Stoner frustrated

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 3 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]98367[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
and i lol every time i see your posts pervy pinky, i just imagine you on your hong kong ... holidays



lol are you sure pinky isnt CSCVAW? kind of split personality lolol, from same place , like same riders , like same tracks, both accounts setup the same year month?? maybe he created the CSCVAW account first realised acting like a child doesnt work so created the pinky account and now hes struggling to keep the child within lol.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Nov 3 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]98371[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
lol are you sure pinky isnt CSCVAW? kind of split personality lolol, from same place , like same riders , like same tracks, both accounts setup the same year month?? maybe he created the CSCVAW account first realised acting like a child doesnt work so created the pinky account and now hes struggling to keep the child within lol.

nah, im pretty sure there all different people, austraila like most places have there fair share of idiots, it wont last as there runnng out of crap to spout. the season is nearly over and so are they

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 2 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]98236[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
depends how you look at it.... Hayden was top of the pile last year.

and before people say he was not a worthy champ he was consistant enough and didn't have a red ducati either



He sure was. Numbers dont lie, right?

The thing is, Hayden did a great job last season, and he's a very good rider, but I rate Casey higher than him. Casey isn't talking crap, cause a lot people dont give him the credit he deserves. He did an amzing job this season. Rossi had one of his worst seasons in years. I do think Valentino is still good enough to win the title, that's why I really hope he'll have a competitive bike next year. Casey will only get better. He won the title. That should give him a lot of confidence. I think, given the right equipment, he can win again next season. But like other people already said, winning the title in one thing, defending it, is another story. That's why next season will be even more interesting!

I really can't believe all this ........ surrounding Stoner. He has had an awesome season thus far and has dominated this season. To say the bike is the reason is world champ or the tyres, then they are clearly deluded. Capirossi is on the same bike and has been at Ducati for a while now, but he hasn't even been close to Stoner.

So all these excuses are nonsense.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 06:13 AM) [snapback]98525[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I really can't believe all this ........ surrounding Stoner. He has had an awesome season thus far and has dominated this season. To say the bike is the reason is world champ or the tyres, then they are clearly deluded. Capirossi is on the same bike and has been at Ducati for a while now, but he hasn't even been close to Stoner.

So all these excuses are nonsense.


pacman...ur a very wise and very intelligent man!!! that is all i can say!!! and this is the most intelligent and forceful comment that ive ever read in 2007 about stoner, and i must agree!!! how true!!!

good onya mate!!! youre a legend!!! its a pity that some dont realise this or cant acknowledge the facts of 2007 motogp season!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 3 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]98525[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I really can't believe all this ........ surrounding Stoner. He has had an awesome season thus far and has dominated this season. To say the bike is the reason is world champ or the tyres, then they are clearly deluded. Capirossi is on the same bike and has been at Ducati for a while now, but he hasn't even been close to Stoner.

So all these excuses are nonsense.


Well if he was on another bike he wouldn't be dominating the season would he?

This glory hunting stoner is ok for me up to a certain point but lets not get carried away.

He just happens to get on well with a very good bike and did a great job this year but he wants individual credit which hes not gonna get until the ducati has some competition or rossi switches tyres and Melandri becomes his team mate.

also you are comparing him to Capirossi who never won a premier title and is in the twilight of his career thats very creditable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 3 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]98538[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Well if he was on another bike he wouldn't be dominating the season would he?
Oh really? Says who, you?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 3 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]98538[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
He just happens to get on well with a very good bike and did a great job this year but he wants individual credit which hes not gonna get until the ducati has some competition or rossi switches tyres and Melandri becomes his team mate.
This is what i'm talking about, people saying it's the bike. It's a load of rubbish. So it's Stoners fault that he hasn't had any competition? Give me a break. At the end of the day Ducati has produced an incredible bike and the other teams haven't done their homework and have fallen short compared to Ducati. Oh and isn't Melandri using the same tyres as Stoner?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 3 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]98538[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
also you are comparing him to Capirossi who never won a premier title and is in the twilight of his career thats very creditable.

You just said it yourself, it's the bike that has won him the title not his natural abilities, if so, then Capirossi should be up there with Stoner but he's not which means that theory is flawed. It just shows how good of a racer he is.

I think people are pissed that Rossi hasn't won the title.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Nov 3 2007, 08:33 AM) [snapback]98330[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
its more his voice, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdK_7YJrZcM

check out the youtube comments, and no their not mine


I LOL at your spelling. It's they're.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]98668[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Oh really? Says who, you?


Can you tell me different because Stoner has only done well on this bike.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]98668[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
This is what i'm talking about, people saying it's the bike. It's a load of rubbish. So it's Stoners fault that he hasn't had any competition? Give me a break. At the end of the day Ducati has produced an incredible bike and the other teams haven't done their homework and have fallen short compared to Ducati.



You say its not the bike then you praise the machinery.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]98668[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Oh and isn't Melandri using the same tyres as Stoner?


Thats different hes not on a factory machine this year but watch out next year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 12:53 PM) [snapback]98668[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
You just said it yourself, it's the bike that has won him the title not his natural abilities, if so, then Capirossi should be up there with Stoner but he's not which means that theory is flawed. It just shows how good of a racer he is.


Its clear capirossi's style doesn't suit 800 he wants to throw the bike around which doesn't work now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 4 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]98823[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
You say its not the bike then you praise the machinery.


Just because I praise the machinery doesn't change my opinion, I still stand by my comments.

Rossi fans can't take the fact that he got beaten fair and square

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]98831[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Just because I praise the machinery doesn't change my opinion, I still stand by my comments.

