Good slipstream to gain a second on a track with hardly any long straights. Also slipstreaming is when a rider passes on a straight, not in the middle of esses.
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Not even with Rossi's massive ego head could he blow a one second hole in the air for Marquez up the last hill. Also ou will find Marc was up from the second sector.
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Marc's 1 second advantage over Rossi wasn't entirely from the slipstream. It was a combination of him putting in a good lap, getting a slipstream, and Rossi getting held up in traffic. I think using Rossi as a reference and getting a good slipstream contributed to Marc knocking Lorenzo off pole.
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I would say just that on another forum, but since a select few here never give Rossi much credit when it's due, I'm forced to do the same for Marc.
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Nah, I must of missed the kick. But I did see him try and stuff Marc into turn one out of typical Rosspite. Marc wasn't trying to embarrass VR, he did that all on his own.
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Found a pic of VR kicking Pol's bike.
Use your wild imagination and you'll see the kick + Rossi flipping Pol the bird.
Brilliant Dubs, farken gold mate
Holy .... ............ you complimented JL ......... are you alright there MV?
As for the rest, seriously mate, give up on your 'this forum is against all that is yellow focus' as you are simply becoming as bitter as those against who you argue over what you perceive as their bitterness.
Suzuki cared ........... a lot.
Suzuki had a theory ............. and alluded to it.
They cared
So basically you want to argue for ego's sake?
So now you are doing exactly that which you mock others for doing?
Surely that was Rossi's shadow ........
The ....... is everywhere causing issues.
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Funny thing was Rossi still had another lap to try and improve his qualifying position, and what does he do? He tries to run MM wide because he was pissed off as usual, and in the process he ...... himself out of one final lap. Like I said, he handles pressure worse than any world champion I have ever seen.
Rossi's problem .......... maybe dashboard or radio communications need to be in order so that Rossi does not make that same mistake
Found a pic of VR kicking Pol's bike.
Use your wild imagination and you'll see the kick + Rossi flipping Pol the bird.
Why don't you post a picture of a haystack instead, as you have done nothing but run straw man arguments for most of this thread; I guess you have no choice but to do so since that is all you have.
It is you who is prone to invention including finding fault with reactions to incidents which haven't actually occurred. It was Suzuki, for whom Vinales is contracted to ride, who expressed disappointment about Vinales not managing pole that time in the circumstances which applied, and MM, one of the parties actually involved in the Sepang 2015 incident, who claimed to have been kicked, and the only doubt about Rossi's foot contacting MM's bike is whether it was volitional on Rossi's part.
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If this is so which is supposition good luck to Rossi, but it has nothing to do with MM. Neither VR nor MM was on a pole challenging lap, nor ever showed any sign of being able to approach such a lap-time, hence MM being able to catch them. Another difference from the Vinales/Rossi interaction come to think of it, since Vinales was provably capable of going much faster yet Rossi still managed to catch him despite it being hammer time in qualifying.
No, most riders don't try it because it almost invariably means that their lap is unsalvagably screwed anyway. It is then common for the rider affected to complain post session about their lap having been ruined by a dawdler/dawdlers, and I don't believe Rossi is any exception to this; such complaints are not necessarily without justification imo, btw.
MM as is his wont managed, ruthlessly (that word again) but safely imo, to salvage his situation, and his post race statement about having gained from slipstreaming, which apparently you believe supports whatever argument you are making (an argument I am yet to discern btw), was if anything imo an acknowledgement to Jorge Lorenzo that it had helped him beat Jorge's own stonking lap. I strongly doubt he ever considered Rossi a threat to his own pole lap or Jorge's lap, and he has made it abundantly clear for the last 10 months or so that he cares not a whit about Rossi's attitude to anything.
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He doesn't need to ............ it was you who claimed that VR was sitting there to not stuff up Pol's lap
It is just as likely that VR was sitting there because at the time he could not get past
Evo's point is that your assertion that VR did not want to upset Pol's lap is unlikely as if VR had reason, he would easily have challenged and upset Pol (reason being he was faster etc)
#46 is the most ruthless rider on the track, history has shown that to be the case but today he is matched by #93.
Both would sell their grandmother to achieve the required and desired result on the track.
If VR wanted to put a hard pass on in practice to prove a point against a rider, he would (recall Sepang last year when he 'buzzed' JL for example at the end of a practice session ignoring usual rider protocols)
Rule 46.4.6.a. clause MV of the rule book states that 'All riders must adhere to the no passing of a rider named Valentino when that rider is entering, within or exiting a corner.'
Rule 46.4.6.c states 'Rule 46.4.6.A clause MV is not to apply where riders are not named Valentino or where any rider named Valentino has waved a following rider past. For the definition of wave see subsection 'waves' under the 'DORNA Rules for Valentinos section'
OK, someone has actually said MM ruthlessly took advantage, which as I said is a fair cop.
So why NOT post insightful, intelligent and reasoned debate here?
And why is it that you feel Rossi MUST be given credit here?
The interesting point is that nobody forces you to post here, nor post your 'anti everything but Rossi' here, but yet you do so out of what ........... spite that some people do not worship at the right altar, or that they have a different opinion or non-conforming opinion that many masses have?
Nope, you are not forced at all, you choose to post your comments which makes you no better than those against whom you whinge .......... in actuality, you become the same just with a different message.
By all means continue but it is a shame as some time back when you first started here sure you were pro-VR but you also bought some good discussion where now you just copy and paste then change a few words.............
As for not giving Rossi credit - they all do, albeit sometimes begrudging but the likes against whom you carry-on have all complimented VR this year plus others.
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