Formula 1 07

Yeah whatever people say the driver still makes the difference in F1. Just car is important too. I don't see anyone outside the top 4 teams winning races this year either. In fact i think the race winners this year will be Massa, Raikonen, Alonso, Fisichella and Button. I can't see any others taking wins really. And its possible these guys wont all get a chance.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 1 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah whatever people say the driver still makes the difference in F1. Just car is important too. I don't see anyone outside the top 4 teams winning races this year either. In fact i think the race winners this year will be Massa, Raikonen, Alonso, Fisichella and Button. I can't see any others taking wins really. And its possible these guys wont all get a chance.
I think the driver will always make a difference, and obviously, that's the way it should be, but nowadays the drivers have less impact than they had, let's say, 20 years ago. It's a shame, but..it's the way it is I guess.

I also think both Ferrari drivers will have good chances of winning races this season, same goes for the champ. I'm not too sure about Fisi tbh, I just don't think he's that good anymore. I guess if Renault has a strong package we can't count him out, but either way, Fisi has to show his skills this season, if Heikki beats him (which will be hard, since he's a rookie) then it's definitely over for Fisi. About Jense..again, it depends on how his car will perform, I'm not too sure about Honda, but if he has the car, then he will have chances for sure.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 1 2007, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah whatever people say the driver still makes the difference in F1. Just car is important too.
Wasn't the same with Takuma Sato though. He was a relatively good driver for Honda, mostly scoring lowish points at every race, moves to Super Aguri and is just another Yuji Ide. He's learnt even more too and he's still not performing. So this is an example of the car, because we all know that Takuma is a relatively good driver, so this is also how you could sum up what a driver is going to be like when he switches to another team. All I say is good luck Anthony Hamilton!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Feb 2 2007, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wasn't the same with Takuma Sato though. He was a relatively good driver for Honda, mostly scoring lowish points at every race, moves to Super Aguri and is just another Yuji Ide. He's learnt even more too and he's still not performing. So this is an example of the car, because we all know that Takuma is a relatively good driver, so this is also how you could sum up what a driver is going to be like when he switches to another team. All I say is good luck Anthony Hamilton!
Anthony Hamilton??
Lewis, right??

About Sato..
He's a good driver imo, but he never really impressed me when he drove for BAR, he made a bit too many errors. Anyway, I think almost everyone would look ''bad'' in a Super Aguri.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Feb 2 2007, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anthony Hamilton!

Anthony Davidson??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 2 2007, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anthony Davidson??
Yeah, that indeed makes more sense, since he will be driving for Super Aguri this season..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 2 2007, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, that indeed makes more sense, since he will be driving for Super Aguri this season..
and Lewis Davidson. Yeah, I mucked them up.

Is there an official f1 test that all the teams attend??

It is soo impossible to read F1 testing, i don't think it gives many clues away. Alonso is looking good though, i expect him to continue winning.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 4 2007, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is there an official f1 test that all the teams attend??

It is soo impossible to read F1 testing, i don't think it gives many clues away. Alonso is looking good though, i expect him to continue winning.
Yeah, it indeed doesnt give too many clues away..
It's only testing, it's really hard to say who will be the strongest. I'm guessing Mclaren will be a title contender. They look strong so far, but I personally think Ferrari is stronger than it appears atm. If, McLaren will be on top, then I'm putting all my money on Fernando Alonso. I don't think it should matter whether he's new at Mclaren (same goes for Kimi) if he has a winning car, he will win races and maybe the title. No doubts about it!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 4 2007, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, it indeed doesnt give too many clues away..
It's only testing, it's really hard to say who will be the strongest. I'm guessing Mclaren will be a title contender. They look strong so far, but I personally think Ferrari is stronger than it appears atm. If, McLaren will be on top, then I'm putting all my money on Fernando Alonso. I don't think it should matter whether he's new at Mclaren (same goes for Kimi) if he has a winning car, he will win races and maybe the title. No doubts about it!
I agree about Alonso, but I don't think Kimi has the right attitude to make things work at Ferrari, he needs to change. He's filling Schumi's boots, who was a great leader and carried the team. I don't think Kimi has the commitment to do that. Somethings gonna have to give, either Ferrari or Kimi will have to change. It's potentially a great combination, but it might need a bit of time to get in full swing. Maybe I'm being biased, I used to like Kimi, but this last year hes just started to annoy me. He has the same problem that could affect guys like Lewis Hamilton, everyone is so far up his arse, telling him hes the best, that he becomes arrogant. In these situations the desire of the driver is questionable.

