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As if a black flag in sepang would have done him any favors. Weird.
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As if a black flag in sepang would have done him any favors. Weird.
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I guess he is saying he would rather start the last race with a points deficit on his bogey track which just happens to be Lorenzo's favorite. That's ........ is what it is.
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I like how Bunydipshit starts off with "Stop the crap guys. Enough is enough."
Real genuine. You really weren't trying to get a reaction, where you? You're a modern mediator, you've appeared to defuse a spat...by making one of your own. Oh what to do with a troll like you?
You didn't bother to realize this thread had died. And decided to go after one of thee most reasonable and level headed members in MikeM, with the added benefit of gathering a fly or two, fitting, flies are attracted to ..... Maybe you should dig up some more flame wars since you crawled out of whatever bunny hole you've peaked out from. Rich you'd ask about Talpa, since you're his mirror image, leaving in a fit of tantrum after the guy you root for left. Looks like you've gathered a bit of strength. Your ability to gauge around you hasn't changed. I suspect you'll leave soon enough, once you get challenged to debate something logically, a real struggle for you. Talk about "gutless" you've taken this opportunistic position here remembering how stupid I used to make you look in debate, that's what this is about. Stop pretending you're here to take a moral stand against a flame war by...wait for it, creating a flame war out of thin air. I'm sure you'll have an aneurysm again, lashing out and then disappear soon enough.
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He's also been moaning about how Marquez "Betrayed him"...Only friends when he beats him? He's a fine one to talk.
Pov, may I throw a conspiracy theory there .........
Is this Rossi's way of trying to distance himself (public only mind) from the new penalty system that people have insinuated was implemented as the direct result of the Sepang actions?
I take this a Rossi suggesting that an in race penalty was 'deserved' if he had breached where this whole penalty system is about post race breaches.
Thoughts?
There are black flags (DQ) and black flags (Ride Through) penalty options.
A DQ would have been no good but a Ride Through would have placed him down the order but still in some points
Or you could look at it as Rossi trying to shift blame once again and absolve himself by insinuating that if the offence really was that bad that 'it should cost him the world championship', he should have been black flagged
disingenuous
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not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.
"this journalist was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical"
synonyms:dishonest, deceitful, underhand, underhanded, duplicitous, double-dealing, two-faced, dissembling, insincere, false, lying, untruthful, mendacious; More
What ad hominem did I engage in btw? I could point out that your every post on this thread including this most recent one is largely composed of ad hominem, doubtless entirely justified in your case because you are on the side of truth and justice.
Since you ask, I am a pompous arrogant old git, much like Keshav or Bunyip, but hopefully with a little more insight than possessed by those 2, or you, who would seem rather likely to be a pompous arrogant younger git if assessing the character of posters is compulsory as your posts on this thread would seem to indicate.
I wrote a one line post saying the thread had been dead, and expressing the opinion it was better that way, and was flamed for doing so, to which I am always happy to respond as I am doing in this post.
As opposed to the likes of you and Keshav, who constantly sit in judgement of others, I made one post in this thread about the flame war with the intention of letting you and others see what had upset Jumkie and his friends, which you and Keshav don't seem to at all understand, and I had previously understood imperfectly; I did this partly because Jumkie had said his friends were not supporting him, and I value his participation in the forum greatly. Jumkie even spelt out his concerns for you subsequently, but you of course couldn't let that interfere with your fixed view of the matter.
Since we are into character assessment and you are happy to assess mine, I find your sig referring to punk rock, a movement which started 40 years ago this year, or which was first labeled as such then anyway, somewhat pretentious, giving me the impetus to be pretentious in turn. I found reference to punk rock particularly amusing given I avidly went out to see the involved local Australian bands, several of whom pre-dated the English"punk" bands, at the time in my late teens. I have a vivid memory of "New Rose", the first "punk" single which was released before any release by the ... Pistols, being played at the venue where "Radio Birdman", the most famous of the Australian bands, customarily performed, although while I still love "The Damned" including that song they don't seem particularly "punk" at 40 years remove.
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I guess dementia is an age thing.
Out the blue you mouthed me off saying my mind would be incapable and such and such. Maybe I'll find the time tomorrow to quote that post.
That is awesome that you watched punk bands! Please tell me more! Is the music history lesson an attempt to cover the fact that you know jack about racing?
Seriously though. Those with 2 brain cells know that you talking about punk rock because i have a nofx lyric in my sig is a very cheap and futile attempt at....what exactly?
Show off that you're more punk? I eat canned ravioli and smoke hash out of beer cans so i win.
Out the blue you mouthed me off saying my mind would be incapable and such and such. Maybe I'll find the time tomorrow to quote that post.
That is awesome that you watched punk bands! Please tell me more! Is the music history lesson an attempt to cover the fact that you know jack about racing?
Seriously though. Those with 2 brain cells know that you talking about punk rock because i have a nofx lyric in my sig is a very cheap and futile attempt at....what exactly?
Show off that you're more punk? I eat canned ravioli and smoke hash out of beer cans so i win.
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.... it ,might as well back it up now.
