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Brno Race Discussion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 19 2008, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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i will join you but being english i will eat a lime to get that dancing face
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We'll have to take some pics cause that will be some priceless .....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Aug 19 2008, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dude, you are so wrong on this one. Rossi has to win the test.
Dude, you are so wrong on this one. Rossi has to win the championship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Aug 18 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dude, you are so wrong on this one. Rossi has to win the championship.
HE may have to but he won't.
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A hearty congratulations to the 5 time world champion. Rossi looked on the pace all weekend and rode the race he had to ride after Stoner crashed. It’s a pity that he did crash, as I reckon it would have been close all the way. Doesn’t matter though, Stoner crashed … you can’t contest a win from the gravel trap!

Great ride by Elias … he’ll be somewhere on the grid next year I think. I do believe this was an aberration though, as he is way too inconsistent.

What about Westy … where did that come from?! It’s amazing what a bit of confidence riding around somewhere close to the front does. I hope he can show a bit more of this form through the remaining races. I did think to myself after the race had finished (and he was back in his pit box) that it must have been a very long time since he has managed to crack a smile!

I’m disappointed CV couldn’t get a third straight podium but happy to see Loris up there on the blue machine (after having such a .... time of it of late)!

Michelin were the joke of the weekend. If it was Bridgestone, someone would surely have committed Hari Kari by now!
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The second French joke was “DePunt it down the road” … he is a serial crasher! I wonder if “De Punt” is the eternal optimist? Surely he can’t be thinking “2009 … Ducati and Bridgestone” History often repeats, but Livio wouldn’t be that stupid would he?!
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I actually missed Hayden being on the grid!

I wonder how Pedrosa will handle the rest of the season?! He must be low on confidence (and the will to fight) and gutted with what has happened over the past two months!

I hope they don’t mandate a single tyre rule. It looks like it will happen by default, so why bother enforcing it! Gotta leave the options open for someone else to take a risk and go for broke (especially a non-factory team).
 
Congrats to Rossi. He did what he was suppose to do. Now the title is his.

Good race for the podium position. All brands represented in the top 5, when was the last time that happened? To bad for Stoner. This mistake means the championship is over. I wonder how many unreasonable Rossi fans will say he (Rossi) was gifted a lucky title (since it has mostly been attrition of competitors)? You know, how they explained the last two years. Funny how life is, eh.

Well if Babel ever needed evidence (and I know he doesn't); then it can pretty much be reflected in the drastic difference in performance by Bstones and Mishitlins. Good thing Rossi was the only one to get his "request" for a change in tires, you know, to keep the "tire war" going. Ah, the parity in MotoGP is a joke, yet we manage to crown accolades where we see fit despite reality.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 17 2008, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>STONER DOWN.....WTF HE CHOKED
Now Stoner has something in common with Rossi. Both choked away a championship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morgo @ Aug 17 2008, 04:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can anyone tell me what happened to stoner? was it his fault or rossi's?
I'd say about the same as Valencia 06. You remember right?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 17 2008, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well boring race....back to normal i guess...bring on the sigle tire rule....Oh i bet Nick is laughing his ... off right now
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I thought the same thing. Interesting how Nakano did better than Dovi--the other factory rider to be supposedly. I think HRC should start looking at their tires rather than trying to make the bike any smaller. Its no wonder Peders does do well (when healthy), .... the guy is so light the tires are a non-issue. I think MotoGP direction should have given all Mishitlin riders a one lap head start to make it more interesting at the end.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Aug 17 2008, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Plenty of odd performances coming from unusual sources, and plenty to get excited about for the next race. Nakano has equaled Hayden's best result now and is just one point behind him in the championship, that puts Nickies season into some perspective a bit.
The only thing in "perspective" is you still posting with blinders.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Aug 17 2008, 05:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi sounded <u>very </u>confident at the post race interview about his pace. He was about to catch stoner no doubt about that. it doesn't mean he would have won but there would have been a figtht. Buuut as we know, stoner doesn't like fights so he made sure there wouldn't be any of that
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Well the interview we got, he said Stoner's pace was much better than his and felt he might not catch him. But your crystal ball already knew he would anyway, right.

As far as not liking fights, well it seems neither does Rossi...especially with Elias behind him, or did you forget his comments after Turkey?

O wait, you don't care about their comments right?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GeePee @ Aug 17 2008, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is Rossi now cruising or under prssure?
This is an interesting question. Perhaps my buddy Rog could answer it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kez_91 @ Aug 17 2008, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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@ Stoner

Put the kid under pressure and look what you get!
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It really goes to show that 12 year olds should remain in school!
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Haha. You are so funny. Stoner had "no" pressure at all last year, right. So are you saying pressure is why he choked and now this may have cost Stoner the title? Remind me of another person that this happened to please.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Aug 17 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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I do not think Stoner crashed because of so called psychological pressure.

Stoner crashed the way any rider can--because he was trying very hard to win, and that meant he had to ride to the very limit against another super-fast rider.