Just because a driver has a great car doesn't mean he will be succesful, he needs the right team with a good relationship as well as the right mental attitude. If you think all it takes to win at this level is a winning car, you're kidding yourself. Look at Fisi.

My tip for this year is Felipe Massa. He made so much progress last year I think he might be ready to take the next step up the ladder. I think he has the best chance at the title. I think Alonso will feature, but will just miss out on the title. I think Kimi might struggle for consistency this year, but will win a couple of races.

My other tip is Jenson Button, I think things will go one way or the other here. If Honda can put out a good, consistent, reliable car then I think he has a fantastic chance, maybe the best chance of his career. I've seen a change in his attitude this year, maybe he's realised that he has to fight for it, and that it won't be given to him.

My dark horse is Mark Webber in the Red Bull. I think the touch of Adrian Newey on the RB3 could just move Red Bull up the order. I think he could win a couple of races, and he will excel in qualifying. His race pace is the big unknown, we'll have to see if he can stay with the leaders. Whatever the case, I think he will outperform DC, by quite a long way.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Feb 6 2007, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree about Alonso, but I don't think Kimi has the right attitude to make things work at Ferrari, he needs to change. He's filling Schumi's boots, who was a great leader and carried the team. I don't think Kimi has the commitment to do that. Somethings gonna have to give, either Ferrari or Kimi will have to change. It's potentially a great combination, but it might need a bit of time to get in full swing. Maybe I'm being biased, I used to like Kimi, but this last year hes just started to annoy me. He has the same problem that could affect guys like Lewis Hamilton, everyone is so far up his arse, telling him hes the best, that he becomes arrogant. In these situations the desire of the driver is questionable.

Just because a driver has a great car doesn't mean he will be succesful, he needs the right team with a good relationship as well as the right mental attitude. If you think all it takes to win at this level is a winning car, you're kidding yourself. Look at Fisi.

My tip for this year is Felipe Massa. He made so much progress last year I think he might be ready to take the next step up the ladder. I think he has the best chance at the title. I think Alonso will feature, but will just miss out on the title. I think Kimi might struggle for consistency this year, but will win a couple of races.

My other tip is Jenson Button, I think things will go one way or the other here. If Honda can put out a good, consistent, reliable car then I think he has a fantastic chance, maybe the best chance of his career. I've seen a change in his attitude this year, maybe he's realised that he has to fight for it, and that it won't be given to him.

My dark horse is Mark Webber in the Red Bull. I think the touch of Adrian Newey on the RB3 could just move Red Bull up the order. I think he could win a couple of races, and he will excel in qualifying. His race pace is the big unknown, we'll have to see if he can stay with the leaders. Whatever the case, I think he will outperform DC, by quite a long way.

''Filling'' Michael's boots won't be easy (and possible), and imo that's definitely not something people should expect of Kimi. I'm definitely not expecting he can come close to what MS did at Ferrari, simply cause Kimi isn't the complete driver MS was, and I don't think Kimi can do much to change that. He has his style of driving, some question it, cause it seems he's too hard on his equipment. I never thought he was a smooth driver, but I still think he can win the title, given the right equipment. That's the main question I think..will Ferrari give him a reliable car??? I'm not too worried whether the car is the fastest or not, cause Kimi has some great raw speed, that's one of his strengths. Anyway, people can question his desire to win, but I know he has that desire..it's easy to see when he ends in 2nd place, he simply doesn't care about 2nd place, maybe that lack of care for anything else than 1st place is mistaken for being arrogant..?? I dunno, but I'm definitely not questioning his desire, of course people can, if they want..

