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2022 Circuit of the Americas

Fabs ended up topping the combinated FP sheets. Marc will have a tough rival in him, if the Yamaha doesn't falter in the race like it did in Argentina. KTMs are nowhere to be found. Q1 will be loaded with the Aprilias, Rins (who had great pace during Friday, not so much today) and the Pramac bikes. 3 out of 4 Hondas in the top 10.
 
Fabs ended up topping the combinated FP sheets. Marc will have a tough rival in him, if the Yamaha doesn't falter in the race like it did in Argentina. KTMs are nowhere to be found. Q1 will be loaded with the Aprilias, Rins (who had great pace during Friday, not so much today) and the Pramac bikes. 3 out of 4 Hondas in the top 10.

Once again, Fabs carrying the load for Yamaha. I really expected more from Morbidelli. I guess the KTMs really don't like the tires.
 
Shame about the crash for Fabio in the Q2. Overtaking 5 Ducatis will be very tough tomorrow. Marc starting from 9th, curious to see how much will he push.
 
Shame about the crash for Fabio in the Q2. Overtaking 5 Ducatis will be very tough tomorrow. Marc starting from 9th, curious to see how much will he push.


I'm really getting tired of MM's looking for a tow. I tend to root for Fabs but I also find myself rooting for Martin. If a Duc wins, I hope it's either Martin or Bastianini.
 
Well…. That was not a boring race. So much to recommend it. You just knew that Miller leading for that long and finishing atop the podium was too good to be true. But he didn’t throw it away in the last three laps. Pretty wonderful, the Gresini team having properly competitive bikes and properly Italian bikes as well with an Italian rider. They were always a great team, but now they have all their Ducs in a row. Pun intended. Bastinini needs a better nickname tho. Rins and Mir both looking sharp, their long experience and racecraft steading them well against the much faster Ducatis. Quartararo squeezing every possible bit of performance out of the Yamaha. Who could blame him if he went to Ducati at contract’s end? And lastly Marquez cleaning up from the back of the pack. No doubt lots of speculation on how much of that performance was due to his longstanding affinity for COTA and how much was due to HRC working out the kinks in the new bike. Plenty of passing and what was it, one crash?
 
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Great race today! Another unexpected result and this is why I'm really loving MotoGP.

Fantastic win for Enea. Great, fun character with a lot of promise. I hope to see him stay at the front although the current MotoGP could see him fighting for points in the next race.

Rins kept it together - he seems to get along with this track... great ride.
Miller certainly has his ups and downs that make it difficult to know what he's really on about. Although I agree he deserves a MotoGP seat more than others on the grid, he does face very stiff competition among the other Ducati riders, Enea being one of them.

Marquez was entertaining to watch and so was Fabio. They certainly fought for their results in different ways.

I thought the Martinator would have had more life left in his tyres at the end.... it shows just how well Miller did ... not to mention Bagnaia's slump as well.
 
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Bastinini needs a better nickname tho.

I'd say The Beast is pretty apt for him. I'm beginning to think he's a real talent, surely Ducati must be redacting that contract for the official seat right now. Incredible ride, and wasn't the only one as we all know, Fabs and Marc, nuff said, and the Suzukis too. Probably the best COTA race we've seen in MotoGP, even if it took Marc to botch the start for it to be so interesting. Bagnaia must feel both like .... and great at the same time; .... because he was again outclassed by several ducs, and great by having signed that contract extension in the pre-season.

Anyways, in two weeks the real championship starts. Europe will show who the real contenders are.
 
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Fantastic race. I have to hand it to Miller for keeping it all together at the end. Once again, he was probably hard enough on the tires to not give him enough rubber at the end to hold off Enea and Rins. Great rides from both. The Suzuki team is showing great improvement. It was awesome to watch Fabio and Marc duke out those last 10 laps.

I wonder what happened to Morbidelli? All that early promise fading or the Yamaha isn’t so good or both. If nothing else, the disparity shows just how good Fabio is.

On to the “real” season in Europe! I think it is going to rock.
 
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Great race today! Another unexpected result and this is why I'm really loving MotoGP.

Fantastic win for Enea. Great, fun character with a lot of promise. I hope to see him stay at the front although the current MotoGP could see him fighting for points in the next race.

