enforce. There's just too many ways to hide spending. Moreover - smaller or newer teams would continually be at the back of the progress parade because the big guys have greater experience and resources.
Look at how many years and how much money Ducati has invested and still only one championship to their name - and that was really the doing of a freak talent. Personally - I would love to see Suzuki, KTM and Aprilia catch up with Honda and Ducati. And BTW - look at how badly Yamaha is falling behind - despite decades of experience. Wouldn't you (or anyone) want to see 4 or 5 companies with equal (more or less) chances to be competitive? It wouldn't kill the sport to let the tire guys catch up too. There's be less crashing and fewer top talents limping around all busted up. Some people think prototype should be all or nothing - but there needs to be compromise - for so many reasons.
I love the idea of a tire that doesn't have to be conserved for the last few laps - but also wonder really how much that would impact the show. Folks assume that w better tires the riders would be slicing and dicing throughout the race - but that's a big assumption. The wait-till-the-end-of-the-race-and-pull-the-pin strategy, didn't just come into play recently. Even when bikes were running the best of the Bridgestone tires this happened.
Personally - I think prototyping for the sake of prototyping is over emphasized. The bikes are at a point already where they're making more power than is usable with current tire technology and lets face it - tire technology has got a low ceiling which engine tech can surpass any day with both hands tied behind it's back.
I'd like to see better broadcasting technology come along that'd be capable of truly expressing the power and nuance of MotoGp as experienced LIVE - where regardless of how jaded and blasé you are - it's never boring.
VR technology already exists, but as you say its the broadcasting and camera technology that needs to catch up now. I'd say we are a good few years away from that being the main stream.
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MotoGP reads the opposite.
I have never been a fan of MV. I always thought he was over-rated. Maybe he matches his teammate. Yamaha may be toasted.
Geebuz, this guy is tough. I don't think I have ever had cracked ribs that healed that fast.
Catch 22. If the tires would last all race, then they will probably be going more than a second a lap slower, anyway. I am not sure how much DORNA has influenced the Michelin product.
This reflects my opinion. It's too NASCAR like. I want to see the best technology even if the winner runs away from the field. But most people seem to prefer closer racing, even if it is fake.
I am not sure what you consider "virtual reality", but it reminds me of a a kid at a track day at Laguna Seca. He was an experienced track rider and claimed he had Laguna wired because he had played "MotoGP Laguna Seca" for days and days. I passed him on the second lap by about 20mph, and he crashed on the third lap. His virtual reality became very real in double quick time.
As in you plonk down in an armchair and stick the VR headset on. Next thing you know its transported you trackside. It would go from corner to corner with the perfect vantage point. And the bikes would feel close enough to touch. That's where the technology is heading in my opinion.
The BBC tried something similar during the world cup that gave you a plum seat in the stands. It was crap though, much better on zitelli!
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I look forward to this very much. What a fantastic way to view the race. I would pay for that experience.
Dalligna threating protest against Honda in next races because of possible movable wings that confers more speed in straight and it's prohibited.
https://www.gpone.com/it/2019/03/15...ducati-accusa-honda-la-vostra-ala-stalla.html
"I was quite surprised, especially by the behavior of Honda, who are not only a protagonist of the World Cup, but also among the founding fathers of modern MotoGP, along with Ducati and Yamaha. So far, we have clarified all technical discussions within the manufacturers' association MSMA or in discussion with the Technical Director. We have always found an answer to all the questions the manufacturers have gradually introduced. The fact that Honda doubts the decision of the Technical Director, asks us whether we are protesting against them: The wings of the Honda are dangerous in our view. And not only that, their construction with a very thin base could cause them to be deformed by the forces acting on them and perhaps be movable attachments. "That would be prohibited by the regulations.
"We never considered launching a protest, but if someone, especially Honda, questions Technical Director Danny Aldridge's approach, it puts us in a position to think about a possible protest at the next race," added the Ducati Corse General Manager.
The danger is that there will soon be protests every race weekend, warned Dall'Igna. "Because this situation completely overrides what was the rules of the MotoGP World Championship from its beginnings to today."
The Ducati Racing Director and Aerodynamic Fox is still convinced that his latest development at the Desmosedici GP19 complies with the regulations. That's another reason why the Italian manufacturer was not impressed by the competition.
"That's something that surprised us. First and foremost, the way our competitors prevent us from doing our job - to try to counter Honda and Márquez. This seems to us absolutely unjust and totally unsportsmanlike », the Italian finds clear words for the behavior of the opposing manufacturers. "It is a turnabout that I would call epochal, even more epochal than the change from two- to four-stroke."
