donnington race

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 27 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That was Ralf Waldman!!
As Rog has said, we were sat outfield at Starkeys, and this happened right in front of us, as did Toni's horrendous looking get off. This is quite funny, because I had no idea that Ralf was racing and I was joking with Willski about someone doing a Ralf Waldeman this weekend, not realising we were unwittingly watching him out there in the race.

Great day, and great, great company in the form of Rog, Bonnie and Willski.

Stevo - sounds like you were directly opposite us.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Jul 27 2009, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>c,mon Jum I'm ready! put your bias gloves on
I have little argument with the remainder of this post but despite your demonstrated ability to retrieve the dictionary definition of bias I am not sure you have totally grasped the concept, and in particular the extremely low likelihood of its absence in any poster on what is essentially a fan internet forum .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jul 27 2009, 02:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Truth is Rossi just can't get it right can he?
If he tries for the win, he's greedy.
If he sits back and takes the cautious route, then he's just cruising around for the points (which we all know is not worthy behaviour from a champion).

After his race Valentino did say, when his race tactic and attitude were questioned, that he simply used the same attitude as always, and that's the attitude that has won him 101 races.

Says it all methinks.

He did say that with hindsight he should've let Dovi lead, and that around the time of the crash he was considering letting him pass only he crashed before he got round to it. And he did add that he bike was a very good girl to fall so well and not get hurt!!!

Valentino Rossi - Position: 5th Time: +0'21.622
"Once Jorge had crashed I was riding to win, as is always my style. In hindsight maybe I should have let Dovizioso pass me for a while but it was difficult to judge in such strange conditions. Riding in the rain with slick tyres is always a risk and it was quite slippery, the turns on the left were all wet which made the left side of the tyre cold and that's why I crashed. Luckily it was a slow fall and my bike wasn't hurt much. In fact, my bike was 'bravissima' today, both before and after the crash! After that we made a great recovery, I chose to remain with slick tyres despite the rain and the result was eleven points, which are like gold dust for us because we have extended the lead despite what happened here and we're going on holiday with a good advantage over our rivals. Finally I want to say well done to Dovi but especially to Colin, who rode like a devil today!"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 27 2009, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True, lowsides from the lead are really never impressive, are they?
That said, it's got nothing to do with the situation of his championship competitors. You should know better than talking about calculator in that situation with Rossi.
He will always go for the win and only when considered impossible he settle for anything less. It's not a thought process in the moment, it's a part of his personality.
For me it's one of the main reasons to be a fan and no doubt the most important factor why he still is motivated and fighting for his 9th championship. It all comes down to his will to win.

Sorry I was away at a Casey Stoner Support Group this weekend. Did I miss anything? I think I am starting to come around, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid. Also I heard that Valentino single handedly picked his own bike up, on wet grass. WOW! He must be the strongest man in the entire world. All hail Valentino Rossi and kiss his Pinky ring!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 27 2009, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry I was away at a Casey Stoner Support Group this weekend. Did I miss anything? I think I am starting to come around, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid. I also heard that Valentino single handedly picked his own bike up, on wet grass. WOW! He must be the strongest man in the entire world. All hail Valentino Rossi and kiss his pinky ring!
ahhhhhh pinky 'official ducati weatherman' plonker has not been seen....

I'm bummed that rossi crashed but honestly there is no better race for him to crash out of. His real rivals were no threat so they werent going to gain anything on him. Sucks that he crashed, but he recovered well and most importantly didnt lose anything to his rivals

THE BBC HAPPY TOO.

The BBC had a record audience for yesterday’s dramatic British MotoGP race at Donington Park.

Audience figures peaked at 2.9 million viewers as an enthralling 30-lap race unfolded, with the BBC reporting an impressive average audience share of 23 per cent.

The average audience for the race, which saw Andrea Dovizioso claim a maiden MotoGP victory after Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo both crashed out of the lead, was 2.8m.

The viewing figures represent a stunning 50 per cent increase on the Beeb’s normal MotoGP audience. And the figures smash the previous best average audience by a million viewers.

MotoGP series producer Belinda Moore told MCN: “These record-breaking figures are outstanding and highlight the huge popularity that MotoGP has in the UK.

"The BBC is delighted with these fantastic viewing figures because it means that MotoGP is being exposed to a much more mainstream audience, and that has always been one of the key objectives in our long and successful partnership with Dorna.”

The later race start at 3.30pm is one reason for the huge surge in viewers, with the race delayed from to accommodate the Hungarian Formula One race.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Jul 27 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>THE BBC HAPPY TOO.

The BBC had a record audience for yesterday’s dramatic British MotoGP race at Donington Park.

