Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered”
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C'mon we know the answer to that...................... vr...... Just ask #27, Ducati & Philip Morris.
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Jum, lets use two unfortunate accidents from the past. Shoya Tomizawa & Marco Simoncelli. Lets say 46 pulls a move in Austin & GOD forbids the unthinkable happens. Knowing that the American society is not polarized in motorcycle race like Italy. Do you think he could pull an OJ Simpson?
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Ah, I was just a bit confused about your point. Are you familiar with a Nascar driver named Tony Stewart? He deliberately swerved to hit a fellow driver and murdered him. Nothing ever happened to him criminally. Law enforcement tend not to get involved in high profile professional sports.
"NASCAR Driver Tony Stewart Hitting Racer & Killing Driver
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Yep I remember that one too.... Very unfortunate! But we can only hope if, another vengeful high profile professional sport star does this again. The law will take it serious & perform their duty.
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Not true Jum.
Driving sprint cars is not like what you think it is.
This is a bit I saved from a few years back...
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Don't discount MM's ambiton......Just ask Ratthapark Wilairot or the people in the grandstands Mugello 2013
I'd say it was more to do with the kid running into the track that killed him. I've seen that macho .... a couple of times in US motorsports, I recall seeing a clip where an angry driver dropkicks another car.
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That's fair enough, but what about when Jorge gave the thumbs down on the Sepang podium and also stated he believed any rider other than Rossi would have been black flagged in Sepang. He was crucified by the press and public to the point he had to apologise in a media conference at the next race....for speaking his mind.
So Rossi 'speaks his mind', but Lorenzo's comments were wrong?
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Rossi is back to his dirty tricks again, his latest outburst is typical of his nasty underhand behaviour.
In my opinion the latest rubbish is two fold;
Firstly he's trying to get into the head of anyone who would dare to show him a wheel or even think about passing him, that despite his penalty in Sepang he won't hesitate to deal out his usual brand of tough racing. He's subtly saying he won't hesitate to put someone off the track if they try and oppose him.
Secondly he's stoking the fires and disgustingly making sure the yellow hordes keep abusing Marquez, in order to try and destabilise and demoralise him. He did similar tricks with Stoner, and I'm sure he's hoping the pressure heaped upon Marquez will take him out of the equation.
In my opinion Rossi is stooping to an all time low and is prepared to do anything to try and get that title.
Maybe if his antics fail this year and Marquez is mentally strong like Lorenzo, he'll give up and retire. I think it could be .... or bust this year for Rossi.
In my opinion the latest rubbish is two fold;
Firstly he's trying to get into the head of anyone who would dare to show him a wheel or even think about passing him, that despite his penalty in Sepang he won't hesitate to deal out his usual brand of tough racing. He's subtly saying he won't hesitate to put someone off the track if they try and oppose him.
Secondly he's stoking the fires and disgustingly making sure the yellow hordes keep abusing Marquez, in order to try and destabilise and demoralise him. He did similar tricks with Stoner, and I'm sure he's hoping the pressure heaped upon Marquez will take him out of the equation.
In my opinion Rossi is stooping to an all time low and is prepared to do anything to try and get that title.
Maybe if his antics fail this year and Marquez is mentally strong like Lorenzo, he'll give up and retire. I think it could be .... or bust this year for Rossi.
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I believe above the section you quoted I said something like, "For good or bad. For right or wrong.". I like that Jorge speaks his mind, but I said at the time he did it that he should not have did the thumbs down gesture. There is a difference in speaking your mind and relaying the facts as you see them or believe them and poor sportsmanship. That thumb gesture was poor sportsmanship. What Jorge said after the race was fine, (even though at the time I said I wish he had not said it because I knew it would draw him into the MM/Rossi scrap), but acting like a child during the podium was wrong, and he apologized, and all was good. Which goes back to the "For right or wrong" part. I am a Jorge fan, but I am not and will never be a blind homer fan that thinks "my guy walks on water, does nothing wrong and is always right" kind of fan. That just isn't the world we live in. The ego's, the presser and the pure desire to win these guys have, I am surprised that more of them don't say or do stupid .....
Rossi has done stuff and said stuff in the past that I have strongly disagree with and would be on the same page as you in most cases. In this particular case, this particular story, I just didn't have an issue with it.
I guess I am only looking at this article, this instance, this chapter. You are looking at the entire book.. The complete Rossi novel.
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I can’t disagree with much you said. My point was simply after the end of the last season, his fault or not, I am not sure you can blame him for feeling the way he does , nor can you blame him for saying it during an interview. Never said I thought he was correct in his belief, just that he has the right to say it if he wishes. He is the one that has to live with his statements. It doesn’t hurt to have the yellow army agreeing with you.
As Jumkie pointed out, I have never bad month Stoner or said anything about what he has said or did when he was racing. Once again, he had the right, same as Rossi, whether I agreed with it or not, and to be honest a lot of times I didn’t, but regardless Stoner always said what was on his mind. He was almost as vocal as Rossi and always said what he felt and what he believed, and I think that was ok.
The funny thing to me is, some people called it bitching and whining when Stoner spoke out. Other people say it is bitching and whining when Rossi speaks out. Then you have the majority that just say Jorge is a .... when he does it. I think it is matter of perspective, and where your loyalty lies to whether you consider it bitching or speaking your mind.
At the end of the day, it is his(their) responsibility to weigh their statements versus public opinion and make that choice on what to say, with the knowledge they have to own it and will be judged by it.. aka See this thread.
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Everyone is biased to a certain rider/s WV, But I think the issue in this forum, particularly post Sepang, was the barrage of pro Rossi from both within and outside (new members).
I, along with many others here, have praised Rossi where due. But when we were critical of him post Sepang, it was seen purely as bias by the Rossi masses, oblivious to their own bias.
Lorenzo is who I support, but I have also criticised him when he has performed poorly, such as the early part of 2014.
I, along with many others here, have praised Rossi where due. But when we were critical of him post Sepang, it was seen purely as bias by the Rossi masses, oblivious to their own bias.
Lorenzo is who I support, but I have also criticised him when he has performed poorly, such as the early part of 2014.
As I said, he can have whatever opinion he likes of MM and express it all he likes as well, as long as Jorge and MM are also allowed to express theirs under the new rules promulgated by Dorna, which would seem to have potential to operate like the editorial policies of Pravda under Kruschev; I suspect both will move on, at least partly because they realise they won't win in the media as Kropotkin says, outside Spain anyway, given the preponderance of Rossi fans among "followers" of the sport.
What I can't tolerate is his continuing narrative about the end of season races in 2015 and the result of the 2015 championship, particularly given he is the one who took another rider out illegally. I find few words other than pathetic to describe this, and as I said in an earlier post expect him to start calling the lost 10th championship "my precious" imminently. I didn't have much problem with him previously, only with his fans, and remain happy to acknowledge the quality of his riding including last year, but this encouragement of his fans to rage against other riders as a weapon against them, which is no longer even tacit, permanently defines his character for me.
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