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