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Terrible opinion. 0 out of 5 stars. Your ability to debate has been revoked.
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Terrible opinion. 0 out of 5 stars. Your ability to debate has been revoked.
Yes, yes, you can hear him on the footage pressing down on the accelerator pedal.
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I'm not into conspiracy theories. I can see how the accident happened, but to go much further would require mind-reading, which I don't believe in either.
Personally I note the decision mentioned the lack off grip off-line. I think that instead of other situations where the rider on the outside may try to brazen it out around the outside while the rider being overtaken may try to hold the inside line, that both of them went for the racing line. And, crashed.
Personally I note the decision mentioned the lack off grip off-line. I think that instead of other situations where the rider on the outside may try to brazen it out around the outside while the rider being overtaken may try to hold the inside line, that both of them went for the racing line. And, crashed.
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Same thing to police said when retrieving Pecco's car from the ditch.
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It was something of a miracle that he didn't break anything. That was really brutal.
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Amigo - Stick to something light, like a nice refreshing caipirinha and leave the ayahuasca to the big boys.
Interesting logic. The one case where another rider very definitely aimed his bike at anotge
I think the better base set up is a thing. Seems to have transferred to Alex as well, who was faster than the other GP23 riders.
M Marquez winning a race
Ferrari winning a race
I might have to break out the Nokia 3310 to complete the nostalgia experience.
Ferrari winning a race
I might have to break out the Nokia 3310 to complete the nostalgia experience.
The status of the rider seems to be influential in these circumstances. With the Simoncelli/Pedrosa thing in 2011 Simoncelli the outside rider was penalised, and I thought at the time that Pedrosa was the one who had attempted but not completed a pass on Simoncelli, although most disagreed with me, and also hit a bump which altered his progress.
Simon Crafar knows what it is not to be a favoured rider and seems to be a fair man, so we might get something less biased against the non halo riders, not that I disagree with the ruling about this incident, track conditions were likely influential as RD said, and might have led to Alex going a little off line rather than a riding error.
Simon Crafar knows what it is not to be a favoured rider and seems to be a fair man, so we might get something less biased against the non halo riders, not that I disagree with the ruling about this incident, track conditions were likely influential as RD said, and might have led to Alex going a little off line rather than a riding error.
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If you want to make it team Valentino/Pecco and Valentino against the Marquez brothers as seems to be the desire of both you and Rossi himself, we do have a clear incident of a rider aiming his bike at a Marquez and it was Valentino at Sepang 2015 rather than the recent Aragon race.
It is also by my count at worst 2:1 Marquez bros vs Bagnaia this season even if you do allocate the blame for this incident entirely to AM, certainly MM was in no way at fault at Portimao and pulled out of a legitimate pass on Bagnaia at another race (? Jerez) to avoid collision. If anything Bagnaia is the one who seems to have decided with encouragement from Valentino on the sidelines that he will not accept being passed by a Marquez, although MM has been the rider concerned.
As someone said pre-race if MM and Bagnaia are in a battle for the title which presumably can’t happen until next year I could see Valentino’s involvement and certainly his charging up of Bagnaia in regard to MM counting against him. MM is provably immune to off track antics from Valentino, and if he is semi miraculously in contention for another title I can see him riding quite circumspectly as he has done to win titles previously, with any sideline involvement from Valentino likely to have no effect on MM other than increasing his motivation while increasing the likelihood of boneheaded moves by Bagnaia, to which he is somewhat prone.
And again, the Valentino vendetta against MM has no basis in fact, Valentino lost the 2015 title, it wasn’t stolen from him by MM or anyone else.
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Selective memory.
Marc Marquez has never waited until the last lap. Marc has overtaken riders on the last lap on numerous occasions.
There is a subtle difference there.
All World Champions are aggressive riders.
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Francesco Bagnaia: Alex Marquez “tried to make contact, impossible he didn’t see me”
Francesco Bagnaia claims Alex Marquez “was trying to arrive to this contact” in Aragon MotoGP clash.
Pecco is such an ........ He lives in his own alternate reality in which he is always a victim. All of this is total made up .........
Another story from this weekend is the extra seconds added to multiple riders due to tyre pressures.
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Agressive is one thing. Impossible maneuvers are another. Most world champions have excellent ability to make fast decisions that and make moves stick. Sometimes they are right sometimes they are wrong. But Pecco makes these impossible moves often. Not only that he starts a politician type smear campaign after each of these moves. Except responsibility and move one. I don't think we will ever see Pecco admit a mistake.
Pecco does seem to make more mistakes when the stakes are high.
Taking responsibility, now that is something I'm not used to from the champs.
For the championship, this result was perfect.
Taking responsibility, now that is something I'm not used to from the champs.
For the championship, this result was perfect.
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I consider him a good to great rider, and the master thus far of the current paradigm,
I do think you have a point about him accepting responsibility, if he makes an aggressive which comes unstuck it is always the fault of the other rider. I guess MM was angling for a GP25 ride next year, but he didn’t complain like this after Portimao where Pecco was far more at fault than AM in this incident. I don’t think AM even made a riding error, his bike hopped a couple of times probably due to track conditions, and track conditions were what the stewards eventually blamed.
All it would take is a couple of spills by both Pecco and Jorge to have Marc in the hunt, I am not counting out MM yet.
MM has become a beast on the GP23, can only imagine what he'll accomplish if he quickly adapts to a GP25 next year.
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