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Kesh, nobody is going to make another truce with you, because it's futile to seek such an agreement. How are you missing the EXACT message being repeated to you? Here is all you need to know: Don't start nutin there won't be nutin with me!

(Don't even reply to this post. I don't need to know you understand. Your silence on this point not only will suffice, but it IS the point. Resist, exercise self control, move on, nothing to see here.)
 
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Keshav said:
I won't get into he said - she said; just leads to more bickering. Nobody here seems to acknowledge the concept of a general amnesty. Nobody here acknowledges that it takes two to tango. Seems like all parties believe their behavior has been beyond reproach. Seems nobody thinks anyone's point of view is relevant - except theirs. Everybody believes themselves blameless. Makes me feel prospects for an amnesty are unrealistic. I can only hold my end of the proposed truce as long as others do the same. See what happens.
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Again, here's the problem with the shared blame/"two to tango" claim: it disregards that the only reason anything occurred is because of you.

What you are doing, it's victim blaming....kind of like if someone said, "That Nicole Brown Simpson, she shouldn't have dated Ron Goldman, she had to know how jealous Juice would get. You don't piss off Juice. But she played with fire and got burned."

Most rational people would say that line of thought was insane.

Anyway, there is no proposed truce here. It's up to you to refrain from bad behavior, and if you can't refrain, then you should not get pissy when you get called on it.

Pro tip: You could even apologize to the people you have transgressed, and offer a sincere apology while admitting to being completely at fault.
 
Jumkie said:
Kesh, nobody is going to make another truce with you, because it's futile to seek such an agreement. How are you missing the EXACT message being repeated to you? Here is all you need to know: Don't start nutin there won't be nutin with me!

(Don't even reply to this post. I don't need to know you understand. Your silence on this point not only will suffice, but it IS the point. Resist, exercise self control, move on, nothing to see here.)
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Not a dog. Won't be spoken to like one. You're right - it's futile.
 
Keshav said:
Not a dog. Won't be spoken to like one. You're right - it's futile.
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Futile? lol

Kesh, all he asked you to do was prove you are interested in letting things die off by having the self-control to not respond. You had to reply though, and try and make it about you being victimized.
 
Stop the crap guys. Enough is enough.

Jumkie and your cohorts , get off your high horses and get back to Rogerland. You guys are ruining the forum, not Keshav.
 
michaelm said:
I will say this once, because I do see the irony in criticising you for criticising others, and I try to restrict myself in general to arguing against the opinions of others with which I disagree rather than judging their characters, obviously not always successfully.

Many posters find all this argy bargy tedious; cf Sparrows' post, in which she comments as a relatively recent and presumably less biased observer that it is two-sided as well as tedious.

Your general contention would seem to be that Jumkie et al should accept that you are their intellectual and moral superior, and all would be sweetness and light on the forum. It should hardly be surprising to you that they don't, and you are clearly causing them at least as much offence as they are causing you, but apparently for some reason in your view it is justifiable and reasonable for you to take offence but not for them to do so. I have to confess I thought they were a little over the top and didn't understand quite why they were so offended by you, but now I do; cf Birdman's posts on this thread where he is as insightful as he is in regard to bike racing, which is how I came to my better understanding of Jumkie et al's grievance.
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Michael, it is not up to you to determine when or when not a comment is appropriate.

Further, I find your above quote the height of gutlessness. It is quite clear that Keshav is being bullied in a systematic and co-ordinated attack by some of the less savoury forum members, and you respond, not by restraining them, but by siding with the numbers , and hence showing a significant paucity of moral character. You should have a good look at yourself.
I have read through all of Keshavs posts and find nothing remotely similar to the relentless and vitriolic attack by the " gang of four". I thought you were a bit more discerning than that.
 
Bunyip said:
Michael, it is not up to you to determine when or when not a comment is appropriate.