Rins kept it together - he seems to get along with this track... great ride.
Miller certainly has his ups and downs that make it difficult to know what he's really on about. Although I agree he deserves a MotoGP seat more than others on the grid, he does face very stiff competition among the other Ducati riders, Enea being one of them.

Marquez was entertaining to watch and so was Fabio. They certainly fought for their results in different ways.

I thought the Martinator would have had more life left in his tyres at the end.... it shows just how well Miller did ... not to mention Bagnaia's slump as well.
All credit to Bastianini of course, and the first assumption should be that he is better at preserving tires/riding on worn tires, but I wonder whether his version of the Ducati which was the best bike last year is also easiest on tires. Other riders on the new Ducatis and not just Jack seemed to run out of tires at the end of the race, not much of a problem for Bagnaia or Martin last year as I recall.
 
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All credit to Bastianini of course, and the first assumption should be that he is better at preserving tires/riding on worn tires, but I wonder whether his version of the Ducati which was the best bike last year is also easiest on tires. Other riders on the new Ducatis and not just Jack seemed to run out of tires at the end of the race, not much of a problem for Bagnaia or Martin last year as I recall.

Sure, this is something Ducati will sort out soon you can be sure. Expect the GP22 leading the pack at the 2nd half of the season.

But despite GP21 still being a superior machine, Enea is looking like a thing I'd say. We must wait a bit more, but...

I think Miller didn't expect Rins coming to attack in that last lap. Too late for any reaction. Good race for him.

I'm impressed by MM one more time. What a rider he is. Incredible. I'd say he would win today if not by the problems at race start.

Nice race. But think a bit... we are having lots of different riders and machine fighting at the top at each weekend but I sincerely miss the times where we had that bitter rivalry between only 2 riders (Rossi x Biagi/Gibernau/Stoner/Lorenzo/MM, Stoner x Lorenzo, MM x Dovi, etc.). I am missing the "good guy" and the "bad guy" times. That was more engaging IMHO. Not very funny watching a rider win in a weekend and get lost in the back of the pack in the next one, lots of different riders winning here and there, motogp nowadays seeming like Mario Kart. Not that Mario Kart was boring but it's nice to have rivalries. Just saying... motogp is boring for me this way, I'd preffer the other way. bah...

Dorna has transformed motogp in a moto3/moto2 of 1000cc. I'm not used to this. I'm used to understand motogp as the last and final stage in the rider career, therefore it is obviously not like moto2/3. I'm missing the times where we got into the weekend knowing we would have a bloody battle between two aliens fighting for the top.

It's the first time in decades I'm not making a point of watching motogp anymore. I'm not getting excited anymore. I don't know how you feel about it right now but I feel this way. Strange times. This is not the thing that caught my heart in the early 2000 era. Sad times for my racing side. F1 is .... and now MotoGP is .....

When Rossi retired (actually since 2016) I somewhat felt this would happen but at least MM was making that bridge and now stupid Honda managers destroyed MM career and we are left with a bunch of average and boring riders. It's the first time there is not a single alien in motogp right now. Is this good? I don't think so. .... that .....
 
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Sure, this is something Ducati will sort out soon you can be sure. Expect the GP22 leading the pack at the 2nd half of the season.

But despite GP21 still being a superior machine, Enea is looking like a thing I'd say. We must wait a bit more, but...

I think Miller didn't expect Rins coming to attack in that last lap. Too late for any reaction. Good race for him.

I'm impressed by MM one more time. What a rider he is. Incredible. I'd say he would win today if not by the problems at race start.

Nice race. But think a bit... we are having lots of different riders and machine fighting at the top at each weekend but I sincerely miss the times where we had that bitter rivalry between only 2 riders (Rossi x Biagi/Gibernau/Stoner/Lorenzo/MM, Stoner x Lorenzo, MM x Dovi, etc.). I am missing the "good guy" and the "bad guy" times. That was more engaging IMHO. Not very funny watching a rider win in a weekend and get lost in the back of the pack in the next one, lots of different riders winning here and there, motogp nowadays seeming like Mario Kart. Not that Mario Kart was boring but it's nice to have rivalries. Just saying... motogp is boring for me this way, I'd preffer the other way. bah...

Dorna has transformed motogp in a moto3/moto2 of 1000cc. I'm not used to this. I'm used to understand motogp as the last and final stage in the rider career, therefore it is obviously not like moto2/3. I'm missing the times where we got into the weekend knowing we would have a bloody battle between two aliens fighting for the top.

