2024 Phillip Island MotoGp Race

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Great ride like a champ by Jorge! Same for Marc. Tomorrow will be interesting.

After seeing Vinales run wide on his previous attempt at overtaking Bezz, my impression was that, in the buildup to the crash, he attempted to make the overtake stick by immediately taking back the race line in time for a late braking. But alas, Bezz, who was close behind, got sucked in the slipstream, new aero and all. A horrific racing incident IMO. Both riders vying tooth and nail for position.

The KTMs were nowhere. Pedro must be miserable now with 3 DNFs in a row. Will he bin it again tomorrow??

A journeyman’s ride by Morbidelli. I would not be surprised if next year is his last. Marc is certainly showing his brother up as another journeyman.
 
Marc is a ....... boss!

What a race, Marc completing his bingo of bad luck with a never seen incident at the start and still winning it, superb performance. Props to Martín who also rode like a champion and made Marc work for it, bravo to the two of them, great season so far for both riders.

Pecco couldn't close the gap entirely although he tried during the first half. The gains from the previous GP undone again, 2024 is a constant pendulum.
 
So uh, remember when Jorge Martin said the other day he would have liked to have tested himself against the 2014/2015 riders?

He got to find out first-hand when the bike advantage is negligible and on a rider's circuit like Phillip Island.

When Marc got the bad start off the line due to the tear-off, I was thinking, "You can't make this .... up."

When he started reeling everyone in, I started thinking, "Oh this boy really is not going to lay down today."

His speed is still unbelievable.

He was absolutely smoking the rear tire on the last lap through Stoner Corner.

Were I Jorge, I'd never wonder why Ducati were willing to dump him.

Pecco?

He's a setup queen. He got left in the dust by both Jorge and Marc.

Loved Marc's block pass on Jorge, that disrupted his rhythm entirely and finally broke his back.

Easily the race of the season for me.
 
Jorge is still bloody good, as is Pecco. That is a counter clockwise circuit so Marc is really good there.
But yeah he is on last years bike.

He and Pecco ain't aliens though that's for sure.

And honestly Marc on equal footing when the GP24 can't get away with all its advantages can keep up just as well as needed.

No one made a big deal about counterclockwise circuits and Marc riding well on them till this season as if it's the only thing he can do. He didn't do .... on the Honda Widowmaker the past 2 seasons on any circuit. Take away the GP24 advantage and that's an entirely different championship table.
 
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That was a bit over the limit by Aldeguer in the last lap IMO. Then again, it's not that different from Bestia pushing Jorge out of the way a few GPs ago. Canet isn't angry at least.
I caught up with the races after waking up early, but not early enough (It's Australia).

When I saw Aldeguer do that, I was thinking that it was a bit of a Bastianini move. However, there's been no talk that I've seen (or that I think) that it deserved a penalty. A very tough move indeed.

For Moto3, Alonso kept his cool in the main part of the race with his hard tyre, and then just blasted away from the field at the end. Surely he's going to beat Rossi's record now. There were seasons in the past when it was frustrating that Moto3 champions would be the riders who weren't punted out so much. For second place in the championship, Veijer and Ortola's crash was a major gift for Holgado. Holgado fully deserves his 2nd place, but that's a useful margin in the championship that he was given on a plate.

In Moto2, I'm not sure why the MT Helmets MSI team is off the pace. I think Ogura's 4th was about the best he could expect. And, Ogura's best ever result at the track. Not a podium, but this is sewing up the championship in action.

In MotoGP, I accidentally spoiled the race by seeing the results on MotoGP.com before watching the race. I have to be more careful. When I saw the start, already knowing that Marquez would win, I was wondering how he would come back from that. But, after the first lap where most of the damage had been repaired, it sort of became obvious. Following up @mikesbytes comments, it doesn't look like MM93 had restricted revs there. Martin is looking more and more like the champion, and despite the discussion after Martin signed for Aprillia, he does not look to have any disadvantage to Bagnaia in terms of equipment. Sad that Acosta was unfit for the race. I didn't read the news first, and was looking down the order to see where he was ... and not there. (I guessed what had happened.)

Another data point that Marquez will smoke Bagnaia next year. But, we'll see.
 
He and Pecco ain't aliens though that's for sure.

And honestly Marc on equal footing when the GP24 can't get away with all its advantages can keep up just as well as needed.

No one made a big deal about counterclockwise circuits and Marc riding well on them till this season as if it's the only thing he can do. He didn't do .... on the Honda Widowmaker the past 2 seasons on any circuit. Take away the GP24 advantage and that's an entirely different championship table.



Plenty of other links if you look. Nobody has said it is all he can do just that it is a strength.
He has plenty of others but fk he can go through a left hander well.
I reckon he is better than Pecco and Jorge but they are still bloody good.
 
Martin gained another 10 points over Bagnaia to have a 20 point lead. There is 3 races left so a maximum of 111 points, it looks like it will be decided at the last race. Mathematically M Marquez and Bastainini are not at 79 and 93 points behind respectively but it need Martin and Bagnaia to be injured for either to win, so it's about 3rd in the championship with Marquez having a 14 point lead over Bastainin
 
If you look at the Helicopter view Vinales has about a 2 bike length gap in front of Bezzecchi when he pulls across in front of him. Bezzecchi gets the rear wheel off the ground as he brakes as hard as he can

I'm wondering what Bezzecchi could of done better? I'm assuming the race officials think Bezzecchi could of done something different otherwise they wouldn't of given him the long lap penalty.
 
Martin gained another 10 points over Bagnaia to have a 20 point lead. There is 3 races left so a maximum of 111 points, it looks like it will be decided at the last race. Mathematically M Marquez and Bastainini are not at 79 and 93 points behind respectively but it need Martin and Bagnaia to be injured for either to win, so it's about 3rd in the championship with Marquez having a 14 point lead over Bastainin
IMHO the Total amount of points left to score (111) is far less important than the cumulative point gain for the winner over the second in each race.

For the sprint 12 points go to the winner, 9 points to the second (+3).
For the race 25 to the winner, 20 to the second (+5). A Total of 8 points per weekend.
That means that IF Pecco wins every single event with Martin in second place he'll score 24 points over Martin, becoming world champion for the third time.

But this means that from now on Pecco will be under a ton of pressure to be the best rider on the finish line in every single race, while Martin needs just a few more points over Pecco to be able to happily sail to his First championship, just sitting in second place.

In short, to be champion Pecco needs to be the top rider, Martin only needs to be consistent, neither need to throw their races in the gravel.
 

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