Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered”

povol said:

Rossi will not allow Marquez to win another title as long as he is racing, and vice versa. All it takes is a couple of dnf's these days to eliminate a rider from contention. This can be accomplished without even drawing the ire of rd, with a racing incident here and there . This will end ugly with one of them seriously injured or worse

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That assumes Rossi can be more competitive than last year and MM won't learn to adjust to the bike and new rubber. Also- considering how much scrutiny Rossi has brought upon himself - I reckon he's going to ride cleaner. RD has taken so much criticism this last year - that one would expect they're going to be more prepared and more decisive in the new season.


I agree Rossi's declared of war - is more about getting himself psyched. It's starting to sound like an old man sitting on his porch telling kids to get off his lawn.

Totally disagree. He have no reason to ride cleaner, he saw the massive support he`s enjoying, from media, fans and Dorna, so, as i said, no reason to tame down one bit.

As for the RD, they, again, start to move heaven and earth to please him: institute a new panel of stewards, dumb down the penalty system entirely, doing anything they can to not upset the sad, bitter clown.

#22 said:

Everyone is biased to a certain rider/s WV, But I think the issue in this forum, particularly post Sepang, was the barrage of pro Rossi from Harryjones05.

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Richy56 said:

but in a dog fight at the end of the race he hangs it all out and I like that. I hope he takes it to the 46.

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Like he did @ Valencia with his team mate?

nomad said:

Like he did @ Valencia with his team mate?

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Yes, your teammate is the first guy you try to beat. Like Rossi tried to do all season. But a teammate isn't the only guy you have to beat otherwise GP would be a race between two riders for each garage where everyone must move aside and clear the track so you can go toe to toe, like Rossi proposed. The thing is in MotoGP you have to beat all the other guys on the track at the same time.

Just like Rossi did to Lorenzo in 2010 at Motegi. Ok for him to do it, but Marquez, well that was just wrong wasn't it?

Keshav said:

That assumes Rossi can be more competitive than last year and MM won't learn to adjust to the bike and new rubber. Also- considering how much scrutiny Rossi has brought upon himself - I reckon he's going to ride cleaner. RD has taken so much criticism this last year - that one would expect they're going to be more prepared and more decisive in the new season.


I agree Rossi's declared of war - is more about getting himself psyched. It's starting to sound like an old man sitting on his porch telling kids to get off his lawn.

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You can't be any more competitive than losing the title on the final weekend. They will be in each other's proximity all year , not sure why you think they wont

povol said:

You can't be any more competitive than losing the title on the final weekend. They will be in each other's proximity all year , not sure why you think they wont

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Rossi had a lot of luck working for him last year with Lorenzo's two helmet mishaps and the Hondas not getting sorted out til mid season. He's another year older and realistically at some level must know there isn't another championship in the cards. If the Hondas do get well sorted out Marquez will be concentrating on getting away at the front wherever possible and not being cute with Rossi. Marquez is ready for another championship and will stay clear of Rossi whenever possible. He will be more interested in winning than creating further controversy.

Keshav said:

Rossi had a lot of luck working for him last year with Lorenzo's two helmet mishaps and the Hondas not getting sorted out til mid season. He's another year older and realistically at some level must know there isn't another championship in the cards. If the Hondas do get well sorted out Marquez will be concentrating on getting away at the front wherever possible and not being cute with Rossi. Marquez is ready for another championship and will stay clear of Rossi whenever possible. He will be more interested in winning than creating further controversy.

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So you think in 18 races, they will not cross paths. Like I said, it only takes a couple of racing incicidents to remove someone from contention

May be it's just me but do we genuinely even care that these two guys have no 'friendly relationship'?

These two will not be the first, nor last riders who have not liked one another and yet have found themselves competing against the other at championship (and in some cases, team) level.

Yes it is of interest should an incident occur and no doubt, depending on the side of the fence on which you find yourself the hatred and past comments will either be evidence of intended wrongdoing, or ........ chatter and blustering with no intentional follow through.

So Rossi does not like Marquez and he blames what he perceives to be a real and personal slight, whereas many observers see it as a paranoid over-reaction to a poor season close out with a need to deflect blame from one's own potential shortcomings. ...., if this is the case Rossi is not the first athlete who has found it difficult to accept loss or failure and as a result has gone looking for a scape goat, and nor will he be the last.

Marquez, well it has to be said, he can find controversy as it has followed him throughout all of his categories and shows no signs of abating, but I also suspect that whilst he may not court it he does embrace and enjoy it as afterall, he is a business and building a brand so publicity of any kind is welcome.

Bah, personally I say let the racing begin as whilst the sniping will continue it will be the results that speak the loudest at the end of the day.

Well... It's called drama Gaz and it's good for business. That's all. It's a publicity campaign and we are not in the target demographic: simple as that.

Rossi is rapidly becoming irrelevant.

If he wants to channel Donald Trump or Tony Abbott with a similar version of deluded personal reality, then that is fine for him; however the rest of us are not idiots and we can see what really is...............a once respected champion descending into a pit of delusion and conspiracy theories. His natural talent is no longer enough, so he must resort to gamesmanship to give himself the hint of a chance. Little does he realize that his actions are self-defeating, futile and quite embarrassing to witness.

The way things are panning out, most of us will be relieved when he departs. It will only be the boppers that will shed tears on his retirement. ( Now where is Talpa?)