Audience figures peaked at 2.9 million viewers as an enthralling 30-lap race unfolded, with the BBC reporting an impressive average audience share of 23 per cent.

The average audience for the race, which saw Andrea Dovizioso claim a maiden MotoGP victory after Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo both crashed out of the lead, was 2.8m.

The viewing figures represent a stunning 50 per cent increase on the Beeb’s normal MotoGP audience. And the figures smash the previous best average audience by a million viewers.

MotoGP series producer Belinda Moore told MCN: “These record-breaking figures are outstanding and highlight the huge popularity that MotoGP has in the UK.

"The BBC is delighted with these fantastic viewing figures because it means that MotoGP is being exposed to a much more mainstream audience, and that has always been one of the key objectives in our long and successful partnership with Dorna.”

The later race start at 3.30pm is one reason for the huge surge in viewers, with the race delayed from to accommodate the Hungarian Formula One race.

They will never give motogp credit and air time it deserves unlike tennis and golf and even a ......' dog show last year and hardly ever mention it on the news

Significant work to do' at Suzuki

Even tricky weather conditions at Donington Park couldn't transform the fortunes of Rizla Suzuki riders Loris Capirossi and Chris Vermeulen who, after qualifying 13th and 14h, went on to finish the race eleventh (Capirossi) and 13th (Vermeulen).

While rain master Vermeulen surprisingly ran outside the top ten throughout, Capirossi had been as high as sixth, but both suffered when they joined two other riders in pitting for a wet weather bike. The heavier rain never fully materialised and they were thus unable to reclaim the time lost in the pits.

"It has been a difficult British Grand Prix for us and there is no reason to pretend otherwise,” said team manager Paul Denning. “Today's crazy conditions gave us an opportunity to level the playing field.

“In the early laps it looked like Loris and his bike were working well and he managed to force his way up to sixth. His gamble to follow Melandri in and pit for tyres could have easily have paid off if it had rained hard, but the rain eased off almost immediately and he wasn't able to capitalise on the wet tyres.

"Chris had an extremely challenging GP and struggled to generate any feeling or confidence the whole weekend.

“We now have some significant work to do to improve the bike's sensitivity to weather and track conditions and allow the riders to get the best out of themselves,” he conceded.

Suzuki (2-bikes) is now just ten points ahead of Kawasaki, represented only by the unofficial Hayate entry ( 1 bike ) of Melandri, in the 2009 MotoGP Constructors' Championship.

THATS BAD ^^ I REALLY HOPE THEY DONT CALL IT A DAY AFTER THIS YEAR AND DONT RUN IN 2010.?

Suzuki got to be peed off with there results in recent times
If this was to happen the Motogp grid would struggle for Championship status

Are they contracted to Dorna FOR 2010.?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jul 27 2009, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Truth is Rossi just can't get it right can he?
If he tries for the win, he's greedy.
If he sits back and takes the cautious route, then he's just cruising around for the points (which we all know is not worthy behaviour from a champion).

Hi BG, we've missed you. Hows the little one? Hope all good.

Oh, as far as Vale, yes you are right, he just can't get it right--just like Stoner, just like Hayden previous to him. Its just these riders can never get it right as long as we have fans of the other guy, eh. We've had a new string of Rossi mindless joining lately, they have been in full swing the last month (after being energized with Rossi's fantastic wins), and I have been having a little fun with them. Its amazing what they will say when energized to blindly argue that he can do no wrong (even here after a crash, its like it didn't happen), or worse, the other guy is a piece of crap for XYZ. Nothing different than what your saying above sweetheart.

Anyway, I didn't response to the Ducati's decision thing because I've pretty much covered it. It really won't mater where logic sits on these issues, 'some' people are going to continue to stick their heads up their ..... anyway. I'm just glad there are reasonable Rossi fans out there. So we'll leave it at that.

Always a pleasure reading your takes (even the wrong ones)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 27 2009, 06:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry I was away at a Casey Stoner Support Group this weekend. Did I miss anything? I think I am starting to come around, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid. Also I heard that Valentino single handedly picked his own bike up, on wet grass. WOW! He must be the strongest man in the entire world.