Rossi fans can't take the fact that he got beaten fair and square


I can... Rossi has nothing to prove hes a champ on every level and a legend so whatever happens now happens.

Today Pedrosa won the race because his machine was good, just like Stoner has been able to do.

Fact is Stoner fans you know Dani has Stoners head for dinner in the past and its only a matter of time before Dani wins the championship

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Spaish4EVA @ Nov 4 2007, 06:27 AM) [snapback]98531[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
pacman...ur a very wise and very intelligent man!!! ...

Wait, i don't think your the right man to be commenting on wisdom or intelligence are you?

Sheesh, for a man thats 'Spanish4EVA' and Pedrosa's number one fan, you sure do love Stoner alot..

You almost love him about as much as this guy CSCVAW did, once, a long time ago, when this forum sucked..

It's starting to suck again..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 5 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]98831[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Just because I praise the machinery doesn't change my opinion, I still stand by my comments.

Rossi fans can't take the fact that he got beaten fair and square



Sounds like something I'd have to write!!

Well said Pac.


Ae you sure you aren't me??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 4 2007, 10:44 PM)

Just because I praise the machinery doesn't change my opinion, I still stand by my comments.

Rossi fans can't take the fact that he got beaten fair and square laugh.gif
which rossi fan's are you talking about ? or are you just being a troll by stereotyping ?
most "rossi fans "here just love the racing regardless of who wins and for the past 2 seasons now have excepted rossi lost. if your going to make a fleeting statements like that ,you could at least quote who and what they said !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 5 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]98908[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
which rossi fan's are you talking about ? or are you just being a troll by stereotyping ?
most "rossi fans "here just love the racing regardless of who wins and for the past 2 seasons now have excepted rossi lost. if your going to make a fleeting statements like that ,you could at least quote who and what they said !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 4 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]98841[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Fact is Stoner fans you know Dani has Stoners head for dinner in the past and its only a matter of time before Dani wins the championship


I wouldn't say that Dani had Stoner's head for dinner at any time, never mind in the past, which is just that, history and we are now in a new era of bigger bikes with more all round technology.

But, DP has impressed me at times this year and finally I have started to see some of the hype that surrounded him, although still not enough to make me think that he will dominate as some have predicted. I wonder if he had to much pressure placed upon him this year (ie. media, team and also Rossi rating him the 'nearest competitor) and as once the WC appeared out of reach he seemed to ride extremely well (does conincide with second half of year though and more bike development).

For mine the change of the guard is underway with CS and DP soon to become the hunted by the other young guns (as well as the older hands).





Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Snorvey @ Nov 1 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]98043[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Funny innit?

Rossi won for years on a machine that was hugely, nay massively, dominant over every other manufacturers offering.....people seem to forget that.





I think you have forgotten that rossi chose to leave Honda to go to a lesser team - Yamaha . What he did with the bike was incredible.
I accept stoner has done well this year but i dont think you can use those arguments as stoner is on the best bike of this year and did nothing on the bike he was on last year.

A s a rossi fan this is my opinion

Rossi - As a commentator said rossi used to be the luckiest rider ever and he still is in terms of never having a bad acident, howevr, the unreliability of the yamaha is beginning to show more than ever. Michelins have suffered this year and rossi as a result along with pedrosa/hayden. Rossi is still riding incredible such as at assen.

IMO -Stoner cannot expect to have the status of rossi from one world championship. Rossi has built up his reputation and fan base over ten years and stoner does come across as whiny by going on about it to the media as it is not the first time i have heard this argument,

Stoner - Bike - best this year, tyres greatly improved, rider - also greatly improved.

I think if stoner can consecutivelydo this then he may get close to what rossi has but i dont see how people can make suggestions that he could be the next doohan etc when he's won for one year, a year which has been the wierdest moto gp year ever?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tinks @ Nov 5 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]99028[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
IMO -Stoner cannot expect to have the status of rossi from one world championship. Rossi has built up his reputation and fan base over ten years and stoner does come across as whiny by going on about it to the media as it is not the first time i have heard this argument,


True its not that i hate Stoner or didn't think he did a great job this season.
Its just some of his fans on here think he deserves legend status for one good season.
Even Stoner thinks he deserves it as well which is not that modest.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 5 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]98908[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
which rossi fan's are you talking about ? or are you just being a troll by stereotyping ?
most "rossi fans "here just love the racing regardless of who wins and for the past 2 seasons now have excepted rossi lost. if your going to make a fleeting statements like that ,you could at least quote who and what they said !


That is utter bollocks. The amount of ........ Hayden had to endure last season because he won and Rossi didn't was bollocks. Now it's happened to Stoner and people still can't take it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>Today Pedrosa won the race because his machine was good, just like Stoner has been able to do.

Fact is Stoner fans you know Dani has Stoners head for dinner in the past and its only a matter of time before Dani wins the championship

So what, the past is gone. Stoner has won the most important title in the sport.

Oh and by the way I am not a crazy fanboy like CSCVAW, and I don't think Stoner deserves legendary status because of one championship but he does deserve to be praised for his excellent performance throughout the season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pacman @ Nov 5 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]99043[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
That is utter bollocks. The amount of ........ Hayden had to endure last season because he won and Rossi didn't was bollocks. Now it's happened to Stoner and people still can't take it.
So what, the past is gone. Stoner has won the most important title in the sport.

Oh and by the way I am not a crazy fanboy like CSCVAW, and I don't think Stoner deserves legendary status because of one championship but he does deserve to be praised for his excellent performance throughout the season.

but you dont specify ant particular debates to back up your claim, you just use a stereotypical generalization, so who's talking bollocks . you cant just use the " phantom rossi fans "to close a case. put up or shut up!