It's the first time in decades I'm not making a point of watching motogp anymore. I'm not getting excited anymore. I don't know how you feel about it right now but I feel this way. Strange times. This is not the thing that caught my heart in the early 2000 era. Sad times for my racing side. F1 is .... and now MotoGP is .....

When Rossi retired (actually since 2016) I somewhat felt this would happen but at least MM was making that bridge and now stupid Honda managers destroyed MM career and we are left with a bunch of average and boring riders. It's the first time there is not a single alien in motogp right now. Is this good? I don't think so. .... that .....

Certainly at least Gaz and i agree with you, and have had a similar discussion on the Jack Miller thread.

I am approaching old fogeydom myself, but if there is one guy who is clearly the best I am very happy to watch him being so. Close racing is all very well, but not at any cost in my view, and certainly not by making the whole thing a tire lottery. I have no interest in Nascar for this reason, some guy can be way better for a whole race, then they throw a sometimes phony yellow flag so there is a last lap stoush.
 
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I think this whole apparatus will coalesce into another age of aliens with the top riders and teams duking it out. Another year or two.

I enjoy it either way.
 
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Sure, this is something Ducati will sort out soon you can be sure. Expect the GP22 leading the pack at the 2nd half of the season.

But despite GP21 still being a superior machine, Enea is looking like a thing I'd say. We must wait a bit more, but...

I think Miller didn't expect Rins coming to attack in that last lap. Too late for any reaction. Good race for him.

I'm impressed by MM one more time. What a rider he is. Incredible. I'd say he would win today if not by the problems at race start.

Nice race. But think a bit... we are having lots of different riders and machine fighting at the top at each weekend but I sincerely miss the times where we had that bitter rivalry between only 2 riders (Rossi x Biagi/Gibernau/Stoner/Lorenzo/MM, Stoner x Lorenzo, MM x Dovi, etc.). I am missing the "good guy" and the "bad guy" times. That was more engaging IMHO. Not very funny watching a rider win in a weekend and get lost in the back of the pack in the next one, lots of different riders winning here and there, motogp nowadays seeming like Mario Kart. Not that Mario Kart was boring but it's nice to have rivalries. Just saying... motogp is boring for me this way, I'd preffer the other way. bah...

Dorna has transformed motogp in a moto3/moto2 of 1000cc. I'm not used to this. I'm used to understand motogp as the last and final stage in the rider career, therefore it is obviously not like moto2/3. I'm missing the times where we got into the weekend knowing we would have a bloody battle between two aliens fighting for the top.

It's the first time in decades I'm not making a point of watching motogp anymore. I'm not getting excited anymore. I don't know how you feel about it right now but I feel this way. Strange times. This is not the thing that caught my heart in the early 2000 era. Sad times for my racing side. F1 is .... and now MotoGP is .....

When Rossi retired (actually since 2016) I somewhat felt this would happen but at least MM was making that bridge and now stupid Honda managers destroyed MM career and we are left with a bunch of average and boring riders. It's the first time there is not a single alien in motogp right now. Is this good? I don't think so. .... that .....
You can't forget that during the alien era, the aliens also had large mechanical/bike advantages. Stoner at Ducati is the only on who you could argue didn't have that advantage.

Michelins tyre lottery is surely a part of drawing the field closer together but non-factory teams having more support as well as more factories is also part of the disappearance of aliens IMO.
 
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Nice race. But think a bit... we are having lots of different riders and machine fighting at the top at each weekend but I sincerely miss the times where we had that bitter rivalry between only 2 riders (Rossi x Biagi/Gibernau/Stoner/Lorenzo/MM, Stoner x Lorenzo, MM x Dovi, etc.). I am missing the "good guy" and the "bad guy" times. That was more engaging IMHO. Not very funny watching a rider win in a weekend and get lost in the back of the pack in the next one, lots of different riders winning here and there, motogp nowadays seeming like Mario Kart. Not that Mario Kart was boring but it's nice to have rivalries. Just saying... motogp is boring for me this way, I'd preffer the other way. bah...

Dorna has transformed motogp in a moto3/moto2 of 1000cc. I'm not used to this. I'm used to understand motogp as the last and final stage in the rider career, therefore it is obviously not like moto2/3. I'm missing the times where we got into the weekend knowing we would have a bloody battle between two aliens fighting for the top.

