Hayden

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 1 2007, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>roger have u been drinking?


If not why not?

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 1 2007, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>give them chance jumkie.
just a thought.wonder how many "what if's" would have been in your posts had thing turned out differently.
Yeah you're right, “if” Pedrosa not smash into Hayden, I would have been saying Hayden would have come out of Portugal with the points lead. (Likely, but not guaranteed I guess). I’m glad it all worked out for Hayden in the end and the title “fell on his lap”.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 1 2007, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>roger have u been drinking?
yeah as a matter of fact i have had a couple does it show ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 1 2007, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah as a matter of fact i have had a couple does it show ?
just a little.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah you're right, “if” Pedrosa not smash into Hayden, I would have been saying Hayden would have come out of Portugal with the points lead. (Likely, but not guaranteed I guess). I’m glad it all worked out for Hayden in the end and the title “fell on his lap”.

i agree that what if's are a bit silly but it's the what ifs that give us stuff to debate in the off season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah you're right, “if” Pedrosa not smash into Hayden, I would have been saying Hayden would have come out of Portugal with the points lead. (Likely, but not guaranteed I guess). I’m glad it all worked out for Hayden in the end and the title “fell on his lap”.



Have to disagree, he no Scottish, so he's crap.

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 1 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he no Scottish, so he's crap.
You sound more like Nakano here than a Scottish guy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You sound more like Nakano here than a Scottish guy

I keep telling you jumkie, crystal meth is bad........

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 1 2007, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I keep telling you jumkie, crystal meth is bad........

Pete
I believe the line you were looking for is: "If it's not Scottish, it's crap!".

Focus buddy, you can do it. (Maybe I should cut you alittle slack, after-all you may still be feeling the ill effects of that "..." doing a Pedrosa into you.)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's a new one. Hadn't heard this level of mindless cheerleading before. So titles fall on the winners "lap" now? Interesting. I'm sure you will get alot of support for this characterization of championships. I'm sure you won't get any flack from fair minded other fans of the sport who also happen to be Rossi fans. I wonder why the title decided to fall on the "lap" of Hayden and not "fall on the lap" of some other rider? Since titles are falling on "laps" now, perhaps their is hope for the back markers yet.
So sorry for being mindless. Nothing will change the fact that Hayden is the World Champ.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah you're right, “if” Pedrosa not smash into Hayden, I would have been saying Hayden would have come out of Portugal with the points lead. (Likely, but not guaranteed I guess). I’m glad it all worked out for Hayden in the end and the title “fell on his lap”.


Ok, lets reword my past statement..... After Rossi fell, the title was 100% his(Hayden) because no other challenger(for the title) was close(in the title race during the last race). Guess it doesnt really matter anyway cause Im a mindless cheerleader for Rossi.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale46fan @ Feb 1 2007, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So sorry for being mindless. Nothing will change the fact that Hayden is the World Champ.
Ok, lets reword my past statement..... After Rossi fell, the title was 100% his because no other challenger(for the title) was close(in the last race). Guess it doesnt really matter anyway cause Im a mindless cheerleader for Rossi.
It's all good man, don't take it to heart. When I say something that can be seen as cheering for Hayden, sometimes people take their shots too; I was just doing the same to you. I don't mean to be mean. But then again, I do get a kick out of the apologists explaining for Rossi not winning; when I'd prefer to see them talk about what Hayden did right to be in a position all season long to win the world title. I have much respect for Rossi the racer, it may no come off like that because I spend so much time dealing with many of his fans that simply refuse to accept that the guy lost, was beaten, period. They come up with every which way to explain the ordeal. So when a fan belittles the title in such a way, I don't think you are only taking a disrespectful shot at Hayden, but also the “championship” itself. In other words, when saying "titles fall on laps" man that sure seems like all those "titles" Rossi and others earned are open to question in the most simplistic and denigrating way. Wouldn't you agree? A case about all manner of things can be pointed to in regards to how a rider wins a title, should I point to the first three championships of Rossi and say” well they fell on his lap because Honda, the superior machine, put them there? Certainly that case could be debated. But really, it would be rather unseemly.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's all good man, don't take it to heart. When I say something that can be seen as cheering for Hayden, sometimes people take their shots too; I was just doing the same to you. I don't mean to be mean. But then again, I do get a kick out of the apologists explaining for Rossi not winning; when I'd prefer to see them talk about what Hayden did right to be in a position all season long to win the world title. I have much respect for Rossi the racer, it may no come off like that because I spend so much time dealing with many of his fans that simply refuse to accept that the guy lost, was beaten, period. They come up with every which way to explain the ordeal. So when a fan belittles the title in such a way, I don't think you are only taking a disrespectful shot at Hayden, but also the “championship” itself. In other words, when saying "titles fall on laps" man that sure seems like all those "titles" Rossi and others earned are open to question in the most simplistic and denigrating way. Wouldn't you agree? A case about all manner of things can be pointed to in regards to how a rider wins a title, should I point to the first three championships of Rossi and say” well they fell on his lap because Honda, the superior machine, put them there? Certainly that case could be debated. But really, it would be rather unseemly.
Nowhere did nor I have said that Hayden sucks(might have thought it, since he did beat Rossi), but I didn't mean to come across as belittling the " The World Championship" or Hayden. Hayden busted his ... all season "its about time, IMO", and proved that Honda was still a damn good machine and he was a damn good rider. And honestly, "IF" Padrosa wouldn't have took him out it still would have turnd out the same. I shouldnt have said it "fell in his lap". When I did type that I was thinking of the last race and the battle he had going w/ Rossi was over before the end of the race. I keep sticking my foot in my mouth.

