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Valencia GP 2013, Season Finale: RACE (spoilers)

quote name="lil red rocket pilot" post="367842" timestamp="1384129963"]

.... I do so dislike that little spanish ....!

He was gifted the fcuking title for ..... sake!

This place is going to be hell with all the MM cocksuckers round here next year!

 

Never thought I'd say this either but great effort from Lollo, the way he backed them up to try get others past MM was his only hand to play,

It didn't work so he checked out and won it just to make a statement, Bravo!

 

MM cocksuckers reply below![/quote]



You can hardly say gifted. A long consistent effort helped by JLo breaking himself along the way.




Are you only part time dyslexic?


:lol:
 
A question for the Spaniards: It's been mentioned a few times in this thread, and Toby and Jules discussed it frequently in the broadcast, but it seemed like Marquez had considerably more support than Lorenzo at the track. Is this because people are eager to get on the bandwagon early? Or because he's Catalan? Does Lorenzo being from Mallorca have anything to do with it? Sorry for the naive question, but I find Spanish provincialism to be rather fascinating.
 
The provincialism has nothing to do with the MM affair in this case.  Right now there is a bit of a rift between Cataluna, pais Vasco and most of the rest of the country.  There isn't that tension with the Baleares.   The tension lies with the "independentistas" that feel they would be better off as a separate little country without wanting to admit that without the support they have received by the nation, their region would not be where they are now.  Example, for the Barcelona Olympics, Barcelona and Cataluna were extremely happy to be Spanish and have Spanish support.  When if comes to large infrastructure such as highways or rail lines too.  You could say that they are Spanish when it's convenient and beneficial to them.  


 


All Catalans are not "independentistas," and actually a large part of what one would consider "historically catalan families and households" are very "Spanish."  There is a large part of the "independentista" crowd that is from first generation immigrant parents to cataluna.  


 


Marquez comes from the Lerida (Lleida) region and speaks catalan with his family.  But I would not consider him "independentista."  They might be, but hide it very well.  It would be horrible for his status as a national hero.  His popularity would plummet if it were the case.  


 


Marquez has a lot more support than Lorenzo.  Pedrosa is also more liked than Lorenzo.  Actually, Pedrosa may be less disliked than Lorenzo, if that makes sense...  Lorenzo is not liked because he is not personable and comes off as "too cool," hypocritical and his ego has overinflated as he has risen.  Marquez, even with his numerous championships and obvious greatness is still perceived as a nice neighborhood kid.  Fun loving and jovial.  


 


I think most Spaniards have been wanting a personable GP hero for a long time.  There is not much middle ground for JL.  Either they like him or hate him.  DP is liked, bla, but not really hated.  And MM is liked and the mass finally has someone they can all agree on.  


 


Hope that helps!  
 
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lil red rocket pilot
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.... I do so dislike that little spanish ....!


He was gifted the fcuking title for ..... sake!


This place is going to be hell with all the MM cocksuckers round here next year!


 


Never thought I'd say this either but great effort from Lollo, the way he backed them up to try get others past MM was his only hand to play,


It didn't work so he checked out and won it just to make a statement, Bravo!


 


MM cocksuckers reply below!
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16 out of 18 is all you need to remember, Thats what wins championships
 
Jumkie
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Congrats to Dorna/HRC/Marquez.  Their combined effort wins the title, well done and deserved.


 


Lorenzo, great title defense, having the tools to do so helps.


 


Pedrosa, worthless as always.


 


Hayden, goes out as top Ducati.


 


 


This has been an extraordinary season.  Many adjectives could be assigned to it. Both Lorenzo and Marquez have battled on the track resulting in success for both of them, more impressive for Marc being a rookie to the class. Both had to ride the bikes allotted, and both battled with those they were supposed to beat--so well done to them. To analyze this season, as it would for any, a bit more depth is required, as only an ignorant person would think the on-track results are gained straight up. The impact on the field of play from Dorna, MSMA, and its influential members, and ancillary principals have had just as much effect on the results as have their contestants.  To what extant?  And has that impacted the results enough to bring into question the legitimacy? The 4th bike in parc ferme should give anybody watching MotoGP pause to consider the implications of such a bizarre sight, one that despite being freakish, especially in the context of the history of this sport, has largely gone undiscussed and universally accepted. Dorna have imposed rules in such a way that changing any rule arbitrarily has provided its viewers the appearance of a legitimate championship.  It has worked.  
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Awe, c'mon. I think we can all aford to be a little more gracious to Dani. He scored a shitload better than Rossi all year round, yet there isn't all the bad-mouthing of Rossi. Rossi (who rode injury free this year) sucked ... all season long and he gets nothing but pats on the back and sympathy. If Lorenzo hadn't been riding insanely rough (in very fashion that some here have much pilloried Marquez in the not so distant past) Dani might well have got away and won the race. He has after all beaten Lorenzo many times. I thought he was a pretty cool customer at the interview the way he pushed aside the interviewer's opening to ..... about Lorenzo's desperate moves that left rubber up and down both sides of Dani's leathers. Personally - his strategy of passing of slowing down the pace dragged on too long and his needless continuous slamming into Pedrosa made him look like a petulant little kid extracting payback for a championship that he knew he couldn't win.


