He's always tres rapide from the get go....everyones catching up though!!
Good to see Guintoli up there!
Good to see Guintoli up there!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 11 2008, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>lets start.
stoner on top again
nice... you know the winner before the game begins
stoner on top again
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spooky @ Jul 11 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He's always tres rapide from the get go....everyones catching up though!!
Good to see Guintoli up there!
and why the duck wouldnt you?
you go as fast as you can when you can. its not like hes got limited amount of petrol. or in haydens case, talent
Good to see Guintoli up there!
and why the duck wouldnt you?
you go as fast as you can when you can. its not like hes got limited amount of petrol. or in haydens case, talent
The hondas are looking fast
Stoner is not nearly as far ahead of rossi in fp1 as at assen, and as we keep saying valentino does need to set up the yamaha on the bridgestones at each new track. Betwin or those punting with them may be premature in switching the odds.
Hopefully we might get an interesting race.
Stoner is not nearly as far ahead of rossi in fp1 as at assen, and as we keep saying valentino does need to set up the yamaha on the bridgestones at each new track. Betwin or those punting with them may be premature in switching the odds.
Hopefully we might get an interesting race.
The winner of the past two Grands Prix, and the dominant rider in free practice and qualifying at said events, continued to impose his will on the premier class in Sachsenring. Reigning World Champion Casey Stoner emerged from the opening practice session for the Alice Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland with the fastest time of the morning, a 1´22.318 turn of the German circuit.
Frequently impressing in practice, if not quite mirroring the results in the races themselves, Alex de Angelis once again attracted attention onboard the San Carlo Gresini Honda. The San Marino rider recorded a late lap just under three-tenths of a second slower than Stoner´s marker, relegating Valentino Rossi to third on the timing screen.
Last year´s race winner and current MotoGP World Championship leader Dani Pedrosa was fourth fastest, the quickest Michelin-shod rider of the session. Behind him, Andrea Dovizioso and Shinya Nakano made it four Hondas in the top six.
Tech 3 Yamaha´s Colin Edwards headed countryman Nicky Hayden, LCR Honda rider Randy de Puniet and Fiat Yamaha´s Jorge Lorenzo in the top ten, whilst returning rider Loris Capirossi experienced a slow start in Sachsenring as he tested out his forearm condition fllowing his Assen crash
Frequently impressing in practice, if not quite mirroring the results in the races themselves, Alex de Angelis once again attracted attention onboard the San Carlo Gresini Honda. The San Marino rider recorded a late lap just under three-tenths of a second slower than Stoner´s marker, relegating Valentino Rossi to third on the timing screen.
Last year´s race winner and current MotoGP World Championship leader Dani Pedrosa was fourth fastest, the quickest Michelin-shod rider of the session. Behind him, Andrea Dovizioso and Shinya Nakano made it four Hondas in the top six.
Tech 3 Yamaha´s Colin Edwards headed countryman Nicky Hayden, LCR Honda rider Randy de Puniet and Fiat Yamaha´s Jorge Lorenzo in the top ten, whilst returning rider Loris Capirossi experienced a slow start in Sachsenring as he tested out his forearm condition fllowing his Assen crash
1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 22.318 secs
2. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 22.582 secs
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 22.617 secs
4. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 22.759 secs
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 22.999 secs
6. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 23.038 secs
7. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 23.132 secs
8. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 23.214 secs
9. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 23.360 secs
10. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 23.449 secs
11. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 23.462 secs
12. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 23.627 secs
13. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 23.728 secs
14. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 24.086 secs
15. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 24.117 secs
16. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 24.486 secs
17. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 24.646 secs
2007 German GP - 30/06/2007:
Pole position: Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro (B) 1min 22.384secs
Fastest lap: Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda (M) 1min 23.082secs
Toseland binned it on his third lap.
2. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 22.582 secs
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 22.617 secs
4. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 22.759 secs
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 22.999 secs
6. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 23.038 secs
7. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 23.132 secs
8. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 23.214 secs
9. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 23.360 secs
10. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 23.449 secs
11. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 23.462 secs
12. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 23.627 secs
13. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 23.728 secs
14. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 24.086 secs
15. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 24.117 secs
16. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 24.486 secs
17. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 24.646 secs
2007 German GP - 30/06/2007:
Pole position: Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro (B) 1min 22.384secs
Fastest lap: Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda (M) 1min 23.082secs
Toseland binned it on his third lap.
Pedrosa and Dovi both down in practice 2 already - both ok.
Stoner's just done at 1.21.7 - faster than Pedrosa's 2006 pole time.
Stoner's just done at 1.21.7 - faster than Pedrosa's 2006 pole time.
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Even though Stoner dropped it with 5 mins to go he is so far ahead of anyone else that I think they're all going to be fighting for 2nd.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 11 2008, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even though Stoner dropped it with 5 mins to go he is so far ahead of anyone else that I think they're all going to be fighting for 2nd.
Agreed. Looks like its going to be another boring race on Sunday, might plan a trip to the beach instead.
Agreed. Looks like its going to be another boring race on Sunday, might plan a trip to the beach instead.
Free Practice 2
1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 21.582 secs
2. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 21.993 secs
3. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 22.463 secs
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 22.796 secs
5. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 22.894 secs
6. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 22.922 secs
7. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 22.974 secs
8. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 22.975 secs
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 23.093 secs
10. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 23.116 secs
11. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 23.209 secs
12. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 23.274 secs
13. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 23.366 secs
14. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 23.411 secs
15. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 23.452 secs
16. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 23.698 secs
17. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 23.864 secs
1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 21.582 secs
2. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 21.993 secs
3. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 22.463 secs
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 22.796 secs
5. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 22.894 secs
6. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 22.922 secs
7. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 22.974 secs
8. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 22.975 secs
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 23.093 secs
10. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 23.116 secs
11. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 23.209 secs
12. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 23.274 secs
13. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 23.366 secs
14. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 23.411 secs
15. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 23.452 secs
16. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 23.698 secs
17. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 23.864 secs
I didn't see any film of stoner's crash. Was there any evidence of a carbon fibre chassis
?
I repeat again that even as a stoner fan I believe that the 800cc formula was poorly considered and that it looks increasingly as though they need to devise a better one quickly. It is also pretty obvious though that riding the ducati fast does require a reasonable amount of input from casey and that he is still pushing close to the edge, perhaps unnecessarily in fp2 to play psychological dominance games.
It is getting a bit tired to hear the continued refrain from some that when other riders do well it is due to their skill but that casey stoner uniquely in the field succeeds by technical advantage.
I repeat again that even as a stoner fan I believe that the 800cc formula was poorly considered and that it looks increasingly as though they need to devise a better one quickly. It is also pretty obvious though that riding the ducati fast does require a reasonable amount of input from casey and that he is still pushing close to the edge, perhaps unnecessarily in fp2 to play psychological dominance games.
It is getting a bit tired to hear the continued refrain from some that when other riders do well it is due to their skill but that casey stoner uniquely in the field succeeds by technical advantage.
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