It's a fact that ''most of the time'' the one who wins has the best car.
Thankfully I'm not that stupid ( ..believe it or not..) to think that a driver ONLY needs a ''winning'' car. Damn, that would be easy, don't ya think???
It's ALWAYS about the right combination. It's about the driver and the car, as it always has been..

I would not be surprised if Massa would win. I think he will have a very good chance this year. He knows the team, Kimi doesn't, but that shouldn't matter. People can win in their first year (like Ayrton for example). I don't think it will be an easy year at all for Kimi, cause people have high hopes, but I think he will be able to control the situation.
About Alonso..what to say, that guy is just brilliant. Eventhough I'm a Kimi fan, I can see FA is ''probably'' the more complete one (at least imo). If he wins, I will be happy for him.

If someone thinks a title ''will be given'' to him he will never understand the meaning of being a true champ. So, I hope Jense (and others!!!) understand that. Should be more than obvious..imho...(if they have the desire to win of course).

Also think MW should beat DC. If Webber isn't able to beat him this year, then he's definitely not the real deal. I always thought Mark was a good driver, he's a hard worker, that's always good. He impressed me a few years ago when he drove the Jaguar. I think DC is getting too old anyway, it's time for some fresh blood, although an experienced driver like him is useful.

Damn, all this F1 talking makes me even more exciting!!!

Bring on the new season!!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 6 2007, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>maybe that lack of care for anything else than 1st place is mistaken for being arrogant..?? I dunno, but I'm definitely not questioning his desire, of course people can, if they want..
Thats not what I meant, ANY driver who makes it to that level should be happy with nothing but first, and should be aiming for the championship. It really pisses me off when they don't.

This year Kimi seemed quite happy with second.. I know he was leaving McLaren and the car wasn't that good, but even so.. I don't think mentally hes the same driver he once was..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ('Franco Fangio')<div class='quotemain'>If someone thinks a title ''will be given'' to him he will never understand the meaning of being a true champ. So, I hope Jense (and others!!!) understand that. Should be more than obvious..imho...(if they have the desire to win of course).
You'd be suprised how many drivers have that attitude, its really a shame. When from a young age they are nurtured and develop this glow around them (see Pedrosa).. they become arrogant and in my opinion, don't have that fire inside them that drivers who have to work more have (most of the time).. they don't have the same work ethic..

When you look at Raikkonens rather pathetic test mileage these last few years compared with Buttons, it does put things in perspective a little..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Feb 6 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You'd be suprised how many drivers have that attitude, its really a shame. When from a young age they are nurtured and develop this glow around them (see Pedrosa).. they become arrogant and in my opinion, don't have that fire inside them that drivers who have to work more have (most of the time).. they don't have the same work ethic..

Sorry to go off topic, but is this just a little pedrosa dig or do you actually think this is true? If so i'd love to know why. To me it seems like its far from the truth..............

DC is past it and MW will beat him no doubt. You guys seem to have the situation judged just how i see it. I wonder if Kimis fresh start can re-light some of his fire. Massa can do it if all goes well and he doesn't fall into Kimis shadow, and Alonso is the best driver out there, so it lies on mclaren to give him what he needs.