 


My favorite part of the race was when MM, waived Dani on to let him pass.
 
povol
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16 out of 18 is all you need to remember, Thats what wins championships
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I tell yah man.... there's enough cry-baby,  sour grapes on this forum to start a vinegar factory.
 
Keshav
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Awe, c'mon. I think we can all aford to be a little more gracious to Dani. He scored a shitload better than Rossi all year round, yet there isn't all the bad-mouthing of Rossi. Rossi (who rode injury free this year) sucked ... all season long and he gets nothing but pats on the back and sympathy. If Lorenzo hadn't been riding insanely rough (in very fashion that some here have much pilloried Marquez in the not so distant past) Dani might well have got away and won the race. He has after all beaten Lorenzo many times. I thought he was a pretty cool customer at the interview the way he pushed aside the interviewer's opening to ..... about Lorenzo's desperate moves that left rubber up and down both sides of Dani's leathers. Personally - his strategy of passing of slowing down the pace dragged on too long and his needless continuous slamming into Pedrosa made him look like a petulant little kid extracting payback for a championship that he knew he couldn't win.


 


My favorite part of the race was when MM, waived Dani on to let him pass.
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If you pay attention to the race, between the 1st minute and the ~20th, you can see that Lorenzo is totally playing with Dani, like "hey, don't try to get in front of me little ....." everytime Pedrosa tried to overtake him


 


And if you pay attention to the race, between the 1st minute and the last, you can see that Lorenzo always did what he wanted to do, when he wanted to. The only reason Pedrosa has been allowed to overtake him so many time (and thankfully it gave us a nice show to look at) is that Lorenzo didn't want to pull marquez away from torpedoman and rossi (and maybe others). If it wasn't for the championship, this would have been another boring race were Lorenzo finishes  6 seconds ahead of Marquez who'd have passed Dani in the 3 first laps, the latter trying desperately to catch up his rookie team mate, unsuccessfuly. 
 
baturro
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The provincialism has nothing to do with the MM affair in this case.  Right now there is a bit of a rift between Cataluna, pais Vasco and most of the rest of the country.  There isn't that tension with the Baleares.   The tension lies with the "independentistas" that feel they would be better off as a separate little country without wanting to admit that without the support they have received by the nation, their region would not be where they are now.  Example, for the Barcelona Olympics, Barcelona and Cataluna were extremely happy to be Spanish and have Spanish support.  When if comes to large infrastructure such as highways or rail lines too.  You could say that they are Spanish when it's convenient and beneficial to them.  

 

All Catalans are not "independentistas," and actually a large part of what one would consider "historically catalan families and households" are very "Spanish."  There is a large part of the "independentista" crowd that is from first generation immigrant parents to cataluna.  

 

Marquez comes from the Lerida (Lleida) region and speaks catalan with his family.  But I would not consider him "independentista."  They might be, but hide it very well.  It would be horrible for his status as a national hero.  His popularity would plummet if it were the case.  

 

Marquez has a lot more support than Lorenzo.  Pedrosa is also more liked than Lorenzo.  Actually, Pedrosa may be less disliked than Lorenzo, if that makes sense...  Lorenzo is not liked because he is not personable and comes off as "too cool," hypocritical and his ego has overinflated as he has risen.  Marquez, even with his numerous championships and obvious greatness is still perceived as a nice neighborhood kid.  Fun loving and jovial.  

 

I think most Spaniards have been wanting a personable GP hero for a long time.  There is not much middle ground for JL.  Either they like him or hate him.  DP is liked, bla, but not really hated.  And MM is liked and the mass finally has someone they can all agree on.  

 

Hope that helps!  
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Very helpful. Thanks!


Oh, and if you ever have any questions about Minnesota (other than "Why is it so ....... cold?!?!), give me a shout.
 
Congratulations to Marquez for having to beat a worthy opponent in a very tough and long championship. For a rookie to get a handle on such complex bikes is remarkable. Whatever you think of him, he has brought some life back into the races.


 


Lorenzo did everything he could in that race, but it wasn't enough. Slowing the pace up as much as he did was a great strategy but he got carried away with it when Pedrosa took him on and screwed it up when he running Dani to the edge of the track and letting Marc through. Marc was smart and used to opportunity to break up the 5 man pack and from there it was a cruise (!) to WC glory. If we ever hear Lorenzo complain again about riders making tough passes, race direction should slap him. He pretty much braked checked Dani on one occassion, but their battle was a great reminder of how they used to do it in the 250's.


