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WSB 2006

He just inked a deal with Ducati and I don't know for sure but I believe it is a two year deal. Can he do it next year? Ducati are going to need to make improvements, Neil has the talent to challenge Mladin but the 999 just can't keep up with the developed four cylinders in AMA spec. One of the reasons the 999 has been a bit down on power in the AMA is Shell is still yet to develop a leaded race fuel for Ducati, they have been running unleaded fuel all season whilst the rest of the teams are running race fuel. It is tipped that leaded race fuel is worth 7-10bhp.

Next year should be very interesting with Hodgson having a year of seeing the tracks under his belt, the Haydens entering the series, Honda hopefully becoming competitive again, Bostrom moving back to an inline four cylinder and Xaus hopefully joining the series.

No matter how many big names join the series, it is still Mladin's title and it will take an unbelievable season to dismount him from the number one spot.
 
Hogdeson is 99% to stay in the AMA. He will be there but I do not think he has the chance of winning the title. Unless some unfortunate turn of events happen to Mladin and his crew Mladin will win it again next year.

The new entry of the Kawis will bring a nice mix to it I hope that Yamaha jumps in there too. Spies should be a title challenger next year if he can stop Mladin from breaking away from the rest of the field so quickly.

Next year looks to be an exciting one for AMA Superbike. For the most part it looks to be an interesting fight for positions 2-5, we all know who is going to take #1 again...........
 
MCN this week-MV a definate for 2007-still no news on JT.
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so mv will run the full sbk season in 07. excellent. i think they'll be doin 6-8 rounds in 06, read it somewhere can't remember where tho.
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K watched some of WSB yesterday and picked up on some of the discussion in the pitlane!

Its seems very likely that Bayliss will be partnered with Lanzi for the works Ducati but Id say that is a gamble as Troy will probaly take a while to get back into the swing of it against much tougher opponents since he left the series.

Lanzi Maybe a flash in the pan hasnt done much more towards the end of this season.

Toseland rumoured to be offered a Duke ride in the AMA series which he really dosent want, due to Hodgeson advising him that series seems a tougher nut to crack.

Laconi no idea unless they run a 3rd Duke?

Saying that back to MotoGP?
 
Would there really be any interest in Laconi though? He's had his chance aboard the factory Ducati machine and couldn't get it done two years in a row. If he were a younger rider then I would give him a shot but at this point in time I don't see it happening, it would be more likely that he goes to the US instead of Toseland.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Troy will probaly take a while to get back into the swing of it against much tougher opponents since he left the series.

Oh Dazza please you've wasted an excellent chance to remain silent.

Now you can't hide you're a fool anymore.

Really he left when SBK was at its pinicale, to say the opponents are tougher now, what weed you on
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marbles @ Oct 10 2005, 07:51 PM)<div class='quotemain'>Oh Dazza please you've wasted an excellent chance to remain silent.

Now you can't hide you're a fool anymore.

Really he left when SBK was at its pinicale, to say the opponents are tougher now, what weed you on
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Hey M8,

I agree with your point when he left the series but as u know this wonderful world of 2 wheeled machinery moves on at a pretty fast pace

I like Troy and always have,

This is just my opinion and always good to have some needed debating time..

Thats what we are about.

K I put it another way...

Troy has been struggling in MotoGPfor a while, anyone can see that the bike dosent suit his style and he has been too inconsistent.

If Ducati thinks by bringing him back for 2006 he is going to be an instant winner I think there will be some dissapointments ahead.

Fair play to him its a different beast plus tougher competition.

In other words I feel Ducati are taking a gamble, he needs to get readjusted with the bike again if Teo or someone else can assist on the tecky side they are more than welcome. Thank you.

There will still be also some great main rivals in the series, Toseland, Corser, Haga, Vermeulen.... to name a few depending on whos where.

I predict Lanzi will have the edge if he becomes his teamate for the forthcoming season Much like the Melandri, Gibbers scenario in MotoGP, then we may see him come into his own 2nd half.

Now pass me that Doobie.
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Cheers Dazza mate, just wanted you to back up your argument. I'm not really a Troy fan, and I have to agree that Troy will not slot back in and start winning straight away, or if he will ever get to those heights again, I hope he does. All I'm saying is that era of SBK was a lot tougher than it is now.

IMHO SBK is still not quite up there yet, its going to be interesting to see how Vermudlin goes in GP to see how things match up but you just can't base it on one rider.

