I think thats because GasGas is pulling out next year
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Is there any evidence that Tech3 is going to Yamaha?
It's possible that Dorna will lease out the spare 2 grid spots for 25 and 26 giving the slots to BMW for 27 onwards
It's possible that Dorna will lease out the spare 2 grid spots for 25 and 26 giving the slots to BMW for 27 onwards
Baseless, but Dorna is holding Yamaha's feet to the fire. Pramac and VR46 have reportedly declined, but the latest rumors still insist Pramac will jump.
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I'm pretty sure they are now saying that the beast has signed with Tech3 KTM.
I believe Carlo Pernat said so, and given he is Bastianini’s manager he should be well informed.
True, MM is probably the one guy who could beat Ducati on an inferior bike, he has already been doing so this year to some extent. Maybe a mature Acosta could/will ?. But for all the recent discussion I don’t really see Martin or Bastianini doing so.
I hadn’t actually read the article. All the current KTM bikes on the grid are said to be full factory bikes already, and all the riders of KTMs are contracted to KTM already, and I guess they can brand the bikes as they choose, which they have done by the Tech 3 bikes being branded as Gasgas currently.
If I were KTM I wouldn’t necessarily be very happy about how Herve has run the team, before Acosta Tech 3 has largely in the KTM days been a place where well performed Moto 2 riders have gone to see their careers die, and Acosta may be being run by KTM with little or no input from Herve. Hard to tell though, the article looks like a translation, and the article in which Carlo Pernat made his pronouncement was in Italian. They might want to change things now they have big riders signed and a need to develop their bike better.
All bets for next year may be off now Liberty own the sport however, particularly given they presumably have a relationship with Red Bull, the current preeminent F1 team, and given that complete domination of the sport by Ducati would not seem to be in the interests of anyone except Ducati.
(EDIT Article on Crash today said the seat next to Bastianini is in high demand and that KTM can ‘play around’ with Gasgas now).
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I'm not sure how or if that's Herve's fault? I would think that is more to do with the equipment KTM has been giving its riders for the most part. Last year was the first year KTM haven't finished 4th or 5th in the manufacturers standings. Oliveira's best season was with Tech3 before he moved to the factory team. I don't think they have had the most talented guys on their bikes for the most part.
I'm just not sure we can put Tech3's results down to Herve and bad management.
I see your Oliveira who imo was rather good at one time and raise you Johann Zarco, a two-time Moto 2 champion, Augusto Fernandez, Raul Fernandez and Remy Gardner.
It hinges imo as well as yours on how good their equipment has been, and in particular on whether Tech 3 really are given full factory bikes; I am sure both that Acosta has one together with full factory support and that he is an unusual prodigy. The other thing may be the riders looking better than they really are in the other classes because the Ajo teams are obviously very well run.
I am doubtless biased because of my compatriot Remy Gardner, who may not be all that good or at least a rider who requires a season or more to settle into a new bike or class, but he wasn't happy with Tech 3 whom he contended pretty much dismissed him and wouldn't listen to him from the getgo.
I think whether the equipment was the same as the factory team or not, KTM haven't been able to yet give their riders something that has been able to consistently fight at the front of the grid. Whether that is because of their riders, and they have had many or because the bike is where the problem lays, I am not sure. The most obvious answer is a combination of both. The truth is that KTM is yet to have a proven and consistent winner in the top class on their bike.
Iker Lecuona and Augusto Fernandez have so far been the only riders who has been given more than one season at Tech3. Given that all the contracts are signed with KTM rather than Tech3, the bad management of those riders is IMO more on those seem to be a consistent KTM issue rather than a specific Tech3 issue. Without spending too much time going through their riders etc before KTM they did seem to be more stable with their team and many of the riders who left after a year seem to have gone to a factory team.
Zarco was in the factory team so out of Herve's purview. Raul Fernandez has not yet been able to improve on his results from his Tech3 KTM days, but was for whatever reason only given one year at Tech3, again it seems to be a KTM factory call rather than Herve's own call. His job is to manage the team and I am sure his opinion does hold weight with KTM but in the end I think they do what they feel is best for them.