Dall'Igna: "I hope that this protest is only an episode that leads to a comprehensive consideration of all sides - and does something good for the sport. Behaviors like Doha harm sports, they take credibility from the World Association and the World Cup. That's bad for all the people who live and believe in this sport, who enjoy watching television, whenever Dovizioso does something as beautiful as Doha. "
- Mehr bei SPEEDWEEK: http://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/140373/DallIgna-(Ducati)-Protest-gegen-Honda-moeglich.html
https://www.gpone.com/it/2019/03/15...ducati-accusa-honda-la-vostra-ala-stalla.html
"I was quite surprised, especially by the behavior of Honda, who are not only a protagonist of the World Cup, but also among the founding fathers of modern MotoGP, along with Ducati and Yamaha. So far, we have clarified all technical discussions within the manufacturers' association MSMA or in discussion with the Technical Director. We have always found an answer to all the questions the manufacturers have gradually introduced. The fact that Honda doubts the decision of the Technical Director, asks us whether we are protesting against them: The wings of the Honda are dangerous in our view. And not only that, their construction with a very thin base could cause them to be deformed by the forces acting on them and perhaps be movable attachments. "That would be prohibited by the regulations.
"We never considered launching a protest, but if someone, especially Honda, questions Technical Director Danny Aldridge's approach, it puts us in a position to think about a possible protest at the next race," added the Ducati Corse General Manager.
The danger is that there will soon be protests every race weekend, warned Dall'Igna. "Because this situation completely overrides what was the rules of the MotoGP World Championship from its beginnings to today."
The Ducati Racing Director and Aerodynamic Fox is still convinced that his latest development at the Desmosedici GP19 complies with the regulations. That's another reason why the Italian manufacturer was not impressed by the competition.
"That's something that surprised us. First and foremost, the way our competitors prevent us from doing our job - to try to counter Honda and Márquez. This seems to us absolutely unjust and totally unsportsmanlike », the Italian finds clear words for the behavior of the opposing manufacturers. "It is a turnabout that I would call epochal, even more epochal than the change from two- to four-stroke."
Dall'Igna: "I hope that this protest is only an episode that leads to a comprehensive consideration of all sides - and does something good for the sport. Behaviors like Doha harm sports, they take credibility from the World Association and the World Cup. That's bad for all the people who live and believe in this sport, who enjoy watching television, whenever Dovizioso does something as beautiful as Doha. "
- Mehr bei SPEEDWEEK: http://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/140373/DallIgna-(Ducati)-Protest-gegen-Honda-moeglich.html
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From the same on-line magazine: Suzuki, Aprilia, et al protest Ducati wing
In a nutshell: The other teams did not like the appendage before the race. They didn't like Danny Aldrige's take on it. The teams went to Ducati BEFORE the race and said they would protest, if Ducati used it, because even if Danny said okay, it went against the agreement the teams made about aerodynamics last year.
In a nutshell: The other teams did not like the appendage before the race. They didn't like Danny Aldrige's take on it. The teams went to Ducati BEFORE the race and said they would protest, if Ducati used it, because even if Danny said okay, it went against the agreement the teams made about aerodynamics last year.
So we have decended into all out war...
I'm with Ducati on this IF they do indeed have data to support their solution. I also think that the Japanese are in for a shock if they think the Italians will roll over without a fight.
Again with the "spirit of the rules" ......... Any agreement the manufacturers have has been written into the regulations. Anything outside of, but not in contravention of the regulations is legal. The other manufacturers just don't want to begin development in an area of the sport they aren't well versed in. There is a reason the other bikes share fundamental commonality - it is the Japanese approach. The Italians can only compete with that level of evolutionary refinement by making large revolutionary steps and the Japanese factories don't like being shown up for having a decidedly traditionalist philosophy to machine design.
I'm with Ducati on this IF they do indeed have data to support their solution. I also think that the Japanese are in for a shock if they think the Italians will roll over without a fight.
Again with the "spirit of the rules" ......... Any agreement the manufacturers have has been written into the regulations. Anything outside of, but not in contravention of the regulations is legal. The other manufacturers just don't want to begin development in an area of the sport they aren't well versed in. There is a reason the other bikes share fundamental commonality - it is the Japanese approach. The Italians can only compete with that level of evolutionary refinement by making large revolutionary steps and the Japanese factories don't like being shown up for having a decidedly traditionalist philosophy to machine design.
