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warthog1 said:
I don't mind that he struck out on his own also. I am sure there was a financial motivator in there too.

Regardless, the point is nobody is slower. That does not improve your employment prospects in an endeavor where the aim is to be fastest.
Slower than all of the others on the same bike at the back of the field is not a saving grace ;)
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The point is that relative slowness within the factory is not the problem he’s hired to solve, it’s relative slowness compared to the rest of the grid.

Riding like a bat out of hell is not the way to get there, riding without falling down and collecting data is. Even if it means going slower than everyone else.
 
Ugh. Stay away from MotoGP please.

I raced with the guy back in the day, he was a prick then, and is a prick now. Even more so with his 'poor man' rhetoric and going on about diversity, while not actually practising it himself.

Let me ask you something, does this photo taken in 1998 look like he had 'no money' when karting?

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synn said:
Given how unceremoniously he got dumped from Monster Yamaha, I’m not sure Pramac Yamaha will be Morbidelli’s first choice (Even though he seems to be keeping his options open).
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But clearly, he's not ruling Yamaha out if there are no better options. And, given his performance this year, I'm not sure how many options he'll get. Running Quartararo close would do his reputation good even if that's in the midfield.
 
I'm not surprised by the team takeover talks. IRTA were probably licking their chops when they heard Liberty were buying Dorna. Liberty have quite a rolodex, and a track record of minting money with various media strategies and US media connections. I don't think the old guard have faith the sport can become even half as big as F1. They've been trying since 1992, and it still hasn't happened. They are probably looking to cash out, and hit the beach somewhere.

I just hope Liberty can improve the on-track spectacle. They have failed to stop the self-sabotage of the working groups in F1. I'm not sure they are capable of getting the MSMA under control, though motorcycle racing is a much better platform for motorsport. The next 10 years could be interesting. If the subscription price goes down to F1 levels, I will have few complaints.
 
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mylexicon said:
I just hope Liberty can improve the on-track spectacle. They have failed to stop the self-sabotage of the working groups in F1. I'm not sure they are capable of getting the MSMA under control, though motorcycle racing is a much better platform for motorsport. The next 10 years could be interesting. If the subscription price goes down to F1 levels, I will have few complaints.
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Manufacturer monopolies are a bad thing in F1, and I'll argue they are a bad thing for MotoGP too. I do hope Liberty see that MotoGP is completely different, and thus has different needs, than F1.
 
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Manufacturer monopolies are a bad thing in F1, and I'll argue they are a bad thing for MotoGP too. I do hope Liberty see that MotoGP is completely different, and thus has different needs, than F1.
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Customer teams are a big difference between MotoGP and F1. If the satellite teams had to build their own bikes including finding an engine partner, that would make things significantly more difficult. As long as there are multiple teams with the same bike, the risk of domination is lessened. Hence, while I'd agree that manufacturer monopolies are a bad thing in MotoGP too, I think currently not as bad as in F1.

While we can see the way things are going now with it becoming a two-horse race, there were originally three Ducati riders who may have had a shot at the championship. All from different teams.
 
I want to know what the "Maestro's touch" is and the frequency with which Dorna are "touching" the paddock. Lots of one of performances, none more shocking than FabG winning a race last year, after struggling for most of the season to stay in the top-10.
 
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Manufacturer monopolies are a bad thing in F1, and I'll argue they are a bad thing for MotoGP too. I do hope Liberty see that MotoGP is completely different, and thus has different needs, than F1.
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Monopolies are bad, I agree.

Although with the possibilities of multiple teams with factory spec bikes, and the new concession system, I don't fear MotoGP going down the F1 route.
 
mylexicon said:
I want to know what the "Maestro's touch" is and the frequency with which Dorna are "touching" the paddock. Lots of one of performances, none more shocking than FabG winning a race last year, after struggling for most of the season to stay in the top-10.
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Diggia was building up to his win. His results improved very quickly after Carchedi found out how to set up the bike to suit him.

He has been a consistently top half finisher since.

Marini's podium and Zarco's win was a bigger surprise for me.
 
synn said:
The point is that relative slowness within the factory is not the problem he’s hired to solve, it’s relative slowness compared to the rest of the grid.

Riding like a bat out of hell is not the way to get there, riding without falling down and collecting data is. Even if it means going slower than everyone else.
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Are you saying riding within the limit of the bike and slower than all of the other riders on the same bike is superior to those who are pushing the limits? Staying within the limit is superior to riding at the limit and over it, with respect to pushing that limit out further?
We disagree, if so.

If riding slow and collecting the data on the bike is the way to get it faster put me on the bike. ;) They'll still get data and I'll do it for a lot less money 😆
 
MichaelBolton said:
I find it funny that after almost losing a MotoGP seat, he's going to end up as the 3rd rider in the Ducati pecking order. Sometimes some guys just need more time to adapt. I wonder if he can do a JM89 and compete for the championship next year.
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I think his best is yet to come, he's putting in solid rides this year, far better than many others on the grid for sure !
 
synn said:
I think his point of contention was that while he understands someone like Tardozzi (Ducati Lenovo team boss ) celebrating, he couldn’t digest the Ducati CEO and some other corporate personnel doing the same.
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I dont understand why Campinoti doesnt expect Claudio to celebrate. Italians are crazy when it comes to sport, the Ducati lenovo team is 1-2 in their home grand prix and particularly in the azuri colours. Why wouldn't a CEO celebrate this (and he is also getting his other Satellite Ducati in 3rd). The CEO doesnt manage Pramac, so there is no harm here. Campinoti to think otherwise is too much.
 

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