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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo - ...by the sound of his interview he is moving to honda...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>A cannot read into it:
During the interview he gave for BBC before the race, he was very clear that he doesn't want to be the number 2 rider in Yamaha.
It would be interesting if Telefonica sponsor a 1 man yamaha spec bike for next season,instead of a honda 1 man team.
I wonder after yesterdays race whether Livio Suppo will let Casey gamble again about race tyres
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rossifan @ Jul 27 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>During the interview he gave for BBC before the race, he was very clear that he doesn't want to be the number 2 rider in Yamaha.

Well technically he's number# 2 at Yamaha, but really, that is still better than #1 at Honda. And if they keep peders, does he think he will be #1 there? I think Yamaha are treating him right, he's as close to being a #1 with them as you can get. I hope he doesn't make a mistake and move to Honda. I've enjoyed having him dice it up with Valentino, and frankly I think Rossi has also enjoyed it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well technically he's number# 2 at Yamaha, but really, that is still better than #1 at Honda. And if they keep peders, does he think he will be #1 there? I think Yamaha are treating him right, he's as close to being a #1 with them as you can get. I hope he doesn't make a mistake and move to Honda. I've enjoyed having him dice it up with Valentino, and frankly I think Rossi has also enjoyed it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Jul 27 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>THE BBC HAPPY TOO.

The BBC had a record audience for yesterday’s dramatic British MotoGP race at Donington Park.

Audience figures peaked at 2.9 million viewers as an enthralling 30-lap race unfolded, with the BBC reporting an impressive average audience share of 23 per cent.

The average audience for the race, which saw Andrea Dovizioso claim a maiden MotoGP victory after Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo both crashed out of the lead, was 2.8m.

The viewing figures represent a stunning 50 per cent increase on the Beeb’s normal MotoGP audience. And the figures smash the previous best average audience by a million viewers.
MotoGP series producer Belinda Moore told MCN: “These record-breaking figures are outstanding and highlight the huge popularity that MotoGP has in the UK.

"The BBC is delighted with these fantastic viewing figures because it means that MotoGP is being exposed to a much more mainstream audience, and that has always been one of the key objectives in our long and successful partnership with Dorna.”

The later race start at 3.30pm is one reason for the huge surge in viewers, with the race delayed from to accommodate the Hungarian Formula One race.

The later race start is a crap excuse, the reason for good viewing figures is; because it was Donington i.e. UK, because the BEEB finally gave MotoGP the coverage it deserves ~ half an hour warm up and extra on the red button, because they actually advertised it (and have changed the bloody title music which is a travesty)
Coverage of Laguna Seca started with 10 mins warm up on the red button and then changed to B2 ONLY just in time for the start. Nothing afterwards as they were showing highlights of bloody Wimbledon
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Sorry if this has been addressed already but I'm new. So Hi all
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So my newbie (to the board) opinion on the race...
Good for the sport to see the top 4 off the podium.
Amazed De Puniet stayed on.
Elias, when leading, looking over his shoulder to make sure that everyone else was actually still racing and they hadn't all pulled over as a joke
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Think Pedrosa got scared of the conditions (just being back to health etc) and being so close to DP ~ expecting him to take him out too.
Think Rossi should have let Dovi pass and forced him into making mistakes, but The Doctor still came back and beat Pedrosa even after a crash
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Having read the threads, I'm sure you'll tell me if you think I'm wrong
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hi BG, we've missed you. Hows the little one? Hope all good.

Oh, as far as Vale, yes you are right, he just can't get it right--just like Stoner, just like Hayden previous to him. Its just these riders can never get it right as long as we have fans of the other guy, eh. We've had a new string of Rossi mindless joining lately, they have been in full swing the last month (after being energized with Rossi's fantastic wins), and I have been having a little fun with them. Its amazing what they will say when energized to blindly argue that he can do no wrong

There are other camps having that kind of fans as well, the hayden/stoenr/ducati camp is particularly visible in this tread. Regardless of what the team manager says, regardless of what all commentators says, against everyone and everything there is one guy actually saying the rain tire choice "were not so bad". Can you believe it!!!!!!!!!!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well technically he's number# 2 at Yamaha, but really, that is still better than #1 at Honda.

