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I posted it purely to get a reaction from you, which is what I got
My "If and when" was regarding Lorenzo's move to Ducati, not whether it will win races. As I recall you seem convinced of Ducati wins the last time a WC joined them.
No way, you do it because you just can't help it -- proof is, you always do it that I post or not. It's called compulsion, or obsession.
I read you right man, -- I was informing you that Lorenzo has already signed with Ducati, so "if and when" is obsolete. There is not doubt that this Ducati is going to win races -- it's rather surprising it didn't already.
What Rossi got in 2011 was a bike that, with Stoner on it, ended the 2010 season in 4th place. Next year Lorenzo will get the the latest version of a bike that Stoner considers capable to win the title.
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The scary thing with Marquez is I don't even believe he has hit his prime yet. MM would likely beat both the current riders if given a GP16. Pretty sure he'd win on the M1 as well regardless of it being a ride-on-rails bike. But all that aside, MM would be the best choice on the grid to ride a Ducati. His fast and loose style would be perfectly suited for the bike.
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Actually I would love to, but it has to be done manually every post, sometimes I forget. I don't like it either.
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I'm crossing this date on the calendar JPS -- jeez, -- I totally agree with you.
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It's why I said somewhere recently, Ducati went after the wrong guy, they should have backed up a truck full of money into Marquez's driveway.
Lorenzo may win a race here and there, but his on track career is going into oblivion. Thing is, like Povol said, at this stage of his life combined with the way he's wired, he may be electing this option on principle; who can fault him for that? Look man, Yamaha have obviously .... all over their once team culture of honor, Lin Jarvis has made that abundantly clear. I get the sense Gigi is a stand up guy who obviously convinced Stoner to join Ducati, I can't imagine the exchange with Lorenzo was much different. If Lorenzo is looking for men of principle, he may have just found one.
Sure, I just think it is unfair to say he would rate with Jorge, who has won 3 titles, if not for various conspiracies, we have enough of that. Whether or not there have been conspiracies in general I see absolutely no evidence of any in Jorge's favour.
My opinion of him is that he is a very accomplished journeyman. If he got better equipment when Dani was out, well Dani was out quite a lot, and he still didn't much look like winning let alone dominating dry races. When HRC tired of not winning with Dani as lead rider, they got Stoner, unpopular with multiple parties though he was, when it surely would have been simpler to just upgrade Dovi's bike if that would have worked. I found years ago I had to rate Jorge as at least equal to, and possibly better than, Stoner in general terms if not on any bike in any conditions.
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Georgie smokes him all day once he gets up to speed on the Duc. Pedrosa easily faster, probably the least adjustment of the bunch. Vinalez, I give 60/40 change of being faster. Rossi, 50/50.
I think the Duc's are faster than they have shown so far this season due to Iannone crashes everyone.
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I agree with that, the smart play would have been to go after MM because in GP you need a rider who can ride around any issues a bike has, or is capable of riding around changes to a bike made because of rules changes. Stoner was the only guy who could do that in the 4-stroke era. If MM was going to be riding the GP17 I am certain Ducati would win the world title. Early prediction here is MM bags the title this year and the next two years as well since Lorenzo just cut his own throat. Still makes me wonder why Gigi was so insistent on Lorenzo instead of MM? Unless Stoner might have said MM's entourage isn't what Ducati wants.
I like people who are principled for the most part, but their weakness is pride. Leaving Yamaha I guess was inevitable once Lin Jarvis made it abundantly clear he was going to support Rossi through everything. Lorenzo backed himself into a corner and decided leaving was the only option. If he wanted to be assured of winning, Yamaha was the safe bet in spite of all the Rossi-centric BS. Freedom comes with a price and I hope he is ready for it.
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The thing about Jorge prior to 2014 (and after 2008, although probably not fully in his pomp till 2010) was incredible consistency. He didn't excel in other conditions as much as he did in full dry conditions, but he didn't finish 5th or DNF either.
I had a (very) protracted debate elsewhere with a French Rossi fan much crazier and more persistent than any ever seen on here, who contended before Rossi's renaissance that VR's poor results in 2013 and relatively poor results in 2014 were due to Jorge wrecking the Yamaha to suit a 250 riding style. I think at worst when the HRC bike (and MM) were rampant before Yamaha got their own seamless gearbox the only way Jorge could be competitive was to ride an exaggerated ultra smooth corner speed style on the high edge grip tyres from which he could draw unique pace riding that way. Perhaps he now can't change from that riding style, but whether because of this or Assen 2013 I do think something has changed with how he rides in mixed or to a lesser extent wet conditions.
I do agree with you obviously that VR is better than Jorge in mixed conditions, although not as good as Stoner in such conditions, and on worn tyres, and didn't dispute the Frenchman that VR might be able to contribute more than Jorge to the overall quality of the Yamaha bike.
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Whats getting swept under the rug is that after week 3, Hondas #2 alien bike is basically out of the championship and in danger of finishing outside the top 4.
This is Pedrosa's 10th failed year on an alien bike.
This is Pedrosa's 10th failed year on an alien bike.
Word in the Spanish motorsport news is that HRC is quite content with Dani being on the team. More importantly, HRC is content not rocking the boat on the Marquez/Pedrosa partnership. Dani has a ton of experience and is not a threat to Marquez. They also get along and there is no turbulence between them. HRC is bankin on Marquez maintaining and increasing his level of racing, so they arn't really searching for the next star just yet.
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
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Makes sense to me as well. I hope it's true.
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If one were to guess, how many people in the world hold a racing license? From kids on scooters to ysr 50's, dirt trackers, club racers, privateers, and professionals around the globe. A conservative guess would be a million. Maybe more, maybe less but still a huge number. What do these people all have in common? They all dream about winning a Moto GP championship.
Out of the hundreds of millions of motorcycles that tread around the earth only 4 of them can do this. Out of these 4 bikes arguably only 2 of the riders can win a championship. So two of the most valuable motorcycles in the world should not be raced to win? Rather they should be paraded around on Sunday because the rider is harmonious with others?
Yeah. Makes total ....... sense
Makes sense to the ones that make the decisions. Their task is to ensure the team wins a championship. How they do it is a heavily considered decision. In a team there is always the star and the supporting cast. Dani seems to have been selected as a supporting cast by choice or by default, but seems to be fitting the role.
Ferrari had a similar modus operandi in the F1. McClaren and now Mercedes seem to have a different view on how to run a team. Historicaly, Ferrari has been more successful at winning championships that the other 2. Again, the job of the team boss is to ensure the team wins the championship.
Makes total ....... sence.
Ferrari had a similar modus operandi in the F1. McClaren and now Mercedes seem to have a different view on how to run a team. Historicaly, Ferrari has been more successful at winning championships that the other 2. Again, the job of the team boss is to ensure the team wins the championship.
Makes total ....... sence.