Bring it on

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 6 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry to go off topic, but is this just a little pedrosa dig or do you actually think this is true? If so i'd love to know why. To me it seems like its far from the truth..............
Pedrosa has one problem - Alberto Puig. It's never Dani's fault is it? I seem to recall an interview with Puig after the Estoril incident.. and he blamed Hayden for the crash. If that keeps up, it will turn any rider arrogant and they won't accept that they made a mistake, therefore they won't learn from it, in turn this gives them the 'glow' I was talking about. Not good. Not saying Dani is at that stage yet, but he seems to be getting close.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 6 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>DC is past it and MW will beat him no doubt. You guys seem to have the situation judged just how i see it. I wonder if Kimis fresh start can re-light some of his fire. Massa can do it if all goes well and he doesn't fall into Kimis shadow, and Alonso is the best driver out there, so it lies on mclaren to give him what he needs.
This year is crucial for Kimi, he HAS to beat Massa. Otherwise it's game over. The majority of the time, once you become number 2 at Ferrari, you never climb back up the mountain.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Feb 6 2007, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats not what I meant, ANY driver who makes it to that level should be happy with nothing but first, and should be aiming for the championship. It really pisses me off when they don't.

This year Kimi seemed quite happy with second.. I know he was leaving McLaren and the car wasn't that good, but even so.. I don't think mentally hes the same driver he once was..

You'd be suprised how many drivers have that attitude, its really a shame. When from a young age they are nurtured and develop this glow around them (see Pedrosa).. they become arrogant and in my opinion, don't have that fire inside them that drivers who have to work more have (most of the time).. they don't have the same work ethic..

When you look at Raikkonens rather pathetic test mileage these last few years compared with Buttons, it does put things in perspective a little..
Of course they should be aiming for the championship, but if you don't have the car you can aim whatever you want, it still won't bring you the title. I think it's easy to call someone arrogant, I still fail to see why you think Kimi is arrogant. I guess it's all opinion then..that's cool..but I would like to know why you exactly think he is arrogant..??

If I were Kimi I would be happy too if I finished in 2nd place (in 2006), cause he finished 2nd ''only'' two times that season. That's not exactly what we expected after seeing him win 7 races in 2005 and ending as runner up to FA. People thought Mclaren would be a title contender last year, but they didnt have the car, not even close to what renault and Ferrari had..

Ow, something else, you said you don't think he's the same driver mentally he used to be, what year are you referring to? In what years do you think he was mentally strong then?

About Kimi's mileage compared to Button's..you're right..Kimi's mileage is indeed rather ''pathetic''. If you look at what they achieved so far, it's not so ''pathetic'' anymore, BUT I guess, as always, the car has his share, right??? If Kimi should change one thing, it's testing more imo..

I think this season will be very hard for Kimi, but I'm sure he likes the challenge though. It won't be easy, but I think KR can beat FM. Let's hope it will be more interesting than the JPM vs. KR fight, cause overall it was pretty clear who the better one was. And compared to DC, Kimi was also better, only in his rookie year NH was the better one. I seriously can't wait for the season to start. I'm not hoping for a Ferrari (or another team) dominance. I just want to see lots of battles on the track, I'm not too sure whether we'll see that, cause..well..F1 isnt what it used to be..either way, can't wait!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 6 2007, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Of course they should be aiming for the championship, but if you don't have the car you can aim whatever you want, it still won't bring you the title. I think it's easy to call someone arrogant, I still fail to see why you think Kimi is arrogant. I guess it's all opinion then..that's cool..but I would like to know why you exactly think he is arrogant..??
Same reason as Pedrosa, hes been nurtured too much. Ron Dennis was too protective of him at McLaren. I don't know him personally, and neither do you, so neither of us can be 100% sure of his attitude. But from what ive seen, when he wins he rarely shows any emotion. When he loses he starts punching marshalls (something that REALLY pisses me off).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>If I were Kimi I would be happy too if I finished in 2nd place (in 2006), cause he finished 2nd ''only'' two times that season. That's not exactly what we expected after seeing him win 7 races in 2005 and ending as runner up to FA. People thought Mclaren would be a title contender last year, but they didnt have the car, not even close to what renault and Ferrari had..
Sorry Nica but you're contradicting yourself there. You just said earlier on a driver shouldn't be happy with second, but yet when Kimi does it it's ok. Because hes Kimi. No its not ok, not in my opinion. He should be aiming to win.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Ow, something else, you said you don't think he's the same driver mentally he used to be, what year are you referring to? In what years do you think he was mentally strong then?
All his career up to 2006. Its just this last year I saw a change in him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Feb 6 2007, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Same reason as Pedrosa, hes been nurtured too much. Ron Dennis was too protective of him at McLaren. I don't know him personally, and neither do you, so neither of us can be 100% sure of his attitude. But from what ive seen, when he wins he rarely shows any emotion. When he loses he starts punching marshalls (something that REALLY pisses me off).
Sorry Nica but you're contradicting yourself there. You just said earlier on a driver shouldn't be happy with second, but yet when Kimi does it it's ok. Because hes Kimi. No its not ok, not in my opinion. He should be aiming to win.
All his career up to 2006. Its just this last year I saw a change in him.

