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Motogp: 2016 Round 4 Gran Premio Red Bull de España

Ohhhhhhhhh ..... Rossi qualifies in 1st. I guess he's really washed up lol.

Oh I'm just anxiously waiting for someone to say Rossi got some "Friday Night Specials" overnighted to him for Q2.

Shots fired!!!

No...the conspiracy theorist will come up with something for more sinister like Tissot slowed time down for Rossi....Or the food poising that half the Michelin guys got were all on MM, JLo, Dovi and Iannones team....
 
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Oh good
.......... that means you wont be shutting down the forum till tomorrow at least, so we get our comeuppance.

Thats at least is better than Talpa, who was going to get his friend at channel 10, here in Aus., to stop televising motogp. I guess something went wrong with his threat :rolleyes:
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I promise I won't shut down the forum until at least after the race. Pinky swear.
 
Great qualifying. But I think I miss the hour long session. Just feels like there is now foreplay before the climactic ending.


The only unfortunate thing about the qualifying is we'll have the hooker rapist throwing poo again...
 
It's great to see real discussions happening on a racing forum! Although yesterday was very humorous.

Thanks to all the civil! Enjoy the races. May they have a competitive qualifiying with a Spanish 1-2-3!!

JL
MM
MV
Booo!

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Sam Lowes is unbelievable on that moto2 bike. How on earth does he go so fast when he's sideways so much?
I'm amazed his gearbox doesn't explode the way he slams it down through the box then let's the clutch out!
 
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Pedrosa hasn't yet got the hang of the TIRES. He has said his lack of weight makes it difficult for him to generate enough traction. He is adapting to them, Jerez is certainly a benefit; but it's a process. Of the top 4 bikes, he has been the one most negatively effected by the TIRES.

I highlight tires for the sake of the few who don't quite understand how this factor can make or break wins, hence championships. I'm sure many of you heard Rossi complain about the TIRE situation at Argentina (one could only imagine if he were unsatisfied with his tires before 06, god knows he whined to high heaven in 07 until he got his way, much to the detriment of his main rival) though I'm sure the meaning is lost on a few here. Pedrosa was having fantastic form after his arm pump. From Aragon to Valencia he was very competitive. He is still on the same bike as Marquez, and though he is inferior to Marquez as a rider, he beat him a few times last year, the major DIFFERENCE so far this season is not the bike but rather the TIRES.

In the words of Noam Chomsky, "it's the oil [TIRES] stupid!

("It's the oil stupid!" A meme that became popularized as the true reason why the West had invaded the mid-east, not so much to liberate, but rather to aid western oil companies to secure the resource. But of course, Migs might want to see an official press release by Western governments openly admitting it. I mean surely the Google machine will easily uncover such an admission by the then Administrations, right Papabozzo.)

Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
 
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Sam Lowes is unbelievable on that moto2 bike. How on earth does he go so fast when he's sideways so much?
I'm amazed his gearbox doesn't explode the way he slams it down through the box then let's the clutch out!

....... right he is. I'm interested in what he will do in gp. That style never seem to work out but is always beautiful to watch.
 
....... right he is. I'm interested in what he will do in gp. That style never seem to work out but is always beautiful to watch.



The only fly in the ointment there is Sam is contracted to Aprilia in MotoGP for two years. Unless that bike can make similar strides to Ducati and Suzuki, he could spend a lot of time in the gravel.
 
Pedrosa hasn't yet got the hang of the TIRES. He has said his lack of weight makes it difficult for him to generate enough traction. He is adapting to them, Jerez is certainly a benefit; but it's a process. Of the top 4 bikes, he has been the one most negatively effected by the TIRES.

I highlight tires for the sake of the few who don't quite understand how this factor can make or break wins, hence championships. I'm sure many of you heard Rossi complain about the TIRE situation at Argentina (one could only imagine if he were unsatisfied with his tires before 06, god knows he whined to high heaven in 07 until he got his way, much to the detriment of his main rival) though I'm sure the meaning is lost on a few here. Pedrosa was having fantastic form after his arm pump. From Aragon to Valencia he was very competitive. He is still on the same bike as Marquez, and though he is inferior to Marquez as a rider, he beat him a few times last year, the major DIFFERENCE so far this season is not the bike but rather the TIRES.

In the words of Noam Chomsky, "it's the oil [TIRES] stupid!

("It's the oil stupid!" A meme that became popularized as the true reason why the West had invaded the mid-east, not so much to liberate, but rather to aid western oil companies to secure the resource. But of course, Migs might want to see an official press release by Western governments openly admitting it. I mean surely the Google machine will easily uncover such an admission by the then Administrations, right Papabozzo.)

Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)



I am not sure what you are saying..

Of course it is the tires, (oil). The Michelin tires are way different than the Bridgestone and every rider in the paddock has said so. Riders are having a harder time adjusting to the increase amount of spin in the rear tire. Some riders, looks like Smith, are having a great deal of issues with the tire. Some like Mark, George and Rossi are having less trouble. (Until they crash.)

The tire is here to stay, so it looks like they are going to have to learn to ride with them, or there is always WSBK.

One great lap does not make a tire conspiracy. Just means a guy hooked it up for one lap.
 
I am not sure what you are saying..

Of course it is the tires, (oil). The Michelin tires are way different than the Bridgestone and every rider in the paddock has said so. Riders are having a harder time adjusting to the increase amount of spin in the rear tire. Some riders, looks like Smith, are having a great deal of issues with the tire. Some like Mark, George and Rossi are having less trouble. (Until they crash.)

The tire is here to stay, so it looks like they are going to have to learn to ride with them, or there is always WSBK.

One great lap does not make a tire conspiracy. Just means a guy hooked it up for one lap.

"I'm not sure what you are saying." Clearly my friend.

I wasn't talking about qual (not sure what sentence in my post led you to your conclusion). I was making a point why PEDROSA is struggling the most of the top 4 (after all, the rest of the field is filler, in practical terms, the championship is between these four, like Speedway). The answer to his (DP) struggle is tires. (Read my previous post again).

The reason for me highlighting tires is because their importance is grossly overlooked. It shapes what you see in a race. If a rider could control this element, he'd have a fantastic advantage. As you are aware, there is a "debate" whether this element has been responsible for an inflated record. You seem aware of its (tires) particular importance, but I'm often amused at how often this is dismissed in favor of an alternate rationale.
 
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The only fly in the ointment there is Sam is contracted to Aprilia in MotoGP for two years. Unless that bike can make similar strides to Ducati and Suzuki, he could spend a lot of time in the gravel.

Oh damn. Looks like he's getting a crashy thread in future. I picture him being a slightly faster Yonny H when he makes the jump. Hopefully he can get a proper ride in the future.
 
I am not sure what you are saying..

Of course it is the tires, (oil). The Michelin tires are way different than the Bridgestone and every rider in the paddock has said so. Riders are having a harder time adjusting to the increase amount of spin in the rear tire. Some riders, looks like Smith, are having a great deal of issues with the tire. Some like Mark, George and Rossi are having less trouble. (Until they crash.)

The tire is here to stay, so it looks like they are going to have to learn to ride with them, or there is always WSBK.

One great lap does not make a tire conspiracy. Just means a guy hooked it up for one lap.
I don't think it is possible to have a tyre conspiracy to affect 1 lap of a close practice given there are no quaifying tyres now, and I doubt Jumkie was suggesting that.

Dani is someone who famously likes everything to be perfect before he can unleash his full potential, which on occasional weekends can exceed all other riders, and this as well as all the injuries has certainly not helped his overall career. I think Jumkie is correct though that this tyre change whilst not aimed at thwarting Dani has probably done so, and if the tyres were still the Bridgestones he would be doing better and that nothing else has really changed with him.

I have never liked having a control tyre in the premier class.
 
Great qualifying. But I think I miss the hour long session. Just feels like there is now foreplay before the climactic ending.


The only unfortunate thing about the qualifying is we'll have the hooker rapist throwing poo again...

Baturro, have you been enjoying those fava beans??
 
"I'm not sure what you are saying." Clearly my friend.

I wasn't talking about qual (not sure what sentence in my post led you to your conclusion). I was making a point why PEDROSA is struggling the most of the top 4 (after all, the rest of the field is filler, in practical terms, the championship is between these four, like Speedway). The answer is tires.

The reason for me highlighting tires is because their importance is grossly overlooked. It shapes what you see in a race. If a rider could control this element, he'd have a fantastic advantage. As you are aware, there is a "debate" whether this element has been responsible for an inflated record. You seem aware of its (tires) particular important, but I'm often amused at how often this is dismissed in favor of an alternate rationale.



Sorry, jumped the gun on tire conspiracy.. I am getting a little closer to understanding..

So saying Pedro is not as good as he seemed because he could not adjust to the new tire as fast as the better riders have? Not sure I disagree with that.

I have never glossed over the impact of the tire in a race. It is an important part of racing. It is an important part in why the best riders, cream as the say, rise to the top at certain times and why at certain times some really good riders seem to stumble. The best riders learn and adapt to a changing situation. They have adapted and use the tires to their advantage.
 

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