Bat, you know my original reply was a lighthearted in-yo-face push back to your 'look at us' gloating. Ha! From your post, I know I'd get along with you straight away, though on this point we would disagree. So, here is a bit on the subject mi amigo...
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So in reality, what your saying Jumkie is that the rest of the world is too slow, dense, dumb or disinterested to have caught Spain/Dorna in what looks to be a perfect take over without ever realizing it. I guess it could have been that Italy were too mesmerized by Rossi and thought he would be king for eternity, Germany ...... GP and figured they had F1 in the bag, US had too many other top tier sports to worry about GP, and Great Britain and Australia-well they were busy fighting over some ashes...
And what's more surprising is that Dorna/Spain were cleaver enough to pull this majestic take over while you and other conspiracy sleuths were on watch! You guys are really slipping.
Dominant eras need two things to happen: winners and losers. Right now, looks like the world is loosing. Buena suerte!
Not at all. This has been the common mistake made by most who don't understand the dynamic. Dorna is not a country! Its a private entity who has decided (for various reasons) to advance particular causes (VR for his marketability on the heels of his natural talent and persona), and particularly Spanish riders (detrimentally to non-Spaniards). Its not a far fetched concept, when you OWN and CONTROL every aspect of the sport one can influence the ingress and egress of a defacto closed group of contestants, its not that difficult to understand this would then lead to results respective to this net effect. Notice now you have Dorna trying to reverse this high successful manipulation because its got so out of hand for the appearance of a 'world' championship.
Currently there is a "reality series" (ironically) that follows certain contestants for the WWE called '
Total Divas'. I was flipping through channels one day and stumbled on it. Watched a couple of episodes because I found some aspects and insight about "sport entertainment' fascinating. I recommend you watch a few. You'll have to watch and sift through stupid stuff to get to and gain any insight into what I'm talking about. People are simply not aware at how much control, even down to subtle details, executives of private entertainment ventures exert on the show; why, because they understand how it exploits their audience. We often talk about Dorna like bumbling idiots, but that is because we operate with an erroneous assumption/ premise of what is their intent/purpose. Actually Dorna, Carmelo have been highly affective managers of their business, shrewdly maneuvering and advancing their cause; increasing its popularity (that is value) for their entertainment venture. Often the retort to this assertion is, if they are dictators, why don't they just do 'insert superficial argument here'. They understand they must maneuver as best they can within our (the audience) framework of assumptions, that is we still have to be led to believe its all a genuine contest (and many elements still exist). We think they are supposed to provide us with the parameters of an authentic competition, safety for its contestants given the hazards of the activity, livelihood, respect, parity, engineering development, and so forth. Our assumptions simply do not match theirs (Dorna/Carmelo), but they must maintain it does match, otherwise perhaps many would turn away.
The people who are asleep, as you say, are the ones who believe GP to be authentic, whose top contestants got their purely on their own means. Its safe to say, the riders themselves have achieved their skill through personal dedication, but the point here is more nuanced, as 'king building' has been employed to promoted some over others making the process not as pure as you think, therefore your gloating is tainted (whether you see it, accept it, or not friend). Those few who see the state of things in GP are not in a position to change it. We couldn't prevent it from happening any more than preventing DMG from acquiring the AMA. That doesn't mean the affect they have had on the series isnt manipulated.
I know for the most part GP is not scripted to the extent that is WWE, however, I contend many elements of WWE are employed in GP for similar affect for both results and its audience (there is a distinction here, often lost with those who disagree with me). I'm aware I get lots of detractors on this opinion, and often rebut my contention by saying 'the race results are not fixed, and conclude, therefore GP is not fixed', I assert this grossly misses the nuanced point I'm making. Without getting too much into it, as you know, I've written multiple posts extensively on this topic (much to the chagrin of many), consider this: the single most valuable part of this enterprise is the TV right, making the sport's monetary worth coming from its ability to provide one big infomercial, wrapped up in a compelling 'event of contestants'. You speak Spanish Baturro, have you ever seen the show '
Sabado Gigante'? This is what MotoGP has become. (
Sabado Gigante is an extremely successful variety show where "contestants" compete in several different "competitions"; some of these competitions are thinly disguised commercials promotion for a product/brand, the people sing product tunes, basically the show is one highly produced infomercial for multiple brands and products wrapped in various pseudo "competitions". Its highly entertaining, highly popular, (btw the "umbrella girls' on the show are hot) and its a staple of many Latin American Spanish speaking homes.)
MotoGP is a type of
'Sabado Gigante', but worse in some respects (where this show is produced solely to sell product via entertainment, none of its contestant's life-long dreams are propped or thwarted accordingly); MotoGP is a private business entity who's executives all Spanish, the most important of these Carmelo (nothing wrong with their nationality, except for his propensity to influence and shape rules, ruling & manipulate influence with intended consequence, often Spanish-centric) has become increasingly sophisticated. In addition, the people controlling the images you see, relatively an all-Spanish TV crew, are fashioning the production of images into a rolling billboard infomercial (along with the created storyline and mandatory emotion inducing garage shots) particularly for particular interests (not the least of them a rolling billboard for Repsol). I can already hear the common retort, well, its popular in Spain. Yes, which actually supports my contention, given the pressures of demand, that its steered in particular for their compatriot's success while detrimental for others to enter the domain. Last thought, Dorna recently secured a major TV deal detrimental to the common UK household but extremely lucrative for itself. This has coincided with a concerted effort to get more 'British representation' among its contestants, Makes sense if you look at it from a business perspective, you want people to buy the extra fee to now follow riders, as nationalistic pride is a very compelling motivation. I should mention (as I can already hear the common retort) simply because some riders are brought into the series for particular purpose doesn't mean those riders are not great rider (as often is the attempt to counterpoint this position in our debates on the subject, specifically recently with MM despite him being an outlier). More British representation makes business sense given the 'value' in which the TV deal was assigned, it follows the value would be protected in this way. I should also mention we should consider where these riders in terms of parity will appear on the grid, as there is insight to be had there too!
Anyway Baturro, lets put all this in a bit of perspective, as recently we have had members who have become obviously angry with this recurring debate, making me squarely the villain while expressing their feelings hurt. In the grand scheme of life, who wins MotoGP is of little to no Importance. However, allow me to make some correlations to my thoughts, here on the heels of "Columbus Day" (a day to commemorate a real villain of humanity). My thoughts are transported to the real looming crisis of our country, as it relates historically, ironically to Spain. We are on the cusp of repeating the same mistake the Spanish ruling class, once superpower, made leading to the eventual inconsequential country it has become. I hope we dont become another Spain.
