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Matt Roberts says: Hayden to Aspar, Espargaro to NGM

J4rn0
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Aprilia is not giving Dall'Igna the budget he has requested to build a competitive MotoGP bike. He however wants to be in MotoGP, and the Ducati offer is still on his desk. If he chooses to go to Borgo Panigale, Aspar could decide to follow him. So Nicky Hayden (who has already signed a contract with Aspar) could end up on a Ducati again!  


 


I thought he had a contract directly with Aprilia? 
 
I don't know for sure but I doubt it, his contract should be with Jorge Martinez. If Martinez switches from Aprilia to Honda (another possibility) or to Ducati, all the riders under contract with him would follow. Of course each rider has clauses that we cannot know, but mainly riders are worried about getting a competitive bike. Ducati with Dall'Igna and adequate budget would be up to top five speed in one year imo. Note that without guarantees about the budget, Dall'Igna is not likely to move.
 
J4rn0
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I don't know for sure but I doubt it, his contract should be with Jorge Martinez. If Martinez switches from Aprilia to Honda (another possibility) or to Ducati, all the riders under contract with him would follow. Of course each rider has clauses that we cannot know, but mainly riders are worried about getting a competitive bike. Ducati with Dall'Igna and adequate budget would be up to top five speed in one year imo. Note that without guarantees about the budget, Dall'Igna is not likely to move.


Sure, if he can make an Aprilia beat most Ducatis, with an exponentially larger budget he can fairly likely make some or even most Ducatis faster. It would seem rather likely he could give them a leg up in terms of designing aluminium space frame chassis , in which Aprilia might be Suter's superior, and possibly in more compact V4/L4 engine design.
 
la-pirata
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" in which Aprilia might be suters superior"   can you elaborate on that statement please.


Ducati are currently basically running a chassis of at least Suter manufacture. Aprilia seem to be able to make their own chassis with some success, including in the junior classes in gp bike racing for rather a few years as well as WSBK. If Dall' Igna has been their long term chief engineer, it is possible he may have some expertise  which he could transfer to Ducati.
 
michaelm
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Ducati are currently basically running a chassis of at least Suter manufacture. Aprilia seem to be able to make their own chassis with some success, including in the junior classes in gp bike racing for rather a few years as well as WSBK. If Dall' Igna has been their long term chief engineer, it is possible he may have some expertise  which he could transfer to Ducati.


That's what I thought you were going to say, Aprilia have been winning world titles for decades with their own products, Suter is spec on the landscape by comparison. The only way for Ducati to evolve is to bring in someone of Gigi's stature.
 
Aspar has chosen the Honda PR, so Nicky Hayden will be back on a Honda in 2014.
 
So how many races will the new Spec Honda Racer win?  You would have to believe that it should at least be beating the Sat M1's and maybe the Duc's at least til they get the new Gigi Desmo.  I hope Hayden does well, but I can't believe he actually thinks he is going to be beating factory machines on a Sat bike.  If Yamaha doesn't get their bike more power and Ducati gets it right for next year, the Yamaha could be the bike at the back of the pack very soon. 
 
The production racers will be very competitive because of two factors


more fuel and more engines


 


Fuel management will not be an issue, it is anticipated that the production racer might even be faster in the straights ( a yamaha tech told me), and with 12 engines, they can crank the .... out of them to the limit as close to internal destruction without worrying about lack of engines for the season.
 
ROCKGOD01
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So how many races will the new Spec Honda Racer win?  You would have to believe that it should at least be beating the Sat M1's and maybe the Duc's at least til they get the new Gigi Desmo.  I hope Hayden does well, but I can't believe he actually thinks he is going to be beating factory machines on a Sat bike.  If Yamaha doesn't get their bike more power and Ducati gets it right for next year, the Yamaha could be the bike at the back of the pack very soon. 


ROCK....add this as well.....20 liters of fuel next year! 
 
ROCKGOD01
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So how many races will the new Spec Honda Racer win?  You would have to believe that it should at least be beating the Sat M1's and maybe the Duc's at least til they get the new Gigi Desmo.  I hope Hayden does well, but I can't believe he actually thinks he is going to be beating factory machines on a Sat bike.  If Yamaha doesn't get their bike more power and Ducati gets it right for next year, the Yamaha could be the bike at the back of the pack very soon. 


 


None. And I can't imagine it'll worry Yamaha much, either. From what I've read—through the educated in here and Kropotkin, I believe—the RCV1000R will be a half-second off the RC213V, which has usually been a comfortable-enough margin to encapsulate the gap to Crutchlow. With Bradley being the senior rider in the Tech 3 team next year, it's quite conceivable that Hayden will better him sporadically/frequently/more often than not, but once Espargaro comes to terms with the big bike, order will be restored. Yamaha shouldn't be any more worried than they already are about such an inexperienced rider leading their satellite squad.
 
Honda wanted Hayden back on a Honda, and made a special effort with Martinez also because of that. 
 
anyone else think this could be a bigger picture lets say if hayden does very well on this bike and starts beating the sat riders will honda turn around and give a sat bike to hayden or maybe honda wants all other bikes except for repsol on a production bike?
 
Austin
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None. And I can't imagine it'll worry Yamaha much, either. From what I've read—through the educated in here and Kropotkin, I believe—the RCV1000R will be a half-second off the RC213V, which has usually been a comfortable-enough margin to encapsulate the gap to Crutchlow. With Bradley being the senior rider in the Tech 3 team next year, it's quite conceivable that Hayden will better him sporadically/frequently/more often than not, but once Espargaro comes to terms with the big bike, order will be restored. Yamaha shouldn't be any more worried than they already are about such an inexperienced rider leading their satellite squad.


 


Smith's hardly inexperienced - he's been Tech3's test mule for 3 years now and is only just behind Nicky in the GP standings. I think he's doing pretty well for a motoGP rookie. MM apart, he is about where the likes of Bradl (lead rider), Bautista (lead rider), were in their rookie seasons. From what has been said by Poncheral and co, Smith gives good feedback and is a trojan in the workhorse department.
 

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