Doing a quick bit of research, 5 mins tops, rather than Herve being the issue, I am leaning towards the issue being with KTM who have not had a great record in their short history with being the major cause of the management issues rather than Herve. There is a likeness back to the pre-Gigi Ducati days where the problem was the riders, never the bike in their opinion, though that seems to have changed recently.
Remy said a lot of stupid things about KTM before they gave him the flick. The list is surprisingly long. To me, even though I wanted to see him succeed as a fellow Aussie he always came off as a 'don't you know who my dad is' spoilt brat.
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Didn't Gardner's problems also stem partially from the fact that his manager, Paco Sanchez kicked up a fuss with Pit?
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/n...eed-to-get-on-ktm-motogp-bike-again/10404125/
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/n...eed-to-get-on-ktm-motogp-bike-again/10404125/
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KTM is the Red Bull of MotoGP. In more ways. Both teams go all in to win, and win only.
The turnover rate at theirs have been immense.
What they have done is that they've thrown money at the project in a calculated manner.
They've established the Red Bull Rookies cup, giving them first dibs on talent, of others are late to the party.
They've poured money into Moto3 and Moto2 teams, to hang onto said talent.
They've employed the best test rider of all time, and have others as well.
So unless you are hitting your KPIs, you are out of the team. And Hervé Poncharal is basically an employee of KTM at this point.
He gave so many obvious hints that he would have liked to keep at least one of Gardner/Fernandez when they were teaming up, and Augusto when it looked as he was about to be dropped after a season, that it was hard to listen to. It was borderline begging Pit to let him keep the young'uns.
As for the Pit Mobility Group, they are now majority stakeholders of MV Augusta.....
The turnover rate at theirs have been immense.
What they have done is that they've thrown money at the project in a calculated manner.
They've established the Red Bull Rookies cup, giving them first dibs on talent, of others are late to the party.
They've poured money into Moto3 and Moto2 teams, to hang onto said talent.
They've employed the best test rider of all time, and have others as well.
So unless you are hitting your KPIs, you are out of the team. And Hervé Poncharal is basically an employee of KTM at this point.
He gave so many obvious hints that he would have liked to keep at least one of Gardner/Fernandez when they were teaming up, and Augusto when it looked as he was about to be dropped after a season, that it was hard to listen to. It was borderline begging Pit to let him keep the young'uns.
As for the Pit Mobility Group, they are now majority stakeholders of MV Augusta.....
Sure, more than willing to believe after your post it is down to KTM rather than Herve.
Sure, I have been blaming Herve but neglected that the riders are contracted to KTM. My problem is with exactly what you say, that they corral all the young talent with the junior and other class programs, then they get one year at Tech 3 and that is it. Iirc, which I may not given recent posts in this thread, Raul Fernandez wanted to stay in moto 2 for another year.
Tech3 is for KTM what Pramac is for Ducati. I don't think they waste talents they promoted. Why ? Because for few years, all rookies has arrived on a Ducati or a KTM Tech3. We all know how far the Ducati is from others bikes so it makes some riders overperform... And with 8 ducatis on the grid, it's already hard to fight for P10 for a "normal" rookie. Apart from Acosta who is a pure genius...
So why haven’t they possibly wasted talent by corralling said talent at the Red Bull cup level then sacking them after a season if they don’t excel riding for the KTM satellite team against 8 Ducatis ?.
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Its confirmed, Marc in Red for the next 2 years
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I find the lack of interest in Pramac interesting;
Perhaps there's some substance in the rumor of Pramac switching to Yamaha despite deigning that they are heading that way.
- Martin leaving
- Marc Marquez refusing to join Pramac
- Bastainini not going to Pramac
- Haven't seen any report of anyone been interested in joining Pramac
Perhaps there's some substance in the rumor of Pramac switching to Yamaha despite deigning that they are heading that way.