And in the same Rossi battled back to put up a huge fight near the end of the season. I DO NOT HATE HAYDEN!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale46fan @ Feb 1 2007, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I shouldnt have said it "fell in his lap".
Wow, I think I just made friends with a Rossi fan. Cool. It's all good. If Rossi win this year, I will be the first Hayden fan to give him his props.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 1 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No doubt Edwards is good, and one of the most likable out there, but we have been hoping for ages now. And i am loosing faith, his results have remained the same for 3 years. If he doesn't get a few noticable podiums this year he'll probably be joining max biaggi.

Eduards’ been 4 years now at MotoGP, remember ’03 Aprilia’s ‘The Human Torch’, I am glad he came out all right, and then it was funny!

However, you are right “his results have remained the same for 3 years”, the last 3 years.

’03 – 13th with Alice Aprilia Racing
’04 – 5th with Telefonica Movistar Honda
’05 – 4th with Gauloises Yamaha Team
’06 – 7th with Camel Yamaha Team

’07 – don’t know!

4th and 5th places ain't bad for an old bloke

Hey, I know Edwards isn't the fastest guy on the track, but he's not the slowest, either. Not by a mile. Some poeple think a better rider should have his ride. I question the worth of a Yamaha ride. I think they've been glossed up by Rossi's achivements. Unless you get a rider with a similar style to Rossi, a factory Yamaha might not be the great ride its worked up to be. Also, there's the theory that Edwards isn't getting anywhere near the support he's entitled to, Remember all these one-offs you see like Laguna Seca '05 (A rider with track experience was needed), Assen '06 (When Rossi had practically no chance of winning) and Estoril '06 (When Rossi needed someone to watch his back and hold off the Hondas). I've said it before and I'll say it again, Edwards is fast when Yamaha remember there's two riders in thier factory team.

I feel like the second yamaha seat should be occupied by a young rider hwo can gain experience from Rossi and be in a position to challenge when he leaves. What does yamaha think it wil d after Rossi, another decade waiting for a great rider to come along.....thats not good enough, they need someone for the future now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 2 2007, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I feel like the second yamaha seat should be occupied by a young rider hwo can gain experience from Rossi and be in a position to challenge when he leaves. What does yamaha think it wil d after Rossi, another decade waiting for a great rider to come along.....thats not good enough, they need someone for the future now.
thats a very good point tom. wonder if or who they have there eye on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 2 2007, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats a very good point tom. wonder if or who they have there eye on.

Lorenzo

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 2 2007, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo
marco simoncelli, i no rossi is a fan of his.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 2 2007, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>marco simoncelli, i no rossi is a fan of his.

I don't think Rossi picks the riders himself. And Simoncelli isn't fast enough, there are many better options in 250.