Its funny, but when I saw him pick up his bike I though of you buddy. I tried to look to see his muscle tone through those leathers but I just couldn't. Man, I really need to get that lasik eye surgery.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 27 2009, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wow, didn't get back until late last night. ive not read all the posts yet but i gather a lot think the ducati wet tyre choice was a mistake or silly.

casey said "every lap was threatening to put enough rain down to use the wet's" and that pretty much sums it up imo.
the weather was ....... weird, the rain to start with was like hanging in the air rather than going on the track to start with. i thought the ducati gamble would pay off but the rain didnt really start to settle on track until about 11 laps to go. by then the wets were destroyed. by about 7 laps to go it was getting pretty dangrous , riders were dropping like flys, but again the track would start to dry again so not suitable for wets or slicks. imo this race proved the need for intermediate tyres. This is a saftey issue and dorna should force bridgstone to act.

some of the marshalling was questionable too. we were sat at starkeys, and a 250's a rider went down (white bike) think it may have been a wild card. he was out cold. he came round got on his bike and tried to re start the race. the marshals push him on his bike back on the track right on the racing line nearly getting him killed. how the other bikes missed his was unbelievable.

i will post storys and pics in the last donny thread later.
Welcome back compa. Get some rest. Can't wait to read and see pics. Start your own thread.

I agree with your takes btw, great to hear it from somebody who was actually there.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jul 27 2009, 05:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As Rog has said, we were sat outfield at Starkeys, and this happened right in front of us, as did Toni's horrendous looking get off. This is quite funny, because I had no idea that Ralf was racing and I was joking with Willski about someone doing a Ralf Waldeman this weekend, not realising we were unwittingly watching him out there in the race.

Great day, and great, great company in the form of Rog, Bonnie and Willski.

Stevo - sounds like you were directly opposite us.

Welcome back Arrabi. Can't wait to read your takes and pics. I heard it was cold and wet. Ah, sounds lovely--looks like you missed out Clarky boy! Hahaha.

Get some rest.

Just copied this from another thread. Interesting in that this guy Waldmann actually did (in 2000) what Stoner hoped to accomplish at Donnington in 2009.

One of the most memorable moments of his career came at Donnington Park in 2000. Running on wet tyres on a drying track, Waldmann trailed the leaders by over a minute with just five laps remaining. But as rain started to fall, he came through to claim a sensational victory at the final corner from Frenchman Olivier Jacque by just over 0.3s.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Welcome back compa. Get some rest. Can't wait to read and see pics. Start your own thread.

I agree with your takes btw, great to hear it from somebody who was actually there.

posting in thins thread.

linky

nice avi johnny

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 27 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just copied this from another thread. Interesting in that this guy Waldmann actually did (in 2000) what Stoner hoped to accomplish at Donnington in 2009.

One of the most memorable moments of his career came at Donnington Park in 2000. Running on wet tyres on a drying track, Waldmann trailed the leaders by over a minute with just five laps remaining. But as rain started to fall, he came through to claim a sensational victory at the final corner from Frenchman Olivier Jacque by just over 0.3s.

Didn't know this, thanks. Wow, so this wasn't something somebody just pullout out of their ..., there is actually history.

As I said, yes, it was a gamble, but a calculated risk. It didn't pay off, granted, but to rubbish it as people who are stupid or silly was not entirely correct (regardless of results). The Yamaha guys took a risk too, one also plaid the price (lucky for Rossi he was able to continue). This doesn't make his gamble on staying on slick stupid does it? It doesn't make Rossi ........ does it? NO. So this same logic should apply to Ducati. But you won't convince some, since it seems what ever the rivals do is just wrong.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didn't know this, thanks. Wow, so this wasn't something somebody just pullout out of their ..., there is actually history.

As I said, yes, it was a gamble, but a calculated risk. It didn't pay off, granted, but to rubbish it as people who are stupid or silly was not entirely correct (regardless of results). The Yamaha guys took a risk too, one also plaid the price (lucky for Rossi he was able to continue). This doesn't make his gamble on staying on slick stupid does it? It doesn't make Rossi ........ does it? NO. So this same logic should apply to Ducati. But you won't convince some, since it seems what ever the rivals do is just wrong.
As i sais earlier , imo this race proved the need for intermediate tyres. This is a saftey issue and dorna should force bridgstone to act.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 27 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As i sais earlier , imo this race proved the need for intermediate tyres. This is a saftey issue and dorna should force bridgstone to act.
I completely agree!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As I said, yes, it was a gamble, but a calculated risk. It didn't pay off, granted, but to rubbish it as people who are stupid or silly was not entirely correct (regardless of results). The Yamaha guys took a risk too, one also plaid the price (lucky for Rossi he was able to continue). This doesn't make his gamble on staying on slick stupid does it? It doesn't make Rossi ........ does it? NO. So this same logic should apply to Ducati. But you won't convince some, since it seems what ever the rivals do is just wrong.

Hey Jumkie, do you play poker? Cause if you do I'll bring the cards to Indy. I may lose a few hands but as long as I have the most chips in the end, I'll be the winner.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>

Its funny, but when I saw him pick up his bike I though of you buddy. I tried to look to see his muscle tone through those leathers but I just couldn't. Man, I really need to get that lasik eye surgery.

When it happened I was thinking of keshav, gaz, and a couple of other gay-tards.