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MigsAngel
Ah, but which Triumph?
My money's on the Scrambler. I really want one of those.
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BTW - Jesus would ride a Triumph....
Ah, but which Triumph?
My money's on the Scrambler. I really want one of those.
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somewhere else
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The North!
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lil red rocket pilot
You've got me covered so far. I need Bautista to crash out and Dovi to keep beating Hayden, and the ART. As for next years wager? Have to wait and see.
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I feel another bet coming on :lol:
You've got me covered so far. I need Bautista to crash out and Dovi to keep beating Hayden, and the ART. As for next years wager? Have to wait and see.
MigsAngel
Yes, the contract held by Ducati states that Ben will ride where they say so, if he refuses, the contract is void, this is a smart move by Ducati.
Yes, the contract held by Ducati states that Ben will ride where they say so, if he refuses, the contract is void, this is a smart move by Ducati.
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thedeal
Maybe it's a smart move for both. Ben seems jinxed in MotoGP, maybe a return to Superbikes is just what he needs to get his career back on track.
Maybe it's a smart move for both. Ben seems jinxed in MotoGP, maybe a return to Superbikes is just what he needs to get his career back on track.
MigsAngel
Dovi > Cal in my opinion but next year we'll be able to put to rest this debate without argument. The numbers will tell the story, no commentary needed.
As for Cal looking anything like Casey, come on....If Casey and Cal were on the same team right now, would Cal be anywhere near him? No F-ing way. The only career numbers the two will share when it's all over is DNF's. The problem for Cal is that when Casey wasn't crashing, he was winning. Cal will not replicate that performance on any machine.
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Cause Cal is more aggresive than Dovi and perhaps Duc see a bit of Casey in him....and Cal was the only guy in top 6 out there still willing to take the chance on the Ducati.....
BTW - Jesus would ride a Triumph....
Dovi > Cal in my opinion but next year we'll be able to put to rest this debate without argument. The numbers will tell the story, no commentary needed.
As for Cal looking anything like Casey, come on....If Casey and Cal were on the same team right now, would Cal be anywhere near him? No F-ing way. The only career numbers the two will share when it's all over is DNF's. The problem for Cal is that when Casey wasn't crashing, he was winning. Cal will not replicate that performance on any machine.
MigsAngel
Frankly, this would be good for both parties. Ben may not like it, but it'd be the right move for him to make.
Frankly, this would be good for both parties. Ben may not like it, but it'd be the right move for him to make.
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levigarrett
This.
Cal has the aggression, but not the talent. He's shown he has no problem with throwing away multiple bikes in a weekend, but a willingness to crash doesn't automatically translate to wins.
This.
Cal has the aggression, but not the talent. He's shown he has no problem with throwing away multiple bikes in a weekend, but a willingness to crash doesn't automatically translate to wins.
rezonator636
What aggression? The watching AB,VR,SB show all race long aggression? Cal is fast, but has real issues with passing. I like Cal but the last two seasons (nevermind his rookie season) where he has had the speed he has not shown that killer instinct in the passing dept.
As for next year, I think he'll be faster than Dovi as Dovi's spirit is clearly broken and it will take a few months for Cal's to break giving Cal a head start on points.
Cal=/=Dovi
Cal a little faster, Dovi better on the brakes. Evens out.
What aggression? The watching AB,VR,SB show all race long aggression? Cal is fast, but has real issues with passing. I like Cal but the last two seasons (nevermind his rookie season) where he has had the speed he has not shown that killer instinct in the passing dept.
As for next year, I think he'll be faster than Dovi as Dovi's spirit is clearly broken and it will take a few months for Cal's to break giving Cal a head start on points.
Cal=/=Dovi
Cal a little faster, Dovi better on the brakes. Evens out.
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Norah Head
MigsAngel
Was Jesus Taiwanese too?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
And for those calling Stoner Jesus ..... get real .........
Stoner is god!!!
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BTW - Jesus would ride a Triumph....
Was Jesus Taiwanese too?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
And for those calling Stoner Jesus ..... get real .........
Stoner is god!!!
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bluegreen
I'll admit, that was lame.
Cal is aggressive when it comes to pushing the bike. Pushing the other riders, not so much. It wasn't so long ago (Silverstone, in fact) when he catapulted two M1s into the gravel trying to put up a fast lap time. He's shown he's more than willing to ride on the edge, trying to get everything he can out of the bike.
Problem is, being willing to crash is not the same thing as being fast. Stoner rode on the ragged edge, just like Marquez is doing now, but they've got the talent to do it. From what I see, Crutchlow doesn't.
I'll admit, that was lame.
Cal is aggressive when it comes to pushing the bike. Pushing the other riders, not so much. It wasn't so long ago (Silverstone, in fact) when he catapulted two M1s into the gravel trying to put up a fast lap time. He's shown he's more than willing to ride on the edge, trying to get everything he can out of the bike.
Problem is, being willing to crash is not the same thing as being fast. Stoner rode on the ragged edge, just like Marquez is doing now, but they've got the talent to do it. From what I see, Crutchlow doesn't.
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Woody Creek
MigsAngel
I think that's a very reasonable assessment of the mood within Ducati. All I would say to that is when you consider the list of talented guys Ducati have brought in and had little (being generous here) to no success—Melandri, Hayden, Rossi, Dovizioso—what makes them think Crutchlow is going to be the magic bullet? Obviously things have become stagnant there, and when that happens, change is a necessity. All I'm saying is that the problem in this equation is not the rider, and if Ducati expect anyone to rock up and instantly go quick, things are worse there than I realized. (And, for the record, I've been championing for Nicky's departure to World Supers for at least three years now.)
MigsAngel
I thought Laverty to Aspar was just about a done deal, wasn't it?
I think that's a very reasonable assessment of the mood within Ducati. All I would say to that is when you consider the list of talented guys Ducati have brought in and had little (being generous here) to no success—Melandri, Hayden, Rossi, Dovizioso—what makes them think Crutchlow is going to be the magic bullet? Obviously things have become stagnant there, and when that happens, change is a necessity. All I'm saying is that the problem in this equation is not the rider, and if Ducati expect anyone to rock up and instantly go quick, things are worse there than I realized. (And, for the record, I've been championing for Nicky's departure to World Supers for at least three years now.)
MigsAngel
I thought Laverty to Aspar was just about a done deal, wasn't it?
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Austin
That's what has me baffled. Dovi was the better rider last year, and he's accomplished precisely nothing on the Duc. It's not as if Cal has made some kind of quantum leap in his riding this year that would make anyone think he's the second coming of Stoner (who would be only rider who could make a difference at Ducati at this point).
That's what has me baffled. Dovi was the better rider last year, and he's accomplished precisely nothing on the Duc. It's not as if Cal has made some kind of quantum leap in his riding this year that would make anyone think he's the second coming of Stoner (who would be only rider who could make a difference at Ducati at this point).
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