Fall out from the loss of Marco Simoncelli

Kropotkin said:

There are deaths in every sport, as a direct result of the sport itself. Even golf, as golf courses are the best places to get electrocuted (which even though I am an atheist, suggests to me that either Jhwh or Thor is telling golfers to harden the .... up). That "article" was just an anti-motorsport rant with no merit in it. There is a debate to be had about the amount of risk which is appropriate, but if you want to make the world safer for young men and women, go get one-day event banned, and rock fishing, and rock climbing, and skydiving. Once you've done that, come looking for motorcycle racing.



That article was intellectually lazy.

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Kropotkin said:

There are deaths in every sport, as a direct result of the sport itself. Even golf, as golf courses are the best places to get electrocuted (which even though I am an atheist, suggests to me that either Jhwh or Thor is telling golfers to harden the .... up).

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Jumkie said:

As this is the "fallout" thread, I thought I'd post this article here. And while I'm at it, I'd like to say, people have many takes, opinions, and ways of coping, given the recent death of Sic, most have been measured which has been relieving to me. I think this thread shows that there are various aspects to be explored about the incident itself, ourselves, the ways of a forum, and the community at large. Here is an article from the outer stretches of this spectra. Btw, my first reaction was to lambast this person, but then I took a few more reflective moments in thought, and found myself exploring some of the thoughts expressed while others were filed under other areas. I hope we all take the measured approach.



http://www.heraldsun...d9892ad67fa3908

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stiefel said:

Shut up guys.

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Pigeon said:

that ^ come on ppl



and yeah who wrote that horseshit article

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Jill Singer is a well-known Australian journalist, columnist and television presenter. She began her journalism career as an ABC radio trainee in 1984. She worked her way up to become a senior reporter for The 7.30 Report on the ABC and later presented the Victorian edition of Today Tonight on the Seven Network. She has also presented for The 7.30 Report, The Arts Show, 2-shot and People Dimensions (ABCTV) She was the executive producer of ABCTV's national morning news and current affairs program First Edition. Currently she writes a weekly column for the Melbourne Herald Sun and lectures in television journalism at RMIT University in Melbourne. She makes regular appearances on The Conversation Hour (ABC774) and on SKYTV's Melbourne Report.

In 1992, Singer won the Walkley Award for "Best Investigative Television Journalist."

In 1996, Jill collapsed on-air as she attempted to introduce a story on the then Victorian Premier Jeff Kennett's business dealings. The collapse, a severe migraine attack, prompted a public furore, and the story went to air the following night, unchanged. However, journalists and producers who worked on the story did not have their contracts renewed. The story behind this was uncovered by an ABC Four Corners feature and the Seven Network was accused of bowing to pressure from the State Government to pull the story.

in 1997 Singer was highly commended at the Quill Awards for her Herald Sun column.

In 1999, Singer won the Quill Award for Best Television Current Affairs report for an investigation into ExxonMobil.

In 2010, Singer won the Quill Award for Best Television Current Affairs (less than 15 minutes) for a report on flaws in the criminal justice system's treatment of domestic violence victims.

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Jumkie said:

As this is the "fallout" thread, I thought I'd post this article here. And while I'm at it, I'd like to say, people have many takes, opinions, and ways of coping, given the recent death of Sic, most have been measured which has been relieving to me. I think this thread shows that there are various aspects to be explored about the incident itself, ourselves, the ways of a forum, and the community at large. Here is an article from the outer stretches of this spectra. Btw, my first reaction was to lambast this person, but then I took a few more reflective moments in thought, and found myself exploring some of the thoughts expressed while others were filed under other areas. I hope we all take the measured approach.



http://www.heraldsun...d9892ad67fa3908

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BarryMachine said:

http://bikermagz.com...i-petrucci.html

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Geo Nerd said:

The lady makes a number of points, some of which are IMO worth debate. Too bad she felt the need to push her luck with the cheap, all-inclusive, "Bud swilling rednecks exchanging high fives" crack. Hear that swirling sound, Jill? That's the last vestige of your credibility headed down the crapper.

Media has such tremendous potential; potential that is utterly wasted 99% of the time. The purpose of TeeVee, and the press in general, is to make people watch more TeeVee and buy more papers. Nothing more. A nice inflammatory article like this is gold.









Yea, I really shouldn't say anything... but...

Am I the only one who thinks Rossi is just a little to happy here?