He had 25 points to recover, what other choices had he, but to try come what may? He took his risks, he did the right thing. He was riding beautifully, he didn't look stressed to me. Pity he binned it, because we would have had another duel at the end, I'm sure.

Rossi scored big time for the championship, but be assured that Stoner is going to be back with a vengeance, already at the next race at Misano, right in Rossi's courtyard. And now he has even less to lose... I'm expecting a very exciting race at Misano
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What a relief to read a post like this. This one wins the post of the thread award. I don't know why Rossi attracts a number of unreasonable fans (and they are predictably so); but like clock work, they have to come out with .... posts that are so full of double stand, so thick in .... that they never see it applies to their guy too. I've read: 'Stoner choked', by that definition so did Rossi, also read, Stoner doesn't like to battle, well then this applies to Rossi too, I read Rossi has the mental edge as if Stoner didn't hold up all year. Stoner had a DNF of no fault of his own to make up and we get people saying he should have not pushed so hard, or it was caused by some pressure from 2nd position who was over a second adrift? WTF? Of course Stoner has to leave it all on the track and risk if he had any hope of beating Rossi to the title.

I didn't post, not even once, on the Laguna thread because I've come to realize a very frustrating truth--that is a number of Rossi/Stoner fans in peculiar (not all of course, after all, some of my very best friends on this forum are reasonable Rossi fans) seem to always talk .... about who ever is the worthy competitor of their lord Rossi. Its why among them I had become somewhat of a nemesis, though despite them, I have grown to have a tremendous respect and admiration for both Rossi and Stoner. They are both worthy competitors with a strong will to win who are also human and make mistakes. Stoner made a big one this race and may have cost him the title (who knows) but so did Rossi a couple of years ago. They both rode the race they had to--Rossi 'cruising' in 2nd was nothing more than tactically and reasonably smart (assuming he could have even pushed to match Casey, since he went down pretty early). As far as the “luck” and “winning because somebody else crashed” well guess what, this time Rossi is the recipient of such luck and attrition. I bet the farm I won’t read any of them characterize Rossi’s title the way they did for the champs the last two years!

I suppose this doesn't change a thing. We will still have those on both sides that will spew unreasonable .....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Aug 17 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Valentino Rossi said that the pressure might of had something to do with Casey Stoner's fall when Mick Doohan interviewed him after the race. I believe so too, watching Stoner try to put a smirck/smile on his face in the garage lead me to believe he was putting up a front, trying to hide his rattled cage.... just my opinion. laps.

What might have been Rossi's explanation the last time this happened to him?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (coops @ Aug 17 2008, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lets face it Rossi is a legend!!!!!
He has missed out on being World Champion for two years now. Haydon never should have been World Champion, very lucky..............and Casey on the Ducati and Bridgetones was in a different league.

Need I say more? You see why I come out swinging at these types when I'm in the mood...


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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 19 2008, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Need I say more? You see why I come out swinging at these types when I'm in the mood...


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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 17 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well hayden did podium 10 times in his wc winning year and krjr 9 podiums in his. hayden having 2 wins 3 seconds and 5 thirds. krjr having 4 wins 4 seconds and 1 third. thats not forget how competitive it is just to get into the top 10 in this sport so the above feats are not to be belittled. this is a very old debate that not many here will be keen to engage in. look back 2 years and you will see this topic was done to death.

welcome to the forum by the way.

Thanks Rog. I was a bit frustrated tonight, but you pulled through buddy. I got sucked into it. Now I'm just laughing.

Yo, keep that bottle of woods on tap for me.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 19 2008, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haha. You are so funny. Stoner had "no" pressure at all last year, right. So are you saying pressure is why he choked and now this may have cost Stoner the title? Remind me of another person that this happened to please.
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IMHO neither Stoner at Brno last Sunday nor Rossi at Valencia 2006 'choked'.
These guys are not choke artists and they have demonstrated it beyond doubt race after race for years. Yes, they may crash--they may even crash in stupid ways and lose championships. That's all. Then all one can say is that they tried but binned it.
The 'choking' story sounds like an amateur psychologist's exercise... too easy, impossible to prove in itself, not supported by other facts
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 19 2008, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks Rog. I was a bit frustrated tonight, but you pulled through buddy. I got sucked into it. Now I'm just laughing.

Yo, keep that bottle of woods on tap for me.
i bought myself a new bottle on the boat when i came back from france the other week
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a load of drunken mexicans polished of the last one
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interestingly enough ,i didnt realize that woods is bottled in southampton
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any news on nickys foot, i think he did a similar injury to mine, ..... its painful and takes normally a year to heal
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Aug 17 2008, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's people like you who make non-Rossi fans hate the guy. How embarrassing.You're just lucky it's late on a Sunday night and I'm too tired to get my 'newbie shredding claws' out....but consider yourself warned.

Ah, I feel so much better now. Thanks BG.

Go Rossi!
Go Melandri!
Go Stoner!

GO HAYDEN!

(ah, .... it, GO EVERYBODY---uhm, except Peders, hey I got my limits)
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