<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Aug 18 2008, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah it is possible. Just remember the whole hayden pedrosa debacle. Then when we got to Valencia Rossi crashed out and voila the impossible just became possible. On a side note when writing this I remembered Haydens face when he won and that look was just aweful. I guess I will love to see that if he is winning for Ducati next year. I am a big fan but, .... I will be one of his biggest fans if he is on a Duc. I'll be yellin come on sour puss win face!!
do you remember his track side dance when he won
priceless but dont give up your day job
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Aug 18 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'd like to see a couple of more riders in there helpin to burn the barn.
My bloke Hayden will be puttin` fuel on the fire,brother.
My bloke Hayden will be puttin` fuel on the fire,brother.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Helix @ Aug 18 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not sure if this belongs in here, but for anyone interested these are the day one testing times:
1 Casey Stoner Ducati 1'56.261 52 laps
2 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'57.332 28 laps
3 Toni Elias Ducati 1'57.457 49 laps
4 Shinya Nakano Honda 1'57.652 33 laps
5 Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1'57.742 79 laps
6 Colin Edwards Yamaha 1'57.742 59 laps
7 Alex de Angelis Honda 1'57.826 68 laps
8 Sylvain Guintoli Ducati 1'57.859 54 laps
9 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'57.979 65 laps
10 Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1'58.177 17 laps
11 Niccolo Canepa Ducati 1'58.204 60 laps
12 Marco Melandri Ducati 1'58.325 69 laps
13 Randy de Puniet Honda 1'58.568 56 laps
14 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'59.067 5 laps
15 Olivier Jacque Kawasaki 1'59.130 8 laps
16 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1'59.172 21 laps
17 James Toseland Yamaha 1'59.228 45 laps
18 John Hopkins Kawasaki 2'00.414 4 laps
19 Tady Okada Honda 2'00.735 62 laps
Yes it does!
Rossi won ,did a fantastic race.Stoner overrode his bike,didn't have the setting right for that speed,and made a mistake.End of story!
These test times maybe tell a little about what the race would look like if there was no rain on the weekend.Well we will see tomorrow.Even if far from every rider is going for that one extra fast lap in race setup in a test,they all want to be fast.That lap by Stoner looks like something he did after the Valencia race 2007.
Interresting for the races to come...
1 Casey Stoner Ducati 1'56.261 52 laps
2 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'57.332 28 laps
3 Toni Elias Ducati 1'57.457 49 laps
4 Shinya Nakano Honda 1'57.652 33 laps
5 Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1'57.742 79 laps
6 Colin Edwards Yamaha 1'57.742 59 laps
7 Alex de Angelis Honda 1'57.826 68 laps
8 Sylvain Guintoli Ducati 1'57.859 54 laps
9 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'57.979 65 laps
10 Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1'58.177 17 laps
11 Niccolo Canepa Ducati 1'58.204 60 laps
12 Marco Melandri Ducati 1'58.325 69 laps
13 Randy de Puniet Honda 1'58.568 56 laps
14 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'59.067 5 laps
15 Olivier Jacque Kawasaki 1'59.130 8 laps
16 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1'59.172 21 laps
17 James Toseland Yamaha 1'59.228 45 laps
18 John Hopkins Kawasaki 2'00.414 4 laps
19 Tady Okada Honda 2'00.735 62 laps
Yes it does!
Rossi won ,did a fantastic race.Stoner overrode his bike,didn't have the setting right for that speed,and made a mistake.End of story!
These test times maybe tell a little about what the race would look like if there was no rain on the weekend.Well we will see tomorrow.Even if far from every rider is going for that one extra fast lap in race setup in a test,they all want to be fast.That lap by Stoner looks like something he did after the Valencia race 2007.
Interresting for the races to come...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 18 2008, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>stoner has shown he is capable but in this case all he can do is try and win the remaining races and hope rossi dnf's or finish's at the back. stoner needs to win the remaining six and rossi concede 20 points which is quite possible with 6 races to go.
True.I wonder if Rossi is quietly gunning to get the same amount of wins Stoner had last season (10).Itll be a tall order given that the most hes won before is 9 (correct me here if im wrong peeps)in 2003 on RCV and 05 on the M1??Just to prove something,its Valentino after all.Hekll struggle to get 125 points ahead or w/e it was casey had.Unless casey gets confused and thinks its 2006 all over again...
True.I wonder if Rossi is quietly gunning to get the same amount of wins Stoner had last season (10).Itll be a tall order given that the most hes won before is 9 (correct me here if im wrong peeps)in 2003 on RCV and 05 on the M1??Just to prove something,its Valentino after all.Hekll struggle to get 125 points ahead or w/e it was casey had.Unless casey gets confused and thinks its 2006 all over again...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anders GUZZI @ Aug 18 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes it does!
Rossi won ,did a fantastic race.Stoner overrode his bike,didn't have the setting right for that speed,and made a mistake.End of story!