The single tyre has closed things up nicely but really from next year when all the bikes have good amount of development, you can start calling the seires tough again. Corser as Champion really!!! it dosn't stack up its a sign of a weak series

I was Impressed by Lanzi this weekend showed great patience, I reckon he might have had something for Vermudlen. He was a lot more considered in his approach than his barging ways in Germany. Could be a star of the future.

Oh and another reason I say SBK has been a weak series is look at last years champ on same machinery this year hardly fired a shot. Also look at his opposition last year, its not hard to figure

Cheers
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marbles @ Oct 10 2005, 11:52 PM)<div class='quotemain'>Cheers Dazza mate, just wanted you to back up your argument. I'm not really a Troy fan, and I have to agree that Troy will not slot back in and start winning straight away, or if he will ever get to those heights again, I hope he does. All I'm saying is that era of SBK was a lot tougher than it is now.

IMHO SBK is still not quite up there yet, its going to be interesting to see how Vermudlin goes in GP to see how things match up but you just can't base it on one rider.

The single tyre has closed things up nicely but really from next year when all the bikes have good amount of development, you can start calling the seires tough again.  Corser as Champion really!!! it dosn't stack up its a sign of a weak series

I was Impressed by Lanzi this weekend showed great patience, I reckon he might have had something for Vermudlen.  He was a lot more considered in his approach than his barging ways in Germany. Could be a star of the future.

Oh and another reason I say SBK has been a weak series is look at last years champ on same machinery this year hardly fired a shot. Also look at his opposition last year, its not hard to figure

Cheers
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Some good valids points there M8!!

Would be great to see the series become much stronger like it used, at the moment it looks like dumping ground for ex GP riders.. and of course hunting ground for prospective future GP stars!

I also think the other problem with myself & perhaps you Marbles and many other members here.

Is everything else pales in comparison to GP.

Apart from the TT!!
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wsbk will be back at it's best when all the factories are back at 100%.none of this back door ....! but it always has & always will be below gps.
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Has anyone heard any rumors of World Superbike returning to the USA for 2006?

I also just wanted to say that of the series televised in the USA, World Superbike consistantly impresses with the best actual racing of any class. paint swapping is standard
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There were rumors in the early stages of 2005 that a round for 05 would be added later in the year or else there would be a US round for 2006. The venues considered are Laguna Seca, Barber Motorsports Park, Miller Motorsports Park and my personal favorite, Road America.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Oct 11 2005, 01:18 PM)<div class='quotemain'>wsbk will be back at it's best when all the factories are back at 100%.none of this back door ....! but it always has & always will be below gps.
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I`d like to think WSBK and MGP could be simply viewed as different -I give them equal status for bravery and entertainment.
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So Bayliss is confirmed for a factory 999seat as is Lanzi.

Corser is confirmed for Suzuki.

Anything else concrete yet guys?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drill @ Oct 14 2005, 08:20 AM)<div class='quotemain'>I`d like to think WSBK and MGP could be simply viewed as different -I give them equal status for bravery and entertainment.
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i can agree with that brother drill! was'nt dissin wsbk just think it's a level down.
 
Yeah all the riders there are equally mediocre, so that produces an even playing field. Which is fun to watch.

WSBK = GP rejects club.
 
"WSBK = GP rejects club." Agreed

Good racing though and also agree "equal status for bravery and entertainment."

But it is a level BELOW GP, WSBK riders just don't rate amongst the GP guys. (except Nori)

Vermuelin on Suzuki nothing more than a grid filler.

It appears the WSBK riders do not have the same respect for tyres as the GP guys do and ride more agressively, I see Edwards this weekend said he changed his style to more 250 like more speed though corners and he is faster (pity its taken him so long to figure it out). Hopper said much the same a few weeks ago as well less agressive and you go faster. they are both ex SuperBike guys, I think its Bayliss problem as well.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marbles @ Oct 24 2005, 03:20 AM)<div class='quotemain'>It appears the WSBK riders do not have the same respect for tyres as the GP guys do and ride more agressively
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Its not a lack of respect, i see it more that they can get away with more on superbikes.
 
The tires SBK riders ride on aren't put through their paces as they are on a MotoGP machine. Handling 250bhp with higher corner speeds will work over a tire much more than 210bhp with a point and shoot style.
 

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