And why would that be?
Sure you are not trying to make the Yamaha look like a supernatural bike, miles ahead of everything else?
I honestly don't see what's wrong with Honda. They won 2 of the last three races and for the first time this season they have two healthy strong riders, although one still are a bit behind the top 4 in speed and that starts to show in the results.

About #2
With an ego like Lorenzo's it's not enough to be #2, not even the #2 beating #1 is good enough.
He wants it all. Full control of set up and development, the star of the show ..... There is little reason to think it will be successful but none the less, his ego demand full control over everything.
Telling him to stay as #2 is kind of like suggesting to Rossi that he should slow down to save valuable points instead of fighting for the win. Their heads simply doesn't work that way
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 27 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There are other camps having that kind of fans as well, the hayden/stoenr/ducati camp is particularly visible in this tread. Regardless of what the team manager says, regardless of what all commentators says, against everyone and everything there is one guy actually saying the rain tire choice "were not so bad". Can you believe it!!!!!!!!!!

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You're still here? Wow, no shame, eh. Even after I expose your ..... comments to the world. Amazing. And to think, I had stopped piling on. Ok X-ray eyes, you know better since I guess you were able to "hear" the rain clouds going away. Its so inconceivable that it might rain since you already knew it wouldn't. Lets see, eagle eyes, x-ray eyes, bionic hearing, and now you are a meterologist too?

Dude, you are ........, but do you expect me to believe you didn't understand my reply to BG? Your comments above are not news. Shouldn't you be studying the race images on your TV screen to tell us why Rossi's tires were "shredding"? Interesting, I haven't heard you mention it, and they had such a great onboard camera of it, that is, before he went down. Babel, you are one of the few remaining Rossi Mindless (except for the new ones that have just arrived) and it will be my pleasure shitting on every ........ take you have, over and over again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 27 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And why would that be?
Sure you are not trying to make the Yamaha look like a supernatural bike, miles ahead of everything else?
I honestly don't see what's wrong with Honda. They won 2 of the last three races and for the first time this season they have two healthy strong riders, although one still are a bit behind the top 4 in speed and that starts to show in the results.

This is why its so easy to .... on your takes, because they are so disconnected from reality. Remind me, how long had it been since Honda had won a race before Laguna? (And they almost lost that one).

So your gonna count Honda's win at Donny as proof they are back? Your stupidity is truly breathtaking. Lets see, all four front runner has a disaster of a race, and Dovi wins? And he almost got caught, like Peders at Laguna. And this is your big argument that Honda is equal to Yamaha? Damn you are absurd.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>About #2
With an ego like Lorenzo's it's not enough to be #2, not even the #2 beating #1 is good enough.
He wants it all. Full control of set up and development, the star of the show ..... There is little reason to think it will be successful but none the less, his ego demand full control over everything.
Telling him to stay as #2 is kind of like suggesting to Rossi that he should slow down to save valuable points instead of fighting for the win. Their heads simply doesn't work that way
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Well no ..... What exactly is your insight here? Of course, everybody wants to be number 1. The point is with Peders/Puig at Honda, he won't be #1 either. And on top of that, the Yamaha is miles ahead of the Honda (even if you don't accept it, and you but forth very weak arguments to support you incorrect point).

His best bet is at Yamaha. Period.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Jul 27 2009, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Calma te compa!
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I know, I know, just having a little fun bro.

(BTW, we making progress for Valencia.)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're still here? Wow, no shame, eh. Even after I expose your ..... comments to the world. Amazing. And to think, I had stopped piling on. Ok X-ray eyes, you know better since I guess you were able to "hear" the rain clouds going away. Its so inconceivable that it might rain since you already knew it wouldn't. Lets see, eagle eyes, x-ray eyes, bionic hearing, and now you are a meterologist too?