I think being ''nurtured'' and being protected aren't reasons to think he's arrogant. It's true he doesn't show too much emotion, but that surely isn't a reason to think he's arrogant. I can remember he pushed a marshal, but people shouldn't overreact. He clearly was pissed (I guess he does show emotions then..) cause he had another car failure. I'm not saying that's a reason to push someone, cleary it isn't, but I guess he's human..if you have yet another failure and someone is putting his hands on him (to help him I suppose) right after he got out of the car I can't blame him for thinking ''get the F out of my way!!

Ow, I dont think I was contradicting myself. I know what I said. It's true that you should go for 1st place and not be happy with 2nd place, BUT if you don't have a car to win, if you have a car that's not competing with the front runners, then I think ending 2nd ain't that bad after all. I mean, if MS ended in 2nd place in a race last season, I didn't exactly expect him to jump up and down like he did the best thing ever. It's all about what's in your reach. Fact is that Mclaren didnt have the car to win last season. In that case it's only natural/logical to not think about winning every race. Kimi wasn't in that position, to challenge for wins like the FA and MS.
I guess it's never ok, right? Let's be honest. People say someone looks arrogant cause he didnt smile or looked happy with 2nd place. If he was happy with that result, it would be..''ow, he's happy with 2nd place, and he shouldn't..bla bla''.

I never said it's ok ''cause it's KIMI''. No way man. who said that?? cause that person must be crazy..
Maybe it would be nice if he showed (more) emotions when he won or finished on the podium, BUT it doesn't mean that he doesn't care...
People jump to conclusions way too early and way too easy..that's what pisses me off!!!!
I like Kimi the way he is..sure he's not a MS (that guy was always soooo happy when he won a race)..and sure he's not a FM who shows his tears (which is great) but I don't support people for those reasons. I like Kimi the way he is, I hope he wont change. He's fast and he doesnt care what other people think of him (maybe that's being mistaken for arrogance).
I don't think he's arrogant, he wants to win, if he doesnt, then it shows, and it should!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 7 2007, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ow, I dont think I was contradicting myself. I know what I said. It's true that you should go for 1st place and not be happy with 2nd place, BUT if you don't have a car to win, if you have a car that's not competing with the front runners, then I think ending 2nd ain't that bad after all. I mean, if MS ended in 2nd place in a race last season, I didn't exactly expect him to jump up and down like he did the best thing ever. It's all about what's in your reach. Fact is that Mclaren didnt have the car to win last season. In that case it's only natural/logical to not think about winning every race. Kimi wasn't in that position, to challenge for wins like the FA and MS.
I guess it's never ok, right? Let's be honest. People say someone looks arrogant cause he didnt smile or looked happy with 2nd place. If he was happy with that result, it would be..''ow, he's happy with 2nd place, and he shouldn't..bla bla''.

I never said it's ok ''cause it's KIMI''. No way man. who said that?? cause that person must be crazy..
Now this is where things get interesting. I truly believe that if, lets say, DC was in that McLaren last year, you, like most people, would criticise him for only aiming for second, and rightly so imo. But because its your favourite driver in question, you have made an excuse for him.