These test times maybe tell a little about what the race would look like if there was no rain on the weekend.Well we will see tomorrow.Even if far from every rider is going for that one extra fast lap in race setup in a test,they all want to be fast.That lap by Stoner looks like something he did after the Valencia race 2007.
Interresting for the races to come...
Marco is over 2 seconds slower than Stoner. Ducati should really have the 2 go on track and let Stoner lead, Marco Follow and see where he is losing time. Then maybe he can try and adjust his riding style/setup and see if he improves any. Doesn't matter now anyways, but makes you wonder where those 2 seconds went... seeing as how Marco is suppose to be a world class rider.
Rossi won ,did a fantastic race.Stoner overrode his bike,didn't have the setting right for that speed,and made a mistake.End of story!
These test times maybe tell a little about what the race would look like if there was no rain on the weekend.Well we will see tomorrow.Even if far from every rider is going for that one extra fast lap in race setup in a test,they all want to be fast.That lap by Stoner looks like something he did after the Valencia race 2007.
Interresting for the races to come...
Marco is over 2 seconds slower than Stoner. Ducati should really have the 2 go on track and let Stoner lead, Marco Follow and see where he is losing time. Then maybe he can try and adjust his riding style/setup and see if he improves any. Doesn't matter now anyways, but makes you wonder where those 2 seconds went... seeing as how Marco is suppose to be a world class rider.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thom @ Aug 18 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True.I wonder if Rossi is quietly gunning to get the same amount of wins Stoner had last season (10).Itll be a tall order given that the most hes won before is 9 (correct me here if im wrong peeps)in 2003 on RCV and 05 on the M1??Just to prove something,its Valentino after all.Hekll struggle to get 125 points ahead or w/e it was casey had.Unless casey gets confused and thinks its 2006 all over again...
2002 - 11 Victories, first year of the 990's
2005 - 11 Victories
2002 - 11 Victories, first year of the 990's
2005 - 11 Victories
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Aug 18 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>2002 - 11 Victories, first year of the 990's
2005 - 11 Victories
i new all along you were a closet rossi fan
2005 - 11 Victories
i new all along you were a closet rossi fan
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Aug 18 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Marco is over 2 seconds slower than Stoner. Ducati should really have the 2 go on track and let Stoner lead, Marco Follow and see where he is losing time. Then maybe he can try and adjust his riding style/setup and see if he improves any. Doesn't matter now anyways, but makes you wonder where those 2 seconds went... seeing as how Marco is suppose to be a world class rider.
That time set by Stoner is quite fast though.It would have been a front row start in 2006 qualifying or something!
Yeah,good idear.I'm sure they have tried something like that though ,they must have so he can see the lines Stoner are riding in.They have all the data from each rider and can tell exactly when he turned the throttle or braked,the speed in,in the middle and going out of a turn and tons of other things i don't even know the name of i'm sure.They have analysed his riding for almost a year now.This is why i'm so surprised by his preformance.
But as Suppo has said himself ,a difference that big isn't only the bike or set up.It's more motivation.
I'm sure Marco is a great rider on a Honda,but i can't say he is the fastest learner or the best one at adapting.
That time set by Stoner is quite fast though.It would have been a front row start in 2006 qualifying or something!
Yeah,good idear.I'm sure they have tried something like that though ,they must have so he can see the lines Stoner are riding in.They have all the data from each rider and can tell exactly when he turned the throttle or braked,the speed in,in the middle and going out of a turn and tons of other things i don't even know the name of i'm sure.They have analysed his riding for almost a year now.This is why i'm so surprised by his preformance.
But as Suppo has said himself ,a difference that big isn't only the bike or set up.It's more motivation.
I'm sure Marco is a great rider on a Honda,but i can't say he is the fastest learner or the best one at adapting.
Marco was again slowest Ducati, slower than his teammate (Stoner 1st), slower than satellite Ducatis (Elias 3rd, Guintoli 8th) even slower than test rider Canepa. I've no idea why Ducati keep him on there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 18 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i new all along you were a closet rossi fan
He's okay
I relate it to the Michael Jordan era. Even though I was a fan of a different team and I hated when he would destroy them it was a pleasure to watch him work.
He's okay
I relate it to the Michael Jordan era. Even though I was a fan of a different team and I hated when he would destroy them it was a pleasure to watch him work.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Aug 19 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>F, being a 5 times champion doesn't make him an oracle. It's just plain stupid to take his word for it. He doesn't mind playing mind games allthough I don't think he did here, and while he said pressure might have something to do with it, he also clearly said that's what happens when you are down on points, and that was a very clear reference to his own experience.
If it's one thing these two guys have in common in their personality it's their competetivness. They want to win, and what ever pressure they have it's 99% self induced. That's not about choking or anything like that, it's about winners. Winners who couldn't care less if they end up second or tenth, it's only one position that is good enough and that's #1. In the situation Stoner were in before this weekend he had to beat Rossi to have any real hope of taking the championship, and when done is done I bet that's why he took it so easy afterwards too. He did what he had to do, failed in trying but at least tried. I respect that a lot.