Dude, you are ........, but do you expect me to believe you didn't understand my reply to BG? Your comments above are not news. Shouldn't you be studying the race images on your TV screen to tell us why Rossi's tires were "shredding"? Interesting, I haven't heard you mention it, and they had such a great onboard camera of it, that is, before he went down. Babel, you are one of the few remaining Rossi Mindless (except for the new ones that have just arrived) and it will be my pleasure shitting on every ........ take you have, over and over again.

And you are doing so well at that. Your reply is so spot on. Wiping my attack away with soundly footed arguments.
I'm certain you gain lots of kudos for those well formulated posts J. Of course you know SOOO much better than Suppo and the rest of the world
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And betting on a dramatic change in the weather within a 5 min. window is of course a wise decision.
Btw, last time I checked Hayden had a completely different go at the TC thing when he was interviewed at Donington. "Wide Open" through the turns in the wet, sounds familiar?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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I know, I know, just having a little fun bro.

(BTW, we making progress for Valencia.)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is why its so easy to .... on your takes, because they are so disconnected from reality. Remind me, how long had it been since Honda had won a race before Laguna? (And they almost lost that one).
Pedrosa misscalculating Rossi's last sprint hardly makes it less relevant, does it?
Except from that it was a very convincing victory where he controlled most of the race alone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>So your gonna count Honda's win at Donny as proof they are back? Your stupidity is truly breathtaking. Lets see, all four front runner has a disaster of a race, and Dovi wins? And he almost got caught, like Peders at Laguna. And this is your big argument that Honda is equal to Yamaha? Damn you are absurd.
What does this soud like? Ha, I remember now. 2006. But you are not suggesting that this has ANYTHING to do with luck J. After all that work the last 2 years teaching us all that there is no such ting as luck. And a win is a win, and what ever happened to the rest they brought it on them selves. Right, please tell me that after thousands of posts and millions of lines you've given up on your own theeses.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Well no ..... What exactly is your insight here? Of course, everybody wants to be number 1. The point is with Peders/Puig at Honda, he won't be #1 either.
You might be right, but I'll bet that's a huge part of the negotiations going on.
IF he get guarantees that he will have full factory support and priority above pedrosa that might be too tempting for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>And on top of that, the Yamaha is miles ahead of the Honda (even if you don't accept it, and you but forth very weak arguments to support you incorrect point).

I can see there is no reason to go on with that argument
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>His best bet is at Yamaha. Period.
I agree, as I doubt he is ready to take over the development of the Honda.
He looks a bit too much like Creville to me at the moment and becoming #1 now could be a disaster.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 27 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pedrosa misscalculating Rossi's last sprint hardly makes it less relevant, does it?

. And a win is a win

Leave it to you to miss your own point. The win is not in dispute, the idea that Honda are equal to Yamaha is, and yes, the manner in which Dovi & peders win in relation to the Yamahas, is in fact "relevant". Not that use use logic, but when Rossi and Lorenzo have won, they have left the Hondas in the dust.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>You might be right, but I'll bet that's a huge part of the negotiations going on.
IF he get guarantees that he will have full factory support and priority above pedrosa that might be too tempting for him.

As I understand it, Hayden had it "written" into his contract too. What is your opinion Fish, did they deliver?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I can see there is no reason to go on with that argument
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I agree, as I doubt he is ready to take over the development of the Honda.
He looks a bit too much like Creville to me at the moment and becoming #1 now could be a disaster.

