Mugello MotoGP testing
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Yup, thats pretty much it
One thing i cant understand tho is why someone of caseys experiance is so bothered about a ROOKIE wanting a tow for a lap or 2 during a TEST ?
He's a control freak, then lashes out if something does not go his way.
So what actual evidence is there that Casey has done what everyone has said?
The only article that I have seen referenced here is from GPOne and as I said in my previous post he was claimed to have "move over" nothing was mentioned about slowing down.
Its dumb if he did it, but is an assumption being made here?
Cheers
Gecko
He obviously has an obssession about this issue, and some of his responses including the recent one if it was as reported are becoming hard to defend, but he still has not done anything dangerous as opposed to arrogant or impolite. If he stopped doing it tomorrow you guys, and you in particular, would find something else to whinge about concerning him. As I have said frequently, any whinging by stoner is vastly exceeded by whinging about him on the internet.
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Norah Head
This seems a rather pettily silly thing to say on so many levels ...........
Stoners detracters often attempt to ridicule him for being a somewhat private or misanthropic character, then you go and knock him by attempting to apply a trait of an extremely socially needy person
These said detracters, yourself being a prime example, are known to be of a character similar to young teenage girls longings over a pop star, in their fandome for Rossi.
Their s no greater control, and abusive control than that.
Bopper
Whilst your view on this matter is becoming more realistic, there is no doubt that Stoner's antics are dangerous,
Punching Randy at speed-very dangerous,
fist waving/looking back whilst at full acceleration at Aoyama-very dangerous
Deliberately bauking Nicky for a few corners on the race line whilst turning and waving-very dangerous
And now we have actual bike contact with Karol, so much so that a very pissed Karol felt the need to go and abuse Stoner afterwards.....funnily enough if Stoner had just done this instead of bratting like a .... on these other occasions there would be no discussion or fines...etc
For me, this is a safety issue and the powers that be have failed to address Stoner's outrageoous behaviour properly, some are calling for a two race ban on sic, is running into other riders very delberately also not worthy of this kind of punishment?
It seems to me that everyone is responding quite aggressively to a rather vague on-line article that makes no mention of Stoner slowing down at all and causing Karel to run into him. It merely states he moved over.
So how is it the conclusion can be made that he has behaved dangerously (on this occasion anyway).
If his actions had been so dangerous surely it would have been covered in more than just one website and it seems that it has been distorted or embellished if you will even more here.
Again it seems that it is just a witch hunt in which Stoner has been perceived to have farted in the wrong direction to that with which everyone prefers.
I'm all for stringing him up and whipping him, but surely there needs to be abit more to base all this upon (this time) other than "trivial" bits of information.
Anyway
Its just my 2c worth.
Gecko
So how is it the conclusion can be made that he has behaved dangerously (on this occasion anyway).
If his actions had been so dangerous surely it would have been covered in more than just one website and it seems that it has been distorted or embellished if you will even more here.
Again it seems that it is just a witch hunt in which Stoner has been perceived to have farted in the wrong direction to that with which everyone prefers.
I'm all for stringing him up and whipping him, but surely there needs to be abit more to base all this upon (this time) other than "trivial" bits of information.
Anyway
Its just my 2c worth.
Gecko
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Norah Head
And the fart in the wrong direction now comes down to
Stoner = 27 wins
Rossi = 26
and we can expect the bitching to get worse from them
And the fart in the wrong direction now comes down to
Stoner = 27 wins
Rossi = 79
and we can expect the bitching to get worse from them
Fixed that for ya
Hang on Talps, it is you who have on a few occasions made fun of others who have commented when they have not 'seen' an incident so why is it unfair to ask 'has anyone seen it'?
Yes, there are reports.
Yes there are photos of a clash in the pits (unfortunately from what I have seen there are none of the incident itself)
But all reports are based on a 'he said/she said' journalistic response with no journalist saying (or even claiming) to have seen the incident, unlike a number of other situations with various riders.
My take, yes an incident occurred and one that must have greatly aggrieved Abraham judging by his response (and one that CS may not have understood the effects based on his recent comments and desire to discuss with Abraham). The exact nature of the incident and who 'caused' the collision (ie. who changed direction and at what time) is yet to be determined as all we are left with is to make judgement based on journalist reports where an own bias may well be in play (not saying it is as here are some journalists I do enjoy reading - none in AMCN thankfully)
Let me throw you an example.
There have been recent commentary regarding the possibility that Rossi will soon be a father and you, fairly I may say wanted a link to the article. Is this article sufficient for you to know without a doubt that Rossi is to become a father or do you expect some journalistic licence has been taken?
