Motogp: 2016 Round 4 Gran Premio Red Bull de España

Arrabbiata1 · Apr 28, 2016

Daniboy said:
I was there and it was unbelievable how Ohno did that! Although Danny should have had the title stitched up long before, but he got the jitters in much the same way as VR did .

The difference was, unlike VR, Danny refused to condemn Ono for racing with him as a non championship protagonist and didn't request team orders saying that he would prefer to win it genuinely out on track by racing the entire field. No ........ mythical 'unwitten law' was evoked. Peter Bom did have some stern words with the Ono side of the garage and Kiefer ordered them to signal to their rider to calm down. I do concede though, has Ono have taken Kent out handing the title to Oliveira, he may have seen things differently.

Barbedwirebikerr · Apr 28, 2016

yamfan said:
He jumped but the dozy .... forgot his leathers would get so heavy when full of water. He should've inflated his airbag...

Think riding leathers are bad. I've had experience in water with full structural firefighting turnout on. You could not understand the sppeed of submersion and the absolute inability to do anything about it. My town is a port town, we deal with boat fires from time to time. Scary ..... Operational training in the situation calls for aggressive attack with minimal ppe. Reality is the boat sinks whilst i watch.

#22 · Apr 28, 2016

Barbedwirebikerr said:
Reality is the boat sinks whilst i watch.

Yeah, that'd put it out

black101 · Apr 30, 2016

yamfan said:
Kent was the fastest guy out there on his own! He was the one usually annoyed at others trying to follow him for a tow.

He was definitely the fastest guy out there, hence my post, but my reading of the situation was the opposite. He was constantly looking for a tow and wasting practice time doing it. As I recall he was quizzed about it on to and pretty much confirmed that he felt he needed the tow to match any advantage grasped by his opponents. His team boss and the "expert pundits" we're seemingly as frustrated as me as they firmly believed he was fast enough when out in his own. There was in interview with the team boss where he put it down to simple youthful inexperience. The Huewen guy, who is also a big fan of Kent, said that he should just go out and get on with it. Instead he spent more time looking around looking for someone to follow.
Just shows you, and not for the first time, that a picture says more than a thousand words, just not the same words to all the people all the time. Lol

Arrabbiata1 · Apr 30, 2016

black101 said:
He was definitely the fastest guy out there, hence my post, but my reading of the situation was the opposite. He was constantly looking for a tow and wasting practice time doing it. As I recall he was quizzed about it on to and pretty much confirmed that he felt he needed the tow to match any advantage grasped by his opponents. His team boss and the "expert pundits" we're seemingly as frustrated as me as they firmly believed he was fast enough when out in his own. There was in interview with the team boss where he put it down to simple youthful inexperience. The Huewen guy, who is also a big fan of Kent, said that he should just go out and get on with it. Instead he spent more time looking around looking for someone to follow.
Just shows you, and not for the first time, that a picture says more than a thousand words, just not the same words to all the people all the time. Lol

Or you could simply be mistaken.

Genuinely, I never once saw him look for or actually obtain a tow, he simply isn't that sort of rider - and he didn't need to because as we now know, the Honda was plenty fast enough on its own.

What you saw was a very frustrated exasperated rider, conscious of a very fast an composed Oliveira closing in in the championship, who perhaps didn't handle the situation as well as he should - Sepang in particular. Every time that he left pit lane there was a train of riders hitching on the back of him in addition to those slowing up and waiting for him to come around. He would then slow himself, pull off the racing line or head back to his garage.

Seriously, you're very wrong in your view of this.

black101 · Apr 30, 2016

Or you are. Seriously! [emoji4]

Arrabbiata1 · Apr 30, 2016

black101 said:
Or you are. Seriously! [emoji4]

Kent: ?We have to deal with a penalty again?

black101 · Apr 30, 2016

Arrabbiata1 said:
Kent: ?We have to deal with a penalty again?

Thanks for that. First time I've read that report and upon first read appears to put a different slant on it. However by the time I've digested it and jumbled up the words to suit my original take on it, I'll still be correct. The reality, as my good wife tells me, is often not as I portray it to be.
Thanks again[emoji1]

Arrabbiata1 · Apr 30, 2016

black101 said:
Thanks for that. First time I've read that report and upon first read appears to put a different slant on it. However by the time I've digested it and jumbled up the words to suit my original take on it, I'll still be correct. The reality, as my good wife tells me, is often not as I portray it to be.
Thanks again[emoji1]

It had become so farcical by Sepang that, as the link highlights, he came back in and rode down pit lane - with a stream of riders behind him. Like I say, he was so fast last year, the last thing he was looking for was a slipstream. He was actually reprimanded for riding slowly to try and break the tow. Fenati was one of the worst offenders...now it's happening to him.

black101 · Apr 30, 2016

Still think JL slipped tho. Lol

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