The only sensible thing you've said. Except Lorenzo is 10x tougher and mentally stronger that Creville. BTW, nobody has really mentioned this because it seems none of us really believe it, but does anybody think he may be chasing the money?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Leave it to you to miss your own point. The win is not in dispute, the idea that Honda are equal to Yamaha is, and yes, the manner in which Dovi & peders win in relation to the Yamahas, is in fact "relevant". Not that use use logic, but when Rossi and Lorenzo have won, they have left the Hondas in the dust.
And Pedrosa did a convincing race, show casing just what the Honda are capable of.
New engine and healthy riders. I find it very strange, almost disturbing why anyone would write write off Honda in that situation.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>As I understand it, Hayden had it "written" into his contract too. What is your opinion Fish, did they deliver?
I doubt he had any guarantees what so ever. But what you and I think will happen if Lorenzo goes to Honda is a side step.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>The only sensible thing you've said. Except Lorenzo is 10x tougher and mentally stronger that Creville.
I agree that Lorenzo is stronger mentally, unfortunately that might just as well work against him <strike>as</strike> <span style="color:#0000FFif he is convinced that he is The Man to make Honda the world champion. My point is that even Creville were strong enough force changes on the Honda making the bike unridable for everyone (but Rossi)

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 27 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And Pedrosa did a convincing race, show casing just what the Honda are capable of.
New engine and healthy riders. I find it very strange, almost disturbing why anyone would write write off Honda in that situation.

The tell tale sign that you are losing a debate is when you start to go off on tangents. Who is writing Honda off? Your point was that Honda are near par with Yamaha, I disagree. But they are second best over the other factories--this is not writing them off. Honda have not had both finish riders even finish the race for several rounds now, and you want to point to some win in the rain, and some win by peders thanks to a fantastic jump, but eventually was caught, to argue your point that Honda is as good as Yamaha (or near them?) Both their riders have had several DNFs, and tires falling apart (your specialty); have you considered it can be because the Honda still sucks?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I doubt he had any guarantees what so ever. But what you and I think will happen if Lorenzo goes to Honda is a side step.

Again, here you say that Honda and Yamaha are equal ("side step"). Factory Yamaha have held two spots on a podium of three for mush of the season, and even when their two factories hav a disaster of a race, their satellite rider almost wins! And BTW, that satellite ride has scored several top 5s. Hahahah, babel come on, debating you is starting to lose its fun. So I beat up on the forum ....., 'horay for me'--that's not much of an accomplishment.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I agree that Lorenzo is stronger mentally, unfortunately that might just as well work against him as he is convinced that he is The Man to make Honda the world champion. My point is that even Creville were strong enough force changes on the Honda making the bike unridable for everyone (but Rossi)

Ok, I'll agree with this part.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Welcome back Arrabi. Can't wait to read your takes and pics. I heard it was cold and wet. Ah, sounds lovely--looks like you missed out Clarky boy! Hahaha.

Get some rest.
Thanks Jum - can't really say I needed rest, when I live 28 miles from the circuit, but then after qualifying on Saturday I went to a BBQ in the next village which degenerated into the usual bacchanalian debauchery, and didn't get to sleep until 2.00 am, then got up at 4.a.m - had to meet Rog at a service station on the M1 but my planned lift to get me there never materialised due to the fact that everyone was still comatosed. Grabbed a cab and was there with the big man and Bonnie at 6.00 as planned - so after two hours sleep felt like I'd just stepped off a dozen transatlantic flights instead of a 15 minute cab ride to the motorway. One can of Relentless, a bottle of wife beater and and infusion of Ska from 'DJ- Chopperman' on the car stereo and I felt ready for the day, and enthused with anticipation at the thought of Rog and Bonnie hearing the sound of these wonderful machines unleashed and barreling toward them down Craners. Actually I'd rung Rog the day before trackside during the morning practice session - the sound of a Desmosedici on full song hammering down Craners as a wake up call - (he was still in bed at the time!)