I never had any quarral with you. You started out the blue. No problem with that but please don't get senile on me and twist the facts
Touche. As it happens I did remember I had made the post to which you refer as well, after I had made my most recent previous post.
As it also happens it was you who finally drew me into the fray by your post to which I made that reply which did annoy me, and I stand by calling that post stupid not least because of ignorant assumptions made by you, if not calling you yourself stupid, although you have not exactly helped yourself since then.
In the post concerned you appeared to be acclaiming a post by Keshav as a zinger, despite it containing exactly the kind of egregious deeply personal insult, in this case of Jumkie as a husband and family man, that has caused all the bitterness, and I can only conclude that you, like Keshav, can't differentiate between this and essentially playful badinage involved in the discussion of gp bike racing, which by its nature is of course essentially trivial. I even gave you an opportunity to join the dots about the matter concerned, concerning which Keshav at best had misinterpreted a joke, given that Roger had chosen to get married on the Monday immediately following the race, had come to the US with his whole family and hence was hardly in a position to visit any Mexican whorehouses, with or without Jumkie, and that Roger's wife was an active participant in the forum at the time, the latter making it unlikely in my doubtless senile view that he and Jumkie would be seriously discussing visiting a whorehouse on the forum.
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Well here's the opportunity i give you to join the dots (again).
Idgaf about the parties involved . I like this forum. I like kesh. He's been nothing but friendly, honest and helpful to me. Can't say the same about others.
And in my opinion, which you can either respect or not, it is much more the other guys than kesh that ruin this forum. For me this is a matter of fact. Agree to disagree if you like.
If you don't like my humor that's fine. But attacking me for no reason, trying to be a smartass about music with no understandable motif and then having your ... handed back to you rhetorically by someone not half your age that learned the language as a teenager makes you look foolish.
That being said I'd like to add that i like casey stoner. *bro fist*
Now can we please all get back to racing?
Edit : tbh i don't read most of the posts. So forgive me if i won't respond to the particulars of this shitshow. I ,like most, can't be arsed to go through all these 2000 word posts that offer absolutely nill.
Idgaf about the parties involved . I like this forum. I like kesh. He's been nothing but friendly, honest and helpful to me. Can't say the same about others.
And in my opinion, which you can either respect or not, it is much more the other guys than kesh that ruin this forum. For me this is a matter of fact. Agree to disagree if you like.
If you don't like my humor that's fine. But attacking me for no reason, trying to be a smartass about music with no understandable motif and then having your ... handed back to you rhetorically by someone not half your age that learned the language as a teenager makes you look foolish.
That being said I'd like to add that i like casey stoner. *bro fist*
Now can we please all get back to racing?
Edit : tbh i don't read most of the posts. So forgive me if i won't respond to the particulars of this shitshow. I ,like most, can't be arsed to go through all these 2000 word posts that offer absolutely nill.
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So you "handed my ..." to me by pointing out that I was old, when my whole point was that punk rock was 40 years ago? If anyone is over-rating their intellect I fear it is you. You also continue to make judgements while decrying others for doing so.
I again have no problem with discussing bike racing with Keshav, we found common purpose long ago as Stoner (and Hayden) fans when that was very much a minority position here as well as everywhere else.
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If you really haven't caught on then i am honestly astonished how you gathered such a vocab with such an underwhelming intellect. Then again i guess anybody can stick a longman up his .... Its surely enough to impress lesser minds. The point was that you had none. No reason to speak,nothing substantial to say and in the end nothing achieved.
I can ask you the same question as you asked me earlier in the thread, why do you feel the need to keep replying then?.
Perhaps oddly, whatever my deficiencies in general, and great though those may be, I feel no pressing need to have my intellect validated by a hipster such as you on a motogp forum.
I generally seek to make no judgement of the character of posters, and our dispute started with me decrying a post of yours rather than being intended to personally insult you. Since you seem intent on continuing a dispute despite your protestations to the contrary, what I do find objectionable here and in general is self righteousness. If you can't see that using personal information gained while drinking someone else's beer to criticise/insult that person and his friends, whom you met only because of his hospitality, quite frequently when concerned about losing a debate about bike racing on a bike racing forum, something essentially trivial pretty much by definition, is more deeply uncivil however "politely" phrased than anything Jumkie et al might have done, then again I fear it is you who has the IQ limitation.
I have never made any criticism of your grammar, syntax or spelling btw, your ability in English is very impressive given it is your 3rd or 4th language, and I am impressed in general with people who have a knack for languages, which I myself don't particularly have. If you are going to throw down in English on an English language forum I don't see that responding in my own usual English idiom is grounds for criticism either though.
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Chill sid vicious. Tl;dr
. You started it, i offered a truce and you keep acting like a deuce now.
Idgaf about they're spat ,no matter how long you try to force the issue. You completely lost the argument old man. No matter how many insults you come up with. Logic isn't a popularity contest
. You started it, i offered a truce and you keep acting like a deuce now.