 


Nakamoto will give Bautista a nice pat on the head for not only avoiding any torpedo incidents, but actually being an effective rear gunner for a while.


 


At LOL at how much Lorenzo slowed the pace up, yet most of the Satellite riders still couldn't get close to keeping up. Even Rossi couldn't make a pass (btw, good luck beating Pol next year). It has nothing to do with the bikes, they are just slow riders compared to the top 3.


 


I love motorcycle racing.
 
Lorenzo rode like a ....... - I was expecting the wag of the finger from Pedrosa after the race.... Congrats to Marquez.


Lorenzo seriously made himself look like a ....... in that race... 
 
tobalsan
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If it wasn't for the championship, this would have been another boring race were Lorenzo finishes  6 seconds ahead of Marquez who'd have passed Dani in the 3 first laps, the latter trying desperately to catch up his rookie team mate, unsuccessfuly. 
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If it wasn't for the championship being on the line, Marquez would've been in full killer mode, instead of cruising around at 9/10ths... JLo would have been lucky to finish in front by 0.6 of a sec or maybe not at all! ;-)
 
Sloth_27
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If we ever hear Lorenzo complain again about riders making tough passes, race direction should slap him.
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+1


For every time I've heard people on here bagging the crap out of Marquez for his overtaking moves, I can now say for certain that JLo has pulled an equal number of ...... moves on others... Especially during the last couple of months!


I guess that ultimately Marquez has had the last laugh :)
 
muzzy57
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+1


For every time I've heard people on here bagging the crap out of Marquez for his overtaking moves, I can now say for certain that JLo has pulled an equal number of ...... moves on others... Especially during the last couple of months!


I guess that ultimately Marquez has had the last laugh :)
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I interpret that the same way I interpret JLo now dragging his elbow. He's decided to meet Marquez with his own game.
 
Sloth_27
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At LOL at how much Lorenzo slowed the pace up, yet most of the Satellite riders still couldn't get close to keeping up. Even Rossi couldn't make a pass (btw, good luck beating Pol next year). It has nothing to do with the bikes, they are just slow riders compared to the top 3.

 
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This.


My favorite part of the post-race press conference was when Lorenzo said he tried to slow the pace but the guys behind still couldn't keep up. The look on his face was priceless, as if he was saying, "those losers don't belong on the same track as us."
 
Cheating .....


Marquez is the first rookie to win the premier class world title since Kenny Roberts became 500 World Champion in 1978


At the age of 20 years and 266 days Marquez is the youngest rider to win the premier class world title,

taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years and 258 days of age when he won the 500 title in 1983, also riding a Honda


Marquez is just the fourth rider in the 65-year history of Grand Prix racing to win world titles in three different categories,

along with: Mike Hailwood, Phil Read and Valentino Rossi


Qatar, Marquez became the fourth youngest rider of all-time to finish on the podium in the premier class of Grand Prix racing,


At the first race of the year, Marquez set a new record for being the youngest rider ever to take the fastest lap of the race in the premier class, at the age of 20 years and 49 days.


His win at the Grand Prix of the Americas, at the age of just 20 years and 63 days, made him the youngest ever rider to win a premier class Grand Prix,


Qualifying on pole position in Austin, at the age of 20 years and 62 days, made Marquez the youngest ever rider to qualify on pole in the premier class,


The victory in Austin also made Marquez the youngest ever rider in the 65-year history of World Championship Grand Prix racing to have won in three different classes,


Marquez is the first rider to have won on either their first or second start in the premier class for 15 years,


He is the first rider since Jorge Lorenzo in 2008 to finish on the podium in his first two races in the premier class


After podium finishes at the first two races, Marquez had joint leadership of the Riders’ Championship with Jorge Lorenzo and is the youngest rider ever to lead the premier class standings,


The win in Austin also gave Marquez the record of being the youngest ever rider to take back-to-back podium finishes in the premier class,


At the Spanish Grand Prix, Marc Marquez became the youngest rider to finish on the podium at three successive premier class GP races,


At the French Grand Prix, he became only the second rider to finish on the podium in his first four races in the premier class;

the other rider to have achieved this was Max Biaggi in 1998


The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win back-to-back races in the premier class of Grand Prix racing,


His wins at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca also made Marquez the first rookie in the premier class to win back-to-back races since Kenny Roberts, in Austria and France in 1978


His win at Indianapolis made Marquez only the second ever rookie in the premier class to win three successive GP races; the other is Kenny Roberts, who won in Austria, France and Italy in 1978


The victories by Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca and Indianapolis give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win three successive racesin the premier class


His win at the Czech GP gave Marquez the record of being the first rookie ever in the premier class to win four successive GP races


His win at MotorLand Aragon was the sixth win of the year – the greatest number of wins ever in the premier class by a rookie rider


The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca, Indianapolis and Brno give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win four successive races

in the premier class of Grand Prix racing, a record previously held since 1962, set by Mike Hailwood


Marquez has finished in the top three 16 times in 2013 - the greatest number of podium finishes ever by a rookie in the premier class


He has qualified on pole position nine times in 2013 – the greatest number of pole positions ever by a rookie in the premier class.


