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Phillip Island RACE

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Oct 20 2009, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As much as I dislike Casey's persona, that was some really impressive riding. Gas, brake, lean, slide, gas....to perfection every corner.

i have to say that casey's attitude since his return seems alot better to me.

stoner: "It's nice to be able to fight for victories. Even if I didn't win today, I'd have had a ball."

not just because of that comment hes seemed alot happier thorugh all the interviews, i think he just happy to be able to be upfront and last full race distance.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Oct 20 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i have to say that casey's attitude since his return seems alot better to me.

stoner: "It's nice to be able to fight for victories. Even if I didn't win today, I'd have had a ball."

not just because of that comment hes seemed alot happier thorugh all the interviews, i think he just happy to be able to be upfront and last full race distance.
+1

to all of it but especially the bold bit
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Oct 19 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nup that Stoner corner trumps all of those, his lean angle is phenominal. All those other guys have air between there elbows and body, or knee and body. Stoner is at that angle and tucked ....... amazing.
Are we talking about the same picture GeePee put up? First of all, Stoner's elbows are NOT toughing tarmac. Second, you can see space between elbow and body. I'm not saying he doesn't have a sick lean angle, but GeePee said "elbows down" and clearly Stoner's are NOT down.

Look again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Oct 19 2009, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Absolutely Michael.

For me, VR doesn't seem concerned about CS 'taking him out' when in close quarters whereas he seems 'jumpy' around Lorenzo (ie. Catalunya) and again cite Laguna as a good example.
Says something about Stoners' racecraft and sportmanship.

Others...Machiavelli.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Oct 20 2009, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>how long before elbow sliders are required? who will be the first to get their shoulder down?
Lorenzo already did.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Oct 20 2009, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>+1 my new desktop
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New pic for you and V to spank the monkey.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 20 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Another guy that has similar goose neck style is Colin Edwards. Am I wrong?
Oh, Jum. Did you even open the link?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>In more recent years I've held Jamie Whitham's riding style as the most efficient & brilliant overall — here pictured during the World Superbike of 1997. To achieve most possible leverage thru the turns, Jamie rotates his body as he hangs off, with his head & shoulder pointed forward and stretched away from the bike. Notice that his knee is actually pretty far from the ground. Btw, it was recently pointed out that his style resembles Colin Edwards'.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 21 2009, 06:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Are we talking about the same picture GeePee put up? First of all, Stoner's elbows are NOT toughing tarmac. Second, you can see space between elbow and body. I'm not saying he doesn't have a sick lean angle, but GeePee said "elbows down" and clearly Stoner's are NOT down.

Look again.

But my point is that elbows up is the go for the faster cornering
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I can see the elbows are down, just says they aren't at their limit to me.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Oct 18 2009, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>During an interview on TV here in oz Casey said that that is his favourite corner out of all. Guess it shows!

We,ve seen good drifts before, but I suspect none of them are at anything like this.

250kph apparently. Is this the fastest corner in motogp? I suspect it is.

Rog, you really are clutching at straws when trying to explain away Caseys throttle control.
Can you never give unreserved credit to the guy?

Yeah I agree, many people love giving excuses why someone really isn't as good as they appear to make their rider look better but when you see a bike sliding around like that and keeping it pinned through head shakes, you know the man can ride a bike thats for sure.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Oct 20 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Gaz you are right. And as the unofficial powerslide personal trainer I should never condone such behavior.
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Don't undersell yourself - you are the official Powerslide Trainer mate - and deservedly so.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Oct 20 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is that better?

Much better, much better - breathe deeply - and repeat again - goood, gooood, feeling better already.
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Gaz
 
Ok, ok, I know these aren't MGP elbow down pics - but a couple of Spies as his name has been mentioned

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Gaz
 
In super banked corners you get the impression that they are really leaned over but it is partially an illusion.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Oct 21 2009, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ok, ok, I know these aren't MGP elbow down pics - but a couple of Spies as his name has been mentioned

2007_AMA_Infineon-17.jpg


2007_AMA_Infineon-2.jpg


Gaz

Yeah see there you go ..... thats mid pack at best MGP type lean. Kinda why I cannot understand the cries of "wait till Spies gets here!" ...... he hasn't exhibited the body language of speed in MGP to me yet. But who knows ........ he now has the opportunity
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I see Spies as near Edwards in style hence I think he'll place around him there somewhere, to start with.

Riders like the top four came up through the ranks in the MGP circus, and have ridden bikes where lean is the thing ( and it seems pretty essential these days, though as Stoner demonstrated at PI both lean and pick up style adaptability may be the thing ). So I kinda wonder about the chance of riders coming from say AMA or WSBK or BSS etc. and competing in MGP.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Oct 20 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whitham was most fondly remembered for this (amongst other things)

Whit

Cool pic! Exactly what I was talking about… Sticking the neck out like a goose!

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I am looking for a better pic of Tamada... And yes Edwards does it too.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Oct 20 2009, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....... right compa, that pic is gp ....
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HaHaHaHa!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Oct 21 2009, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In super banked corners you get the impression that they are really leaned over but it is partially an illusion.
Unless it was an adverse camber which is unlikely on a race track, you would have to lean over further a get you elbows down.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Oct 20 2009, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah see there you go ..... thats mid pack at best MGP type lean. Kinda why I cannot understand the cries of "wait till Spies gets here!" ...... he hasn't exhibited the body language of speed in MGP to me yet. But who knows ........ he now has the opportunity
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I see Spies as near Edwards in style hence I think he'll place around him there somewhere, to start with.

Riders like the top four came up through the ranks in the MGP circus, and have ridden bikes where lean is the thing ( and it seems pretty essential these days, though as Stoner demonstrated at PI both lean and pick up style adaptability may be the thing ). So I kinda wonder about the chance of riders coming from say AMA or WSBK or BSS etc. and competing in MGP.

Yeah... it's not like Roberts, Spencer, Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz, Robert's JR. and Hayden have ever set a precedent.
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Nope
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Not at all.
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