Rog's bladder, that morning, having the integrity of Alberto Puig and the constitution durability/stamina of Casey, meant that we eventually after several pit stops, made our way out field courtesy of the new tunnel at McCleans and parked our arses between Starkey's and Schwantz, where more beer was had by all. Poor Bonnie had been acting as sherpa for Rog's alcohol provisions, and so we willingly lightened the load - in my case begrudgingly (in view of the night before) when, unsurprisingly, more Stella proved to be the contents - an' if you know Rog, then you'll understand that he's not a man that tends to take no for an answer
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). Because of the night before I was topping up, and felt like I'd been fed some of Rog's Special brew by intravenous drip for the past 24 hrs. Actually, Rog was less than impressed by my Bombadier Bitter, which I'd found lying around at the end of the party I'd been at - they're so inoffensive, I suppose they'd been forgotten about as opposed to discarded, so I scooped them up and added them to my next day stash. Rog was similarly underwhelmed when I unveiled my pasta breakfast, but after sampling some of his Tandori Chicken pack up, like Special brew vs Bombadier, it's a little like making comparisons between a party popper and a 21 gun salute. I swear this was still repeating on me 24 hrs later, my arse is burbling on the overrun like a GSV exhaust system (and I only had a morsel of the stuff). Anyway, sensing that I was lamely punching like an apparent lightweight, I was keen to point out that his hero would also later be similarly indulging in a light lunch of pasta, but Rog immediately countered with the fact that he wouldn't because fat ....... Uccio had probably exhausted all the Fiat Yamaha hospitality by Friday dinner. Anyway, in my defence, I had a speed camera workshop to attend the next day, and I was a mite wary about turning up on an r1 with a small plate, black visor and a race can -breath smelling like the Park Royal Brewery, with a hint of strong curry.

I must at this point highlight the fact that I have relinquished ownership of a Canon EOS due to domestic circumstances, so official photographers for this event were Rog, Bonnie and Willski. I am also aware that this post should belong in the last Doni - so maybe Jane, Frost, Ben or Dazza would obligingly move it there for me at some point
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On the subject of which, Rog has bagged some excellent shots, following an altercation with several punters and the wire fence which I'll leave him to explain.

Wills having valiantly and heroically fended off the mayhem outside the circuit soon materialised, and another beer was had by all. Great to meet a very knowledgable like-minded racefan, who like Rog and Bonnie don't need to cower behind Google or take refuge inside their internet anonymity and are keen to share their passion for the sport and have a good crack in the process.

Perched on the hill, we awaited the races buffeted by a very strong westerly. Incidentally, Rog's chair was equipped with drink holder - (or two), mine was a cheaper more inferior version, which I hoped Bonnie would substitute when Rog dropped me off - but he was already on to the ruse. Being bereft of an armrest with a can holder is never going to be a garanteur of sobriety in the presence of Rog - or given the large stash of ale which we brought.

Regarding the race, there's nothing much I can add to the excellent observations and discussions already present on this thread. I managed to call the 125 and the 250 races - although, the 125 race being so chaotic doesn't really count, and I would never have predicted the win that Espagaro was so cruelly denied. Aoyama, I favoured because of the conditions, and what a championship ride that was. I completely ballsed up the main race prediction. I beleived that Vale would be unbeatable in the dodgy conditions, but if the track fully dried, then Dani would've cleared off. As a massive long term fan of Dovi, I knew that he loves this place, and that he had secured wins in the 125 and 250 classes but I really didn't see him bagging his first race win, and was privileged to be present.

Being at such close quarters to the racing, I can only convey the awe that we all felt toward the bravery of those riders. The dreadful conditions and the severity of the track surface toward the end of the main race did not come over on the television pictures. Seeing Edwards throttle pinned out of Starkey's and up into Schwantz, losing and saving the front, then subsequently defiantly fending off DePuniet and peeling out of that section with the same commitment in the dying laps of the race in ever deteriorating conditions - on slicks - that's what you part with your money for - and it's at times like these that you really appreciate first hand why they earn it. Rog's point about the necessity of intermediates is so compelling -why does no one act..there are lives at risk here.