Further, I find your above quote the height of gutlessness. It is quite clear that Keshav is being bullied in a systematic and co-ordinated attack by some of the less savoury forum members, and you respond, not by restraining them, but by siding with the numbers , and hence showing a significant paucity of moral character. You should have a good look at yourself.
I have read through all of Keshavs posts and find nothing remotely similar to the relentless and vitriolic attacksaid I wouldn't make further comment a by the " gang of four". I thought you were a bit more discerning than that.
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Said I wouldn't make further comments, and won't, but thought the thread had mercifully died which was a consummation devoutly to be wished imo. I suggest you read Birdman's comments (he is a relative latecomer and also generally sensible, again imo) which altered my perspective, but I don't really care whether you do or don't.

I trust the vague implication that Tony Abbott was ever respected on the other thread was not your intention, or I might question your discernment.
 
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Bunyip said:
Michael, it is not up to you to determine when or when not a comment is appropriate.

Further, I find your above quote the height of gutlessness. It is quite clear that Keshav is being bullied in a systematic and co-ordinated attack by some of the less savoury forum members, and you respond, not by restraining them, but by siding with the numbers , and hence showing a significant paucity of moral character. You should have a good look at yourself.
I have read through all of Keshavs posts and find nothing remotely similar to the relentless and vitriolic attack by the " gang of four". I thought you were a bit more discerning than that.
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You are wasting your time trolling me. I can't be bothered to reply to anything you have to say on the forum. The more you attack me - the more stupid you look. Nothing you say will get a rise out of me and nobody (you might have noticed) really cares to interact with you because you bring nothing to the discussion of racing - which apparently you know nothing about. So go ahead with your idiotic rants. Waste your breath all you want.
Have a nice life.
 
michaelm said:
Said I wouldn't make further comments, and won't, but thought the thread had mercifully died which was a consummation devoutly to be wished imo. I suggest you read Birdman's comments (he is a relative latecomer and also generally sensible, again imo) which altered my perspective, but I don't really care whether you do or don't.

I trust the vague implication that Tony Abbott was ever respected on the other thread was not your intention, or I might question your discernment.
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Y u keep talking then?
 
Dr No said:
Whom did thou encounter?

Vicious Circle?
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Radio Birdman, the Saints and the rest of the Australian scene mainly, whom I saw in their actual time, and hence I listened to all the nascent punk bands from the UK which were embraced by that scene back then, although the UK stuff was all really after the Ramones. I also had all the Detroit records which inspired those bands, which were unprocurable at the time, as well.
 
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Bunyip said:
Stop the crap guys. Enough is enough.

Jumkie and your cohorts , get off your high horses and get back to Rogerland. You guys are ruining the forum, not Keshav.
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So does that mean like if we were to respond to your senseless attack on us, it would be our fault? Yea I remember you, you used to love getting a rise out of people. Go back to your hole, and let sleeping dogs lie.
 
Sorry to .... up a Rossi thread with something related to Rossi, but he says he would have rather been penalized at Sepang than starting last at Valencia. I guess that depends on what kind of penalty he thinks he could have got at Sepang other than black flag or DQ. Personally , I think he is still making excuses for choking late in the season and he inadvertently kind of admits it the same article when he says he would rather finish stronger than start the season strong. He knows he faltered, Marquez is just a handy crutch
On the rules changes:
http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/interview/rossi-renew-calling-quits/
“I haven’t really understood what they’ve changed. However people have said that they never penalise me but that clearly isn’t the case. It would have been better to have been penalised in Malaysia than to have my chances ended in Valencia"
 
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michaelm said:
Why do you?

I suspect I encountered punk rock rather before you did, btw.
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Typical. You got absolutely nothing to say (except when stoner gets mentioned, then u go into fanboy overdrive) and go ad .... with someone you attack without any prior provocation. Attack the argument,not the speaker. Whats that post supposed to mean? That i should feel sorry for you that you're old now? Gtfo.
Even in my 4th language i don't have to stoop to those levels to display superior intellect.
 

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