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2017 Gran Premio Red Bull de España

Cal believes in himself which is what he's supposed to do. He's just more vocal about it than most other riders. I think it works against him because it puts extra pressure on him that he doesn't need. When you talk a big game, people are going to expect you to back it up. If Cal was having issues running the pace that the leaders were on he should've backed off a bit, but he had put himself under pressure to show how fast he was and that led him to the gravel trap.

Sure - being self-confident is essential to being a racer, but honestly, he hasn't shown the kind of results one needs to make the demands he believes himself to be entitled to. Lets face it, who can you point to that's destroyed as much equipment and DNFd as many races as Cal?
 
He ran wide, so if anyone made a mistake it was him.

I think it was a racing incident myself, more than most so dubbed, and Dovi did exactly what he should have done and was perfectly entitled to try in the circumstances. Perhaps Dani was over-eager to take advantage, but the only rider who even had a semi-lose was Dovi.

I was just talking about what I saw, now it seems that Dovi, Jorge, Dani, and Mike Webb agree with me.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/895412/1/chain-reaction-lorenzo-pedrosa-dovizioso-skittled-spain

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/895413/1/pedrosa-disappointed-race-direction-after-fall
 
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There is no language problem with Cal.

He's a .....
Well, there is that, I suppose. lol
With that said..... Wait for the addition of rear view systems to be implemented
Dovi has a problem passing JLo. And I think it is more than being teammates. Dovi has been a good late-braker forever, but you still need the rider you are passing to slow-down significantly before the apex to make the pass work. Jorge carries more speed than most to the apex and takes a different line than many. It seems that it is enough to throw Dovi off his normal passing. This is my guess, as an armchair podium sitter.
........ but today I felt very brave and fast and that is a big step. #JL99
Geez, what a bunch of humble pie from a multiple world champion. Pay attention, Cal.
 
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Take the Jerez Dovi, JLo and Pedrosa incident.....Now replace JLo with Rossi, same exact incident, nothing changes except the rider.....

Now is it still a Racing indicident as many of you have said today?

Just an experiment to see if some of you truly overcome your biases... :)

Oh the irony.

Yes, it is only other people who are biased. Condemning others for bias in regard to an incident which didn’t actually occur is a new twist.

Everyone is saying both were racing incidents.
 
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Oh the irony.

Yes, it is only other people who are biased. Condemning others for bias in regard to an incident which didn’t actually occur is a new twist.

Everyone is saying both were racing incidents.
Well, not everyone. Some still seem to think MM deserved punishment because he was a ........ all day, or year, or years, or what-ev-ar. I didn't know whether to appaulid MigsAngel for the post or not after danski gave him a like. I figured I mis-read what he said, when that happened. Although, danski has always been the most reasonable of the Rossi fans here as far as I know.
 
Dani Pedrosa said:
“It was a race incident for me in Argentina - it wasn't for Marc with Vale, but Zarco and me, yes. I highside because I pull up the bike. After Zarco's mistake coming into the [corner] I tried to give space, I finally end up in the hospital and this time - OK Lorenzo maybe don't see me, don't look or didn't expect me there or whatever – but he didn't pick up the bike and 'boom!' we ended up crashing. And I highside again. And again 'race incident'.

“So I go there to understand what is the point and how they judge things because from my point of view, it wasn't just that easy. At the end you have many other riders watching the incident, many other riders in Moto3 and Moto2 taking example of us, and this was a triple accident! Which I was never involved before.

“I ask them, 'How do you judge this?' because I don’t understand. And then we start asking, ‘OK so I was on the inside, I was on the correct line on the track yes? They were on the outside and coming back from a mistake so they were re-joining the correct line on the track, yes?

“'So, when you are in the right line who has the preference, the guy who is inside or the guy who is outside?' The guy who is inside. OK, so then whose fault [was it]? 'Well we already took our decision.’

“So finally they said if you don't agree with our decision, which I don't, make an appeal. But this meant I would say that I want Jorge to be penalised, because I don't agree with the decision. But what I want them to understand is that I don't want a penalty for Jorge, I want them to understand correctly what is happening on the track because they don’t.

“Firstly and most importantly it's because sometimes they don’t face the things. I came there, I could barely walk, and I went there walking and Mr Mike Webb didn't even want to join the meeting and he was next door. So I deserve a little bit more respect than this.”



Tells you everything you need to know about mike webb & rossi jury
 
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This has nothing to do with believing in himself, and has to do with him being an arrogant prick. Think about it, he DEMANDED Honda reward him for everything he's done which I'm hard-pressed to think of what it is he's done other than ruin RCV after RCV while throwing in the odd good finish and a couple of wins over 4 seasons. Demanding from HRC is egotistical and why I dislike him so intensely. He is in no position to be demanding rewards.

Cal needs to accept he isn't a frontrunner. He'll have his day when he is near the front, but he doesn't have the pace of Marquez and should stop trying to ride like he has it. He's a moron, could easily have good finishes and the occasional podium if he didn't try and override the bike. That Argentina win just over-inflated his ego and made him think he is suddenly a top rider which he isn't. He won a mixed conditions race that had it not been for the ride-thru on MM, he wouldn't have come close to winning that race. Of course he did win the race because he took advantage of what was given to him.

Let's see if he learns anything at Le Mans or if he chucks the bike down the road again trying to be something he isn't.


He's now asking for > https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/895414/1/crutchlow-lacking-carbon-fibre-grip
 
Oh look, the ultimate fanboy returns, how surprising! :lol:

Oh look, the ultimate stalker returns, not surprising! :lol:

I'm still around when Rossi doesn't win....

Translates to "I'm always here." :lol: Don't worry. I'll only be here another seven or eight times. :lol:

Rossi nowhere in the picture yet half the posts are about him, per usual. The obsession with Rossi on this forum is crazy (from both his fans but even more so his haters).

You don't get it. The "forum" doesn't hate Flossy as much as it hates the Valiban. Flossy without the Valiban would just be another backmarker rarely mentioned.
 
You don't get it. The "forum" doesn't hate Flossy as much as it hates the Valiban. Flossy without the Valiban would just be another backmarker rarely mentioned.

Well actually the Valiban haven't kicked any riders off their bike or deliberately broadsided any other riders. Yet.
 
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Crutchlow and back to back wins just don't go together,i'm starting to warm to the guy if he could only quit waving his arms at everyone like he owns the ....... track,with the pace he has he should get on the podium but i've a feeling he's gonna bin it again..

Ladies and Gentlemen...as predicted pre-race....Crashy is back!....time to resurrect the Crashy Crutchlow thread methinks..
 
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No article from Emmett yet. He's got the part done about sanctioning Marquez and he tagged on the part asking for money to cover his research costs but he can't think of anything good to say about Rossi. He even asked Oxley for ideas.
 
Well actually the Valiban haven't kicked any riders off their bike or deliberately broadsided any other riders. Yet.

More than a few have come here to boo and try to kick "the haters" off this forum. I hear they're afraid to come on here when JPL is posting.
 
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No article from Emmett yet. He's got the part done about sanctioning Marquez and he tagged on the part asking for money to cover his research costs but he can't think of anything good to say about Rossi. He even asked Oxley for ideas.

He is not unintelligent.

He is facing the impossible, which is to conjure a consistent narrative which encompasses the Argentina incident and the incident the past weekend.
 
He is not unintelligent.

He is facing the impossible, which is to conjure a consistent narrative which encompasses the Argentina incident and the incident the past weekend.

Don't worry, he'll ........ his way into some "convenient" narrative to avoid having to answer why he labels one as reckless riding and the other as a racing incident.
 

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