2024 Round 13: Gran Premio Red Bull di San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini San Marino - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

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Interesting that Marc might get to test the GP25, but I didnt know that there was still a sponsorship dispute between Red Bull and Monster over Marquez.
Looks like the 3 riders who will be on GP25s next year are testing them as you would expect.

Is there a dispute or are Red Bull just keen to keep MM in some way, shape or form ?. If he was prepared to ditch the Honda pay check I would imagine Red Bull would go the same way if nothing can be worked out. With VW Audi in straitened circumstances they probably wouldn’t mind Red Bull paying MM’s salary though.
 
Is there a dispute or are Red Bull just keen to keep MM in some way, shape or form ?.
I read (don't remember if it was here or somewhere else) that Marc was willing to go sponsorless on the matter of energy drinks if a deal between Ducati and Red Bull couldn't be agreed. So no Monster sponsorship either way. It will be Red Bull or a paused Red Bull partnership he'll resume whenever he's able to. His current manager works in RB as well.
 
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Looks like the 3 riders who will be on GP25s next year are testing them as you would expect.

Is there a dispute or are Red Bull just keen to keep MM in some way, shape or form ?. If he was prepared to ditch the Honda pay check I would imagine Red Bull would go the same way if nothing can be worked out. With VW Audi in straitened circumstances they probably wouldn’t mind Red Bull paying MM’s salary though.
I tend to agree, Ducatis relationship with Monster isn’t a long standing one, and Red Bull might be more attractive with MM on the team for Ducati.
 
Interesting that Marc might get to test the GP25, but I didnt know that there was still a sponsorship dispute between Red Bull and Monster over Marquez.
There is. Ducati have a global agreement with Monster for at least the next 2 years from what I heard. I also heard (through the grapevine, no source) that Marc has declined an offer to become sponsored by Monster, but that there may be a case of the bikes having Monster, but Marquez himself having Red Bull on his helmet.
Well slap my ... and call me daddy. He apologized for something.
The last time someone doubled down against the Marquez clan, it went badly.
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Looks like the 3 riders who will be on GP25s next year are testing them as you would expect.

Is there a dispute or are Red Bull just keen to keep MM in some way, shape or form ?. If he was prepared to ditch the Honda pay check I would imagine Red Bull would go the same way if nothing can be worked out. With VW Audi in straitened circumstances they probably wouldn’t mind Red Bull paying MM’s salary though.
I think Marc and Red Bull are keen to stay together. As an athlete, I think RB have better resources too, like the athlete development center that have in Austria. I don;t know that Monster have anything like that.
I tend to agree, Ducatis relationship with Monster isn’t a long standing one, and Red Bull might be more attractive with MM on the team for Ducati.
When the current contract ends, yes. But I don't see them breaking their Monster agreement yet.
 
haven't changed my opinion on what happened, that it could have been avoided by rolling off the throttle (cutting gas),
Then why didn't you? You could have avoided Alex, Mav, and a ditch by doing so.

-- I never meant to say he crashed me out on purpose.
I haven't changed my opinion on what happened


Hmmm
 
haven't changed my opinion on what happened, that it could have been avoided by rolling off the throttle (cutting gas),
Then why didn't you? You could have avoided Alex, Mav, and a ditch by doing so.

-- I never meant to say he crashed me out on purpose.
I haven't changed my opinion on what happened


Hmmm
Somebody got to him.
 
I read (don't remember if it was here or somewhere else) that Marc was willing to go sponsorless on the matter of energy drinks if a deal between Ducati and Red Bull couldn't be agreed.
He can’t do that.
What’s on the bike ends up on the leathers. No exceptions, unless it’s a replacement rider called in at the last minute.
 
Not to dampen the spirits, but Valentino was half way across the world racing a car when this happened. Nor had he released any statements about the incident afterwards.
Valentino is the one who first included Alex in his fatwa against MM though.

I don’t see how AM has been involved in anything against Valentino in previous years, or has done anything to his protégés prior to this incident which I would regard as nothing to do with his brother as well. I can see how it is frustrating for a rider who has closed down a competitor fairly easily with superior late race pace to have the slower rider contest the position, particularly a mid pack rider against a contender, but every rider on the grid including provably Bagnaia himself would do the same, especially for a podium position only 4 laps from the end of a race in which few successful overtaking manoeuvres have occurred, possibly why Bagnaia went for a half chance so hard as an analysis elsewhere suggested.
 
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A. Marquez’s tyres were cooked a lap prior though (Just as Simon Crafar predicted; that man is awesome; but I digress). Thats how Bagnaia closed in so fast and if he could see the former spinning in the corners, he’d have no doubt wanted to make the move as all champions are wont to do. I still maintain that it was a risk he didn’t need to take (Marquez the younger was fading fast and would have conceded in a lap or 2), but I’m not a 3 time world champ so what do I know.

I do think that Bagnaia is getting piled on unfairly though. Yes he does crash more than he ought to do but barring a few instances like last week, he mostly does it by himself to himself and the only thing that he hurts other than his physical self is his ego.

This grid, past and present have seen some real human torpedoes and they never received as much criticism as the current world champ.
 
Not to dampen the spirits, but Valentino was half way across the world racing a car when this happened. Nor had he released any statements about the incident afterwards.
I suspect if anything, he was riled up by Marco Bezzechi.
 
I suspect if anything, he was riled up by Marco Bezzechi.
By virtue of being Italian, he got riled up by himself and gave a press conference right afterwards instead of hitting the showers.

It’s all pillow talk though, if you compare to the glory days of Biaggi, Rossi and co.

Biaggi: “You should wash your mouth before saying my name”

Rossi: “Talk to my fist”

**Former shows up for the presser with a black eye**
 

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