I can't emphasize enough what great company Rog, Bonnie and Wills are, and racing aside, that's really what it's all about. Special thanks to Rog and Bonnie for taking a detour back into the thick of the race traffic to get me home, when a more direct route their way was possible. And thanks Rog for not leaving me roadside when I had to leap out for a piss in full view of the despairing blonde nurse in the car behind!
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I blame the flimsy bladder and old age eh Rog?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jul 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks Jum - can't really say I needed rest, when I live 28 miles from the circuit, but then after qualifying on Saturday I went to a BBQ in the next village which degenerated into the usual bacchanalian debauchery, and didn't get to sleep until 2.00 am, then got up at 4.a.m - had to meet Rog at a service station on the M1 but my planned lift to get me there never materialised due to the fact that everyone was still comatosed. Grabbed a cab and was there with the big man and Bonnie at 6.00 as planned - so after two hours sleep felt like I'd just stepped off a dozen transatlantic flights instead of a 15 minute cab ride to the motorway. One can of Relentless, a bottle of wife beater and and infusion of Ska from 'DJ- Chopperman' on the car stereo and I felt ready for the day, and enthused with anticipation at the thought of Rog and Bonnie hearing the sound of these wonderful machines unleashed and barreling toward them down Craners. Actually I'd rung Rog the day before trackside during the morning practice session - the sound of a Desmosedici on full song hammering down Craners as a wake up call - (he was still in bed at the time!)

Rog's bladder, that morning, having the integrity of Alberto Puig and the constitution durability/stamina of Casey, meant that we eventually after several pit stops, made our way out field courtesy of the new tunnel at McCleans and parked our arses between Starkey's and Schwantz, where more beer was had by all. Poor Bonnie had been acting as sherpa for Rog's alcohol provisions, and so we willingly lightened the load - in my case begrudgingly (in view of the night before) when, unsurprisingly, more Stella proved to be the contents - an' if you know Rog, then you'll understand that he's not a man that tends to take no for an answer
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). Because of the night before I was topping up, and felt like I'd been fed some of Rog's Special brew by intravenous drip for the past 24 hrs. Actually, Rog was less than impressed by my Bombadier Bitter, which I'd found lying around at the end of the party I'd been at - they're so inoffensive, I suppose they'd been forgotten about as opposed to discarded, so I scooped them up and added them to my next day stash. Rog was similarly underwhelmed when I unveiled my pasta breakfast, but after sampling some of his Tandori Chicken pack up, like Special brew vs Bombadier, it's a little like making comparisons between a party popper and a 21 gun salute. I swear this was still repeating on me 24 hrs later, my arse is burbling on the overrun like a GSV exhaust system (and I only had a morsel of the stuff). Anyway, sensing that I was lamely punching like an apparent lightweight, I was keen to point out that his hero would also later be similarly indulging in a light lunch of pasta, but Rog immediately countered with the fact that he wouldn't because fat ....... Uccio had probably exhausted all the Fiat Yamaha hospitality by Friday dinner. Anyway, in my defence, I had a speed camera workshop to attend the next day, and I was a mite wary about turning up on an r1 with a small plate, black visor and a race can -breath smelling like the Park Royal Brewery, with a hint of strong curry.

I must at this point highlight the fact that I have relinquished ownership of a Canon EOS due to domestic circumstances, so official photographers for this event were Rog, Bonnie and Willski. I am also aware that this post should belong in the last Doni - so maybe Jane, Frost, Ben or Dazza would obligingly move it there for me at some point
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On the subject of which, Rog has bagged some excellent shots, following an altercation with several punters and the wire fence which I'll leave him to explain.

Wills having valiantly and heroically fended off the mayhem outside the circuit soon materialised, and another beer was had by all. Great to meet a very knowledgable like-minded racefan, who like Rog and Bonnie don't need to cower behind Google or take refuge inside their internet anonymity and are keen to share their passion for the sport and have a good crack in the process.

Perched on the hill, we awaited the races buffeted by a very strong westerly. Incidentally, Rog's chair was equipped with drink holder - (or two), mine was a cheaper more inferior version, which I hoped Bonnie would substitute when Rog dropped me off - but he was already on to the ruse. Being bereft of an armrest with a can holder is never going to be a garanteur of sobriety in the presence of Rog - or given the large stash of ale which we brought.