His points’ total of 334 is the greatest number of points ever achieved during a rookie season in the premier class

 
 
Pigeon
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Cheating .....


Marquez is the first rookie to win the premier class world title since Kenny Roberts became 500 World Champion in 1978


At the age of 20 years and 266 days Marquez is the youngest rider to win the premier class world title,

taking the record from Freddie Spencer who was 21 years and 258 days of age when he won the 500 title in 1983, also riding a Honda


Marquez is just the fourth rider in the 65-year history of Grand Prix racing to win world titles in three different categories,

along with: Mike Hailwood, Phil Read and Valentino Rossi


Qatar, Marquez became the fourth youngest rider of all-time to finish on the podium in the premier class of Grand Prix racing,


At the first race of the year, Marquez set a new record for being the youngest rider ever to take the fastest lap of the race in the premier class, at the age of 20 years and 49 days.


His win at the Grand Prix of the Americas, at the age of just 20 years and 63 days, made him the youngest ever rider to win a premier class Grand Prix,


Qualifying on pole position in Austin, at the age of 20 years and 62 days, made Marquez the youngest ever rider to qualify on pole in the premier class,


The victory in Austin also made Marquez the youngest ever rider in the 65-year history of World Championship Grand Prix racing to have won in three different classes,


Marquez is the first rider to have won on either their first or second start in the premier class for 15 years,


He is the first rider since Jorge Lorenzo in 2008 to finish on the podium in his first two races in the premier class


After podium finishes at the first two races, Marquez had joint leadership of the Riders’ Championship with Jorge Lorenzo and is the youngest rider ever to lead the premier class standings,


The win in Austin also gave Marquez the record of being the youngest ever rider to take back-to-back podium finishes in the premier class,


At the Spanish Grand Prix, Marc Marquez became the youngest rider to finish on the podium at three successive premier class GP races,


At the French Grand Prix, he became only the second rider to finish on the podium in his first four races in the premier class;

the other rider to have achieved this was Max Biaggi in 1998


The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win back-to-back races in the premier class of Grand Prix racing,


His wins at the Sachsenring and Laguna Seca also made Marquez the first rookie in the premier class to win back-to-back races since Kenny Roberts, in Austria and France in 1978


His win at Indianapolis made Marquez only the second ever rookie in the premier class to win three successive GP races; the other is Kenny Roberts, who won in Austria, France and Italy in 1978


The victories by Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca and Indianapolis give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win three successive racesin the premier class


His win at the Czech GP gave Marquez the record of being the first rookie ever in the premier class to win four successive GP races


His win at MotorLand Aragon was the sixth win of the year – the greatest number of wins ever in the premier class by a rookie rider


The victories by Marc Marquez at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca, Indianapolis and Brno give him the record of the youngest rider of all-time to win four successive races

in the premier class of Grand Prix racing, a record previously held since 1962, set by Mike Hailwood


Marquez has finished in the top three 16 times in 2013 - the greatest number of podium finishes ever by a rookie in the premier class


He has qualified on pole position nine times in 2013 – the greatest number of pole positions ever by a rookie in the premier class.


His points’ total of 334 is the greatest number of points ever achieved during a rookie season in the premier class

 
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Thanks for all the effort you put into keeping us all informed Pidge....much appreciated.
 
2013-11-11 01:55


    Yamaha Factory Racing can confirm that Silvano Galbusera will join the

Team from today in the position of Crew Chief for rider Valentino Rossi

for the 2014 MotoGP season.




The appointment follows the announcement that Jeremy Burgess would no

longer continue with Team following the Valencia Grand Prix weekend.


Silvano began his career in motorcycle racing in 1979 with Gilera,

spending 14 years working on both road racing in the 250cc world

championship with riders such as Alessandro Gramigni and Paolo Casoli

and also worked off road on African Rallies such as the Paris-Dakar with

Michele Rinaldi. He then moved to Cagiva in 1994 and worked in the

500cc world championship with John Kocinski.


The following year saw Silvano arrive in the Yamaha family where he

remained until 2011. During his time there he worked as both a Crew

Chief and Technical Director in World Superbike and World Supersport,

guiding riders including Troy Corser, Noriyuki Haga, Cal Crutchlow and

Ben Spies to multiple race wins and of course the 2009 World Superbike

Championship title. For 2012 and 2013 Silvano worked with Italian Marco

Melandri in BMW’s World Superbike team.
 

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