2025 Silly Season
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I’m skipping ahead to 2027 when we will have less Aerofuckification and some actual overtakes.
I hope Fabio D. gets a good ride for next year, he's a solid top 10 performer in my books, he deserves a good ride compared to many others dawdling on the grid !
I think he is safe at VR46, but I give him an outside chance at Trackhouse or Pramac Yamaha if he isn’t.
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I don't understand why anyone would want Mav either doing development or in a factory team. His results seem 80% sub-par, 15% pretty good and 5% untouchable. Not consistent enough for a factory team, and forget about development. You change a part and he goes... Faster? Slower? Is the bike better? Worse? Who knows! All combinations seem equally likely.
Marquez politicking his way into Ducati is no different than Rossi politicking his way back to Yamaha in 2013.
Does it make commercial sense for the manufacturer and the sport? Probably. Is it the most sporting thing to ......... a younger, more deserving rider? Probably not.
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Look at that, we agree on something.
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Its racing not boy scouts. A rider doing what he can to get the best ride possible is fine with me. Within reason of morality and not slandering others. But using your own clout is well within the realm of acceptable. That goes for both Marc and Vale.
Also this thing about choosing a rider based on the team having good chemistry is ..... You don't have to be friends with your teammate. This isn't a team sport. As a matter of fact your teammate is the rider you must beat to keep your job. Having a rival as a teammate might be what a rider needs to be extra motivated to find another level. Also Marc has never been known as a bad teammate. He isn't the type to partake in off track drama. The team chemistry will be just fine with Pecco and Marc together. Except maybe when Rossi comes to visit.
Agreed on the larger premise, but Marc himself has admitted to rejecting parts that worked for Pedrosa and gradually shifting the development direction towards himself (and a subsequent degradation in Pedrosa’s results).
There may not have been a wall in the middle of the box, but he’s done his fair share of fuckery off the track.
If Rossi is at a particular race and Marc wins, and Pecco takes 3rd, will Rossi be in Parc Ferme schmoozing it up with Pecco?
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I mean Marc wins championships. He is the horse Honda was betting on. Had been doing this knowing the parts wouldn't work for Dani not caring how they worked for himself thats one thing. Let us not forget after Nicky won the championship Honda introduced a miniature Pedrosa sized bike the next season.
i don’t recall Rossi taking a large pay cut and signing with a Yamaha satellite team, or performing well on a year old bike before being signed to the Yamaha factory team again, or any concern he would beat Yamaha riding for another team. I do recall Ben Spies’ side of the Yamaha factory team being run in a ramshackle fashion, which doesn’t seem to have been the case with Bastianini or Martin’s support by Ducati.
Everyone made their own choices including Martin, and Ducati for that matter. I believe MM would have been happy to stay at Gresini with a GP25, it would have helped his brother’s job prospects apart from anything else, and would have been happy to race Martín as well as Bagnaia on the factory team as long as they all had GP25s. Both Martin and MM apparently preferred to ride for Aprilia rather than on a GP25 for Pramac next year,, it would seem for different reasons, but still a choice both were entitled to make which left Ducati with a choice to make. Your boy Valentino is reputedly angling for GP25s and possibly to become the leading Ducati satellite team, again something he is entitled to do, but probably something which may have affected all this including where Martin and MM ended up.
What I do agree with is that if Pramac has been the Ducati development team they could hardly have done more to develop Martin, and he could hardly have done more to merit promotion to the factory squad, other than actually win the title last year. Timing was somewhat against him, it wasn’t unreasonable for Ducati to choose Bastianini over him when they did, had the choice been made a year later he would have been the choice and I doubt would have been supplanted by anyone.
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You could argue he has been done dirty already. Told he has the ride and then days later no you don't whilst leading the championship. I don't see that they will want him taking the number 1 plate to another manufacturer.
Pecco will be a 3 time motogp champion at the end of this year I expect.
The world will crumble, if he does that. I still like him as a racer and what he did academy wise but he did lose my respect b'cos of all this shenanigans
Bez to Aprilia will be a big F U to Rossi, but i doubt he has the courage to do it
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He also rides alot differently to Pedrosa and pushes harder into a corner than Pedrosa did. Different preferences on where he wanted the bike strong. Pedrosa was not a championship threat to him once he won the first year. More plausible he chose what worked for him rather than do so to hobble Pedrosa whom he already had covered.