Regarding the race, there's nothing much I can add to the excellent observations and discussions already present on this thread. I managed to call the 125 and the 250 races - although, the 125 race being so chaotic doesn't really count, and I would never have predicted the win that Espagaro was so cruelly denied. Aoyama, I favoured because of the conditions, and what a championship ride that was. I completely ballsed up the main race prediction. I beleived that Vale would be unbeatable in the dodgy conditions, but if the track fully dried, then Dani would've cleared off. As a massive long term fan of Dovi, I knew that he loves this place, and that he had secured wins in the 125 and 250 classes but I really didn't see him bagging his first race win, and was privileged to be present.

Being at such close quarters to the racing, I can only convey the awe that we all felt toward the bravery of those riders. The dreadful conditions and the severity of the track surface toward the end of the main race did not come over on the television pictures. Seeing Edwards throttle pinned out of Starkey's and up into Schwantz, losing and saving the front, then subsequently defiantly fending off DePuniet and peeling out of that section with the same commitment in the dying laps of the race in ever deteriorating conditions - on slicks - that's what you part with your money for - and it's at times like these that you really appreciate first hand why they earn it. Rog's point about the necessity of intermediates is so compelling -why does no one act..there are lives at risk here.

I can't emphasize enough what great company Rog, Bonnie and Wills are, and racing aside, that's really what it's all about. Special thanks to Rog and Bonnie for taking a detour back into the thick of the race traffic to get me home, when a more direct route their way was possible. And thanks Rog for not leaving me roadside when I had to leap out for a piss in full view of the despairing blonde nurse in the car behind!
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I blame the flimsy bladder and old age eh Rog?


The parts I like I decided to highlight above. Wow, poetry man, straight poetry!

So glad you had a great time. Awesome!
 
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great post arrab, bought back a few memorys for some other storys
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im privileged to have met several members of powerslide.net inc you and willski over the last 3 years and made friends for life i hope. It doesn't matter how much you think you no, you will always learn new thing's and have great fun. all it takes is to open up and share your passion. Still the next time boys !
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jul 27 2009, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks Jum - can't really say I needed rest, when I live 28 miles from the circuit, but then after qualifying on Saturday I went to a BBQ in the next village which degenerated into the usual bacchanalian debauchery, and didn't get to sleep until 2.00 am, then got up at 4.a.m - had to meet Rog at a service station on the M1 but my planned lift to get me there never materialised due to the fact that everyone was still comatosed. Grabbed a cab and was there with the big man and Bonnie at 6.00 as planned - so after two hours sleep felt like I'd just stepped off a dozen transatlantic flights instead of a 15 minute cab ride to the motorway. One can of Relentless, a bottle of wife beater and and infusion of Ska from 'DJ- Chopperman' on the car stereo and I felt ready for the day, and enthused with anticipation at the thought of Rog and Bonnie hearing the sound of these wonderful machines unleashed and barreling toward them down Craners. Actually I'd rung Rog the day before trackside during the morning practice session - the sound of a Desmosedici on full song hammering down Craners as a wake up call - (he was still in bed at the time!)