And if VR is to be a dad, full congratulations to the guy and I will be interested to see if his mental approach changes as have some others in the past - a totally different subject by the way
And by the way -- quit gloating, we had no bloody ball in the first 30 minutes (but a great way to farewell Lockyer - a true legend)
Gaz
Hang on Talps, it is you who have on a few occasions made fun of others who have commented when they have not 'seen' an incident so why is it unfair to ask 'has anyone seen it'?
Yes, there are reports.
Yes there are photos of a clash in the pits (unfortunately from what I have seen there are none of the incident itself)
But all reports are based on a 'he said/she said' journalistic response with no journalist saying (or even claiming) to have seen the incident, unlike a number of other situations with various riders.
My take, yes an incident occurred and one that must have greatly aggrieved Abraham judging by his response (and one that CS may not have understood the effects based on his recent comments and desire to discuss with Abraham). The exact nature of the incident and who 'caused' the collision (ie. who changed direction and at what time) is yet to be determined as all we are left with is to make judgement based on journalist reports where an own bias may well be in play (not saying it is as here are some journalists I do enjoy reading - none in AMCN thankfully)
Let me throw you an example.
There have been recent commentary regarding the possibility that Rossi will soon be a father and you, fairly I may say wanted a link to the article. Is this article sufficient for you to know without a doubt that Rossi is to become a father or do you expect some journalistic licence has been taken?
And if VR is to be a dad, full congratulations to the guy and I will be interested to see if his mental approach changes as have some others in the past - a totally different subject by the way
And by the way -- quit gloating, we had no bloody ball in the first 30 minutes (but a great way to farewell Lockyer - a true legend)
Gaz
I have no way of knowing if and how much stoner was at fault in this latest incident, but it is interesting that he is now being criticised for slowing down in front of another rider when the same people have been criticising him for being upset by other riders being slow in front of him on the racing line.
The noted australian motogp site gpone and the noted australian gp media figure julian ryder disagree with your take on this incident.
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Norah Head
And the fart in the wrong direction now comes down to
Stoner = 27 wins
Rossi = 26
and we can expect the bitching to get worse from them
Fixed that for ya
only a true Bopper wouldn't get it or would deny it
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Tweed Valley Australia
Hang on Talps, it is you who have on a few occasions made fun of others who have commented when they have not 'seen' an incident so why is it unfair to ask 'has anyone seen it'?
Yes, there are reports.
Yes there are photos of a clash in the pits (unfortunately from what I have seen there are none of the incident itself)
But all reports are based on a 'he said/she said' journalistic response with no journalist saying (or even claiming) to have seen the incident, unlike a number of other situations with various riders.
My take, yes an incident occurred and one that must have greatly aggrieved Abraham judging by his response (and one that CS may not have understood the effects based on his recent comments and desire to discuss with Abraham). The exact nature of the incident and who 'caused' the collision (ie. who changed direction and at what time) is yet to be determined as all we are left with is to make judgement based on journalist reports where an own bias may well be in play (not saying it is as here are some journalists I do enjoy reading - none in AMCN thankfully)
Let me throw you an example.
There have been recent commentary regarding the possibility that Rossi will soon be a father and you, fairly I may say wanted a link to the article. Is this article sufficient for you to know without a doubt that Rossi is to become a father or do you expect some journalistic licence has been taken?
And if VR is to be a dad, full congratulations to the guy and I will be interested to see if his mental approach changes as have some others in the past - a totally different subject by the way
And by the way -- quit gloating, we had no bloody ball in the first 30 minutes (but a great way to farewell Lockyer - a true legend)
Gaz
As for the Stoner thing, it has been reported across many sources, and Kropo has also backed up the story, that's enough for me....
This is supposed to be a post about the ‘Mugello MotoGPtesting’ now let’s get off the bitching and ........ which some of you really sufferlots of …I bet all of you have been kicked out by all the girls from their bitching sessitions and that is why you are on thisforum! got nothing else to do!
Now lets get back to the topic...Casey Stoner was the first Repsol Honda rider to exit thegarage, 15 minutes after the track was opened. The Australian rider set a newcircuit record of 1'47.326 on his penultimate lap, seven tenths faster than hispole position time set here on Saturday. In addition to the swing arm, Caseytested a new Bridgestone front tyre as well as some other smaller set up issueson his RC212V.12283:27+casey+stoner,+motogp_original.jpg]Say no more!
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Norah Head
Caseytested a new Bridgestone front tyre as well as some other smaller set up issueson his RC212V.12283:27+casey+stoner,+motogp_original.jpg][/font][/size]Say no more!
Something tells me hat for the rest of the year, Bridgestone will supply "very good examples of the control tyres" and " good advice to those who have no existing data " ( christ! when I remember that it all seems so crazy he is leading the WC at present!!
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