This is exactly why I don't have a favourite driver at the moment. Being so defensive of someone who you've never even met, making too many exceptions for that driver, purely because of their surname, is something I can never understand. It's something I see everyday in motorsport forums, talking to motorsport fans, and I've never understood it. I'm strange on these forums in reality, because I don't root for a particular driver (I just have ones i prefer over others).. however im glad its this way, because it means I have a clear (well, sort of) judgement of things. If one of the drivers I favour does something like pushing a marshall, or displays arrogance, then I will criticise him for it, like I would any driver.

The fact is, you know that I don't judge drivers purely by their abilities. I don't just support the latest young prospect or whoever is the most talented (which is unfortunately what most people do). I prefer drivers who are hard workers, who show passion for their sport, and who are determined to reach their goals. But also display sportsmanship and have an amicable prescence off track. At the moment in Formula One it is very hard to find a driver who displays all of these.

Hope you don't think I'm having a go at you here Nica cos I'm not. I just don't understand why you find it so hard to accept Kimi being criticised. If he was a family member or someone you knew personally then maybe I could understand. But hes not, so does it really matter? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have mine, and you have yours.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Feb 7 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now this is where things get interesting. I truly believe that if, lets say, DC was in that McLaren last year, you, like most people, would criticise him for only aiming for second, and rightly so imo. But because its your favourite driver in question, you have made an excuse for him.

This is exactly why I don't have a favourite driver at the moment. Being so defensive of someone who you've never even met, making too many exceptions for that driver, purely because of their surname, is something I can never understand. It's something I see everyday in motorsport forums, talking to motorsport fans, and I've never understood it. I'm strange on these forums in reality, because I don't root for a particular driver (I just have ones i prefer over others).. however im glad its this way, because it means I have a clear (well, sort of) judgement of things. If one of the drivers I favour does something like pushing a marshall, or displays arrogance, then I will criticise him for it, like I would any driver.

The fact is, you know that I don't judge drivers purely by their abilities. I don't just support the latest young prospect or whoever is the most talented (which is unfortunately what most people do). I prefer drivers who are hard workers, who show passion for their sport, and who are determined to reach their goals. But also display sportsmanship and have an amicable prescence off track. At the moment in Formula One it is very hard to find a driver who displays all of these.

Hope you don't think I'm having a go at you here Nica cos I'm not. I just don't understand why you find it so hard to accept Kimi being criticised. If he was a family member or someone you knew personally then maybe I could understand. But hes not, so does it really matter? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have mine, and you have yours.
Please don't just assume things, ok!
I don't think I would criticise DC if he would be aiming for 2nd place, so..that's really only assumptions from your side. To be honest I never really saw DC as a real winner..he was mostly playing 2nd fiddle to Mika anyway. I do think he's a nice guy though, but obviously that has nothing to do with it.

I can understand it if a person doesn't have a favourite driver. That's cool too, but I know I have a clear judgement about things too, not only you. people can say a lot about me, but I'm not the type to say ''my favourite is the best and he deserves everything..bla bla''. I think you already knew that. I'm the first to admit that Kimi is a bit lazy, he definitely isn't the best (I think) and imo he should do more testing and stuff, but..I just like him. The first time I saw him race in 2001 I knew I would always support him, and that didn't change. I think he's a very good driver, who has the potential to be F1 champion, but...I do have a clear judgement (at least I think I have).

I can totally understand why you would support someone who's a hard worker and shows great passion. I like that too in a driver. I'm not sure if Kimi is a hard worker, but I do think he has the passion and desire to win, but that's just my opinion.

Well, I also don't support the most talented..I'm supporting Kimi I don't think he's the most talented one out there. Imo that's FA (if we look at nowadays drivers).

Ow, and I agree, we all have our opinion That's what makes life much more interesting, don't ya think?? Would be boring if we all agreed on everything..

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