Rog's bladder, that morning, having the integrity of Alberto Puig and the constitution durability/stamina of Casey, meant that we eventually after several pit stops, made our way out field courtesy of the new tunnel at McCleans and parked our arses between Starkey's and Schwantz, where more beer was had by all. Poor Bonnie had been acting as sherpa for Rog's alcohol provisions, and so we willingly lightened the load - in my case begrudgingly (in view of the night before) when, unsurprisingly, more Stella proved to be the contents - an' if you know Rog, then you'll understand that he's not a man that tends to take no for an answer
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). Because of the night before I was topping up, and felt like I'd been fed some of Rog's Special brew by intravenous drip for the past 24 hrs. Actually, Rog was less than impressed by my Bombadier Bitter, which I'd found lying around at the end of the party I'd been at - they're so inoffensive, I suppose they'd been forgotten about as opposed to discarded, so I scooped them up and added them to my next day stash. Rog was similarly underwhelmed when I unveiled my pasta breakfast, but after sampling some of his Tandori Chicken pack up, like Special brew vs Bombadier, it's a little like making comparisons between a party popper and a 21 gun salute. I swear this was still repeating on me 24 hrs later, my arse is burbling on the overrun like a GSV exhaust system (and I only had a morsel of the stuff). Anyway, sensing that I was lamely punching like an apparent lightweight, I was keen to point out that his hero would also later be similarly indulging in a light lunch of pasta, but Rog immediately countered with the fact that he wouldn't because fat ....... Uccio had probably exhausted all the Fiat Yamaha hospitality by Friday dinner. Anyway, in my defence, I had a speed camera workshop to attend the next day, and I was a mite wary about turning up on an r1 with a small plate, black visor and a race can -breath smelling like the Park Royal Brewery, with a hint of strong curry.

I must at this point highlight the fact that I have relinquished ownership of a Canon EOS due to domestic circumstances, so official photographers for this event were Rog, Bonnie and Willski. I am also aware that this post should belong in the last Doni - so maybe Jane, Frost, Ben or Dazza would obligingly move it there for me at some point
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On the subject of which, Rog has bagged some excellent shots, following an altercation with several punters and the wire fence which I'll leave him to explain.

Wills having valiantly and heroically fended off the mayhem outside the circuit soon materialised, and another beer was had by all. Great to meet a very knowledgable like-minded racefan, who like Rog and Bonnie don't need to cower behind Google or take refuge inside their internet anonymity and are keen to share their passion for the sport and have a good crack in the process.

Perched on the hill, we awaited the races buffeted by a very strong westerly. Incidentally, Rog's chair was equipped with drink holder - (or two), mine was a cheaper more inferior version, which I hoped Bonnie would substitute when Rog dropped me off - but he was already on to the ruse. Being bereft of an armrest with a can holder is never going to be a garanteur of sobriety in the presence of Rog - or given the large stash of ale which we brought.

Regarding the race, there's nothing much I can add to the excellent observations and discussions already present on this thread. I managed to call the 125 and the 250 races - although, the 125 race being so chaotic doesn't really count, and I would never have predicted the win that Espagaro was so cruelly denied. Aoyama, I favoured because of the conditions, and what a championship ride that was. I completely ballsed up the main race prediction. I beleived that Vale would be unbeatable in the dodgy conditions, but if the track fully dried, then Dani would've cleared off. As a massive long term fan of Dovi, I knew that he loves this place, and that he had secured wins in the 125 and 250 classes but I really didn't see him bagging his first race win, and was privileged to be present.

Being at such close quarters to the racing, I can only convey the awe that we all felt toward the bravery of those riders. The dreadful conditions and the severity of the track surface toward the end of the main race did not come over on the television pictures. Seeing Edwards throttle pinned out of Starkey's and up into Schwantz, losing and saving the front, then subsequently defiantly fending off DePuniet and peeling out of that section with the same commitment in the dying laps of the race in ever deteriorating conditions - on slicks - that's what you part with your money for - and it's at times like these that you really appreciate first hand why they earn it. Rog's point about the necessity of intermediates is so compelling -why does no one act..there are lives at risk here.

I can't emphasize enough what great company Rog, Bonnie and Wills are, and racing aside, that's really what it's all about. Special thanks to Rog and Bonnie for taking a detour back into the thick of the race traffic to get me home, when a more direct route their way was possible. And thanks Rog for not leaving me roadside when I had to leap out for a piss in full view of the despairing blonde nurse in the car behind!
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I blame the flimsy bladder and old age eh Rog?

It was great meeting up. Really enjoyed the company. Nice people with a real passion and knowledge of all things bike racing....

Arrabi, your Aoyama call was spot on ...Your sandwiches weren't
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