Idgaf about they're spat ,no matter how long you try to force the issue. You completely lost the argument old man. No matter how many insults you come up with. Logic isn't a popularity contest
So you made the profound leap in logic that I am older than you after I told you I had followed the punk movement, reference to which you would seem to think confers on you some sort of cachet, at its actual time (Einstein will be quaking in his grave at being so comprehensively eclipsed), and this allows you to self proclaim victory in a debate you claim we were having?
Woe is me. I am totally undone. What a trap you laid for me.
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This guy is like Keshav* the .... that comes out of this guy's mouth never ends.
This is how this thread started, and then the perpetrator, with his sycophantic tribe, tried to rewrite history, and make out Kesh as the troll! Am I missing something?
I think its kind of funny. I can see Rog, the jailed drug lord running his operations form D block in maximum security. A long time ago, in a private email, Keshav said something that Rog perceived as derogatory. THEN, Rog decided to make this public on a public forum. So, without Rogers action, this would have remained a private matter. Remember this, because this is the key fact.
Then all out war broke out and took a long time to settle down. Then the stroppy tribe started lashing out at many respected targets, especialy Krop. Then, the malcontents scurried off to neverland to create their own special forum, presumably for those with special needs. This forum almost died and then remarkably it grew from the ashes. All was looking good until, out of the blue, the stroppy ones decided to wage a systematic and co-ordinated character assassination of Keshav for a second time. Why? Roger must have sent out a new directive. Having read through this thread has been quite a depressing experience, seeing grown men behave like 8 year olds. Keshav occasionally responds to all the baiting, and the stroppy ones take massive offense at anything he says (and it all seemed quite restrained and reasonable to me). So tell me please, Jumkie et al, why did you begin all this for a second time , when it was long buried?
This is how this thread started, and then the perpetrator, with his sycophantic tribe, tried to rewrite history, and make out Kesh as the troll! Am I missing something?
I think its kind of funny. I can see Rog, the jailed drug lord running his operations form D block in maximum security. A long time ago, in a private email, Keshav said something that Rog perceived as derogatory. THEN, Rog decided to make this public on a public forum. So, without Rogers action, this would have remained a private matter. Remember this, because this is the key fact.
Then all out war broke out and took a long time to settle down. Then the stroppy tribe started lashing out at many respected targets, especialy Krop. Then, the malcontents scurried off to neverland to create their own special forum, presumably for those with special needs. This forum almost died and then remarkably it grew from the ashes. All was looking good until, out of the blue, the stroppy ones decided to wage a systematic and co-ordinated character assassination of Keshav for a second time. Why? Roger must have sent out a new directive. Having read through this thread has been quite a depressing experience, seeing grown men behave like 8 year olds. Keshav occasionally responds to all the baiting, and the stroppy ones take massive offense at anything he says (and it all seemed quite restrained and reasonable to me). So tell me please, Jumkie et al, why did you begin all this for a second time , when it was long buried?
Michael, I was referring to Abbott and Trump as people who create their own version of reality. I never suggested that they were ever respected. That would be just crazy! Abbott was even worse than I could imagine, and that is saying something. I celebrated when he was deposed ,and the relevant First Dog On The Moon cartoon was absolutely spot on.
The thoroughly humiliating and extremely satisfying demise of Tony Abbott | First Dog on the Moon | Opinion | The Guardian
Also, this is pure gold!
Surely we have to take some responsibility for electing this giant man baby? | First Dog on the Moon | Opinion | The Guardian
However, it is sad to see that the deal Turnbull did with the extreme right of the party has constrained him totally. He is looking a bit pathetic. As Midnight Oil said "It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees"
ps. I am still struggling to understand how you could sit idly by while Keshav was being hounded, and then put a boot in as well , while he was still on the ground.
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Yes, you did, quite a lot actually. You didn't stop to consider what the * (SE) was all about did you? Of course not, you came back from your rabbit hole and are now trying to reignite this thread.
* SE stands for Social Experiment, I placed it there as a premarker to snatch exactly a person like you, a person with double standards, an ignorant fool, one who would take the bait like a bottom dwelling crayfish. I won't take the time to explain it for you, but I'm laughing that you even included the * in your quote.
How many stitches did it take to fix your wrists Bunydip? I see you've healed up enough to work a keyboard. It's obvious you're not here to provide us with any insight, we've already hashed out every detail of this flame war while you were still nursing yourself back to strength, your sole purpose is to align yourself against me as a couple have done because all those debates you've lost over the years still sting. Oh look that other guy is having a flame war with Jum, let me get in on it, just like a coward; it's why you're here now, trolling for responses to settle old scores. You're not fooling any of the old timers Bunydip. Your "key facts" are as accurate as your timing on this thread. Its a tangent but not the root cause. Like I said, why don't you drag up another old flame war while you're at it. Hey, maybe you can dig up that old thread that made you go ballistic like Talpa when you just couldn't handle actual racing debate, that at very least had less personal substance. I'm laughing about it now remembering your feeble reactions.
Let me quote you: "Stop the crap guys. Enough is enough." Then proceeded on attacking. Hahaha you're the real voice of reason, aren't you.
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