F, So am I. Well you completely missed my point. I ain't letting Stoner down there. I am just a little pissed of with frosty's comment on his earlier post. Maybe it IS NOT the fact, but maybe it IS the fact. Who knows?
...And if you scroll the whole pages here, you will find NONE of my posts are letting Stoner down.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Aug 18 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and what just because he says it, it's fact.... please
You're right, maybe it isn't the fact..but who knows ? ..
If you give another rider a respect, try to respect another one.
If it's one thing these two guys have in common in their personality it's their competetivness. They want to win, and what ever pressure they have it's 99% self induced. That's not about choking or anything like that, it's about winners. Winners who couldn't care less if they end up second or tenth, it's only one position that is good enough and that's #1. In the situation Stoner were in before this weekend he had to beat Rossi to have any real hope of taking the championship, and when done is done I bet that's why he took it so easy afterwards too. He did what he had to do, failed in trying but at least tried. I respect that a lot.
F, So am I. Well you completely missed my point. I ain't letting Stoner down there. I am just a little pissed of with frosty's comment on his earlier post. Maybe it IS NOT the fact, but maybe it IS the fact. Who knows?
...And if you scroll the whole pages here, you will find NONE of my posts are letting Stoner down.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Aug 18 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and what just because he says it, it's fact.... please
You're right, maybe it isn't the fact..but who knows ? ..
If you give another rider a respect, try to respect another one.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Aug 18 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Marco was again slowest Ducati, slower than his teammate (Stoner 1st), slower than satellite Ducatis (Elias 3rd, Guintoli 8th) even slower than test rider Canepa. I've no idea why Ducati keep him on there.
Because Ducati wants an Italian rider to be on the team winning in the worst way. Plus Livio likes him and gets alomg with him very well. Read things he says and it is all right there. They will do ALMOST anything to get him to be on the top of the podium.
Because Ducati wants an Italian rider to be on the team winning in the worst way. Plus Livio likes him and gets alomg with him very well. Read things he says and it is all right there. They will do ALMOST anything to get him to be on the top of the podium.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ok... i'll give him his as i've done plenty of times.... but not for mind reading. what do you think because hes 5 times champ that he has such insight into the minds of his competitors that cause he sez it it's got to be fact? i suppose that if he said white is black you'd march right intune with him, proffesing his all knowing all seeing mind. take off yer glass's for once and take stoners fall for what it was, a simple mistake early in the race just as he was gettin into his rythm. you have a bright future in the cult of rossi...
And a simple mistake cause by......you'll (we'll) never know...
And a simple mistake cause by......you'll (we'll) never know...
Just got done comparing WSBK times and Bayliss would be pretty competitive out there on his Ducati
Not sure why Elias was talking about WSBK as being for losers and retirees.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 18 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
do you remember his track side dance when he won
priceless but dont give up your day job
LOL the Hayden dance!!! That was some funny ..... Hell if he wins on a Ducati we will all be subject to it. I should write to Ducati so that they can amend his new contract that states if he has a sour puss face and does the Hayden saftey dance he will be fined.
LOL the Hayden dance!!! That was some funny ..... Hell if he wins on a Ducati we will all be subject to it. I should write to Ducati so that they can amend his new contract that states if he has a sour puss face and does the Hayden saftey dance he will be fined.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Aug 19 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just got done comparing WSBK times and Bayliss would be pretty competitive out there on his Ducati
Not sure why Elias was talking about WSBK as being for losers and retirees.
Biaggi said pretty much the same thing. He said it in the movie faster and now look where he is. LOL. He isn't even at the top of the racers since he has been there. Ok some podiums and good lap times but he isn't as much of a badass as he thinks he is.
Biaggi said pretty much the same thing. He said it in the movie faster and now look where he is. LOL. He isn't even at the top of the racers since he has been there. Ok some podiums and good lap times but he isn't as much of a badass as he thinks he is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Aug 19 2008, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL the Hayden dance!!! That was some funny ..... Hell if he wins on a Ducati we will all be subject to it. I should write to Ducati so that they can amend his new contract that states if he has a sour puss face and does the Hayden saftey dance he will be fined.
if hayden wins a wc on the ducati i will do a dance with him
if hayden wins a wc on the ducati i will do a dance with him
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 19 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if hayden wins a wc on the ducati i will do a dance with him
LOL!!!!! ME TO!!! LOL!!! I will even eat a lemon so I can share in his JOY!!! LOL MY Sides hurt!!!
LOL!!!!! ME TO!!! LOL!!! I will even eat a lemon so I can share in his JOY!!! LOL MY Sides hurt!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Aug 19 2008, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL!!!!! ME TO!!! LOL!!! I will even eat a lemon so I can share in his JOY!!! LOL MY Sides hurt!!!
i will join you but being english i will eat a lime to get that dancing face
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