And don,t even begin to talk about his legacy!

povol said:

So you think in 18 races, they will not cross paths. Like I said, it only takes a couple of racing incicidents to remove someone from contention

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That's not at all what I implied Pov. Don't be so pedantic. I'm saying MM won't go out of his way to play games with Rossi - but given the right circumstances- will get past him and go about the business of winning. And when circumstances dictate - he'll settle for points gains rather than half a season of DNFs.

And regardless of the custard crusaders willingness to turn a blind eye to Rossi's shenanigans - I think RD will be on notice to make smarter decisions; and Rossi, having tried every trick in the book to get decisions reversed in his favor - knows better the limits is his influence. He's really going to be under the microscope this year.

Custard crusader.

Cool Blue said:

Well... It's called drama Gaz and it's good for business. That's all. It's a publicity campaign and we are not in the target demographic: simple as that.

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Fully realise it is drama and my suspicion is that it is orchestrated to maintain the maximum exposure for the two combatants with each having chosen their respective sides.

Shame of it all is that there is a lot of embracing of this ........ going on and it is overshadowing the season buildup and I personally fear that it will overshadow the season as this is all about the two largest ego's and not the sport

Bunyip said:

Rossi is rapidly becoming irrelevant.

If he wants to channel Donald Trump or Tony Abbott with a similar version of deluded personal reality, then that is fine for him; however the rest of us are not idiots and we can see what really is...............a once respected champion descending into a pit of delusion and conspiracy theories. His natural talent is no longer enough, so he must resort to gamesmanship to give himself the hint of a chance. Little does he realize that his actions are self-defeating, futile and quite embarrassing to witness.

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No, no and bloody no

I do not want to see pictures of Rossi dressed as Abbot in bloody budgie smugglers

Keshav said:

And regardless of the custard crusaders willingness to turn a blind eye to Rossi's shenanigans - I think RD will be on notice to make smarter decisions; and Rossi, having tried every trick in the book to get decisions reversed in his favor - knows better the limits is his influence. He's really going to be under the microscope this year.

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The thing is though Kesh, one could argue that due to the changes in the disciplinary process, Rossi is in a better position heading into 2016 in terms of power than he had been nearing the end of 2015.

The changes to the penalty point system (it did need tweaking but IMO they went the wrong way) makes it near impossible to receive serious punishment as the result of on track actions and as fort he comments component of the changes I suspect that it has been fully drawn up with leeway and gray areas such that there is no hard or fast interpretation.

Yes, certainly I do think that Rossi's ego took a hit in that he did not get universal acknowledgement that he was 100% correct and as such I think this has to a slight degree hurt him, and as a result hurt his pride as he believes in his infallibility. But, I also believe that he heads into 2016 knowing that the actions that he felt cost him the championship last year will not repeat from his side whilst now we have rules in place to counteract the very act he alleged caused his reaction - ergo, either way he is immune

The sports power brokers have acted, and that act was to sanction past behaviours as acceptable but as Krop said in a post on his thread, other riders would have been ridiculed and told to pull their heads in.

Dorna do not run the sport

Gaz said:

The thing is though Kesh, one could argue that due to the changes in the disciplinary process, Rossi is in a better position heading into 2016 in terms of power than he had been nearing the end of 2015.

The changes to the penalty point system (it did need tweaking but IMO they went the wrong way) makes it near impossible to receive serious punishment as the result of on track actions and as fort he comments component of the changes I suspect that it has been fully drawn up with leeway and gray areas such that there is no hard or fast interpretation.

Yes, certainly I do think that Rossi's ego took a hit in that he did not get universal acknowledgement that he was 100% correct and as such I think this has to a slight degree hurt him, and as a result hurt his pride as he believes in his infallibility. But, I also believe that he heads into 2016 knowing that the actions that he felt cost him the championship last year will not repeat from his side whilst now we have rules in place to counteract the very act he alleged caused his reaction - ergo, either way he is immune

The sports power brokers have acted, and that act was to sanction past behaviours as acceptable but as Krop said in a post on his thread, other riders would have been ridiculed and told to pull their heads in.

Dorna do not run the sport

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I think Rossi can probably do what he likes this season as has mostly been the case throughout his career, with a few exceptions, the Sepang 2015 penalty among them.

His problem is that he substantially relies on coming through the field late, particularly last season, and I can't see this changing at age 37 or whatever. Unless the new tyre really doesn't suit him, Lorenzo imo will still often be able to get away early, and I think MM will both be fast early in races and less inclined to throw his bike down the road than he was last season, reducing the opportunities for Valentino to be competitive in general, or to engage in shenanigans. He was amazingly fast last year imo at this stage in his career, btw, despise the character he displayed late season though I may.

Gazzetta interview with Rossi, in English.

Interview: Rossi ready to renew Yamaha deal before calling it quits - GazzettaWorld

Kropotkin said:

Gazzetta interview with Rossi, in English.

Interview: Rossi ready to renew Yamaha deal before calling it quits - GazzettaWorld

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He should give kudos to Jorge then, who has not been his friend whether beating him or being beaten by him, although he has done rather more of the former.

I found this hilarious.

“More than anything I allowed myself to be tricked by Marquez. He really betrayed me. He said he was a fan but those were all lies. I almost believed him and I was ready to have a rivalry with him, giving 100 percent on the track, but those were all lies on his end. At Assen I realised he was only my friend when he beats me.”