Yea, it's only one snapshot in time, and it's 'unfair' to draw a conclusion from one moment in time. But why is it that the Stoners (who were IMO never famous for being wildly social) look far more upset than the guy who ran over his "brother's" head three days prior? Rossi's clownish reaction to (whatever) is completely beyond my understanding. I simply cannot conceive of anyone making a face like that in public so shortly after the abrupt death of a true friend. I'm trying not to be judgmental, but it's very hard not to feel a touch of anger.

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Geo Nerd said:

Am I the only one who thinks Rossi is just a little to happy here?

Yea, it's only one snapshot in time, and it's 'unfair' to draw a conclusion from one moment in time. But why is it that the Stoners (who were IMO never famous for being wildly social) look far more upset than the guy who ran over his "brother's" head three days prior? Rossi's clownish reaction to (whatever) is completely beyond my understanding. I simply cannot conceive of anyone making a face like that in public so shortly after the abrupt death of a true friend. I'm trying not to be judgmental, but it's very hard not to feel a touch of anger.

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Jumkie said:

Geo my friend, nothing looks unusual about that expression except that it is just a snapshot. As you already answered your own question but proceeded anyway, its a "snapshot" that is, a microsecond in time. Did you know that if I were to take sequential pictures of your face while talking, that several expressions could be seemingly extracted? That is how they get the expression to match an article when they assign a picture to a newspaper article.



And here is something else to ponder. There are many individuals who smile or even laugh as a nervous coping mechanism in stressful situations. Considering the event, and people snapping pics, I would expect a few in the crowd to display seemingly strange expressions. Also, he could be attempting to cheer somebody up who is distraught by putting on a lighthearted face for that individual. There are I'm sure many possible explanations, but him being happy is not one of them.

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Kropotkin said:

That article was intellectually lazy.

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stedee said:

why do ppl have to overcomplicate things.....



trying to fing hidden meaning etc etc.



he died doing something he loved, i loved to watch him doing something he loved because of the skill, passion, bravery etc etc.



i dont think anythng will change with the running of motogp and i`m glad, would marco have wanted them to carry on - damn right



the 800s were dodgy at least the motogp bosses knew that and they are going back to 1000s where good lap times can come from a variety of styles.



and some ppl thinking rossi would be happy, what are you on!!!!

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- I (foolishly) tweeted my doubts about the genuineness of this outpouring of grief and suggested the sport thrives on crashes.

Jill Singer

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Geo Nerd said:

Yea, I really shouldn't say anything... but...

Am I the only one who thinks Rossi is just a little to happy here?



Yea, it's only one snapshot in time, and it's 'unfair' to draw a conclusion from one moment in time. But why is it that the Stoners (who were IMO never famous for being wildly social) look far more upset than the guy who ran over his "brother's" head three days prior? Rossi's clownish reaction to (whatever) is completely beyond my understanding. I simply cannot conceive of anyone making a face like that in public so shortly after the abrupt death of a true friend. I'm trying not to be judgmental, but it's very hard not to feel a touch of anger.

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Geo Nerd said:

Yea, I really shouldn't say anything... but...

Am I the only one who thinks Rossi is just a little to happy here?

Yea, it's only one snapshot in time, and it's 'unfair' to draw a conclusion from one moment in time. But why is it that the Stoners (who were IMO never famous for being wildly social) look far more upset than the guy who ran over his "brother's" head three days prior? Rossi's clownish reaction to (whatever) is completely beyond my understanding. I simply cannot conceive of anyone making a face like that in public so shortly after the abrupt death of a true friend. I'm trying not to be judgmental, but it's very hard not to feel a touch of anger.

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bluegreen said:

No you stupid ...... This sport thrives on PASSES.



If you don't understand that then GTFO!!



If you think I'd rather see a young man's life end lying motionless on a track rather than watch him execute beautiful passing exchanges with other riders than you're the ....... ghoul.

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Kropotkin said:

That article was intellectually lazy.

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Jill plenty of people that don't watch motorbike racing are grieving for Marco. Why? Because he was good young person who was a world champion that died at 24 years old.

Whether he played tennis, raced motorcycles or was a journalist(I mean a good one Jill) that died at 24 it is common for people to greive. Not just ones who watched him.

My 67 year old non race watching mother cried when watched the story on the news.

I don't see how all people that grieve have blood on their hands.



Whether it be a story on a villain like Gadafi or a hero Marco, lowly journo's that try what you are trying have more blood on their hands than anyone.

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chopperman said:

I hope Rossi, colin and Marcos parents and girl friend find things to smile about, if only to keep their sanity. A thing that quite often happens in the uk either during or after a funeral is for people to tell storys about the deceased. This quite often results in smiles and laughter as it should. The sorrow is still there but remembering the good time and funny times makes you happy if all but for a second or two.

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