It's the first time in decades I'm not making a point of watching motogp anymore. I'm not getting excited anymore. I don't know how you feel about it right now but I feel this way. Strange times. This is not the thing that caught my heart in the early 2000 era. Sad times for my racing side. F1 is .... and now MotoGP is .....

When Rossi retired (actually since 2016) I somewhat felt this would happen but at least MM was making that bridge and now stupid Honda managers destroyed MM career and we are left with a bunch of average and boring riders. It's the first time there is not a single alien in motogp right now. Is this good? I don't think so. .... that .....

I think the riders are high caliber, and they will create their own history. It will take a few years to see who repeats, and what sort of battles ensue, but it could be good.

The show has undoubtedly deteriorated, but the problems are not easy to fix. The tire war is gone. One tire supplier is trying to make 6 manufacturers equally happy. It’s a dumpster fire and that’s about all it can be. The other issue is throttle by wire. The manufacturers can just dial up whatever power delivery is fastest, regardless of the rider’s input. King Kenny said this would be a problem when Motogp was conceived. No one cared. These issues do not have an easy solution.
 
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I think what gui22a is describing is more to do with the fact that when a person’s been watching the same sport for so many years, one tends to see certain patterns repeat themselves making for a kind of predictability that’s there regardless of all the technical changes which can seem largely superficial for fans who’re more invested in the riders than the teams per se. I feel sure that’s why a lot of folks have lost interest and stopped posting here. I’ve not been all that excited this far into the season, because as we all know/feel, the first few races of the season aren’t really predictors of the season as it will be in Europe.

I for one, am super disappointed in Yamaha’s lack of progress because I have been a big Fabio supporter and want to see him at the front against the top riders. Having a handful of the same few “aliens” dependably return over the course of multiple seasons gives fans the time to become fully invested in the white hat or black hat of their choice. Humans are just naturally tribal and want to know who to root for. Rossi being such a polarizing character, made it fun to root for whoever was beating him at the time. In wrestling the guy cast as the bad guy is known as “a heel”. Currently there is no heel in MotoGp.
 
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I'm re-watching the race from Marc's onboard camera. He's coming up on Fabio. The gaps he closes on the brakes are incredible to me. Can't remember if they showed it during the race but Marc had somewhat of a pucker moment at T-10.
 
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I think what gui22a is describing is more to do with the fact that when a person’s been watching the same sport for so many years, one tends to see certain patterns repeat themselves making for a kind of predictability that’s there regardless of all the technical changes which can seem largely superficial for fans who’re more invested in the riders than the teams per se. I feel sure that’s why a lot of folks have lost interest and stopped posting here. I’ve not been all that excited this far into the season, because as we all know/feel, the first few races of the season aren’t really predictors of the season as it will be in Europe.

I for one, am super disappointed in Yamaha’s lack of progress because I have been a big Fabio supporter and want to see him at the front against the top riders. Having a handful of the same few “aliens” dependably return over the course of multiple seasons gives fans the time to become fully invested in the white hat or black hat of their choice. Humans are just naturally tribal and want to know who to root for. Rossi being such a polarizing character, made it fun to root for whoever was beating him at the time. In wrestling the guy cast as the bad guy is known as “a heel”. Currently there is no heel in MotoGp.

Some of the discontentment is probably narrative driven, e.g. no heel, but I think the paddock is also poisoning their own drinking well. Notwithstanding the degradation of vital technical freedoms, like bore measurement or variable valve timing, the factories also seem to be parroting Ricky Bobby’s infamous maxim, “If you ain’t first you’re last”

The participants are constantly reminding fans that the sport is not okay by blaming Michelin for making crap tires, and for blackballing their own riders for missing the top-5. It could be a deliberate attempt to sow discontentment and regain control of the sport, or maybe some of the established players are struggling to function in a mature formula with lots of competitive bikes.

I’m one of the first people to complain about the sport, but it seems people are sort of losing the plot. “Boohoo front shapeshifter are gone. This isn’t prototype racing.” Bruh, they can’t even choose their v-angle, let alone their front suspension. We got much bigger problems.

Dunno maybe I’m just salty about the status quo because this situation is completely unnecessary, but I don’t think the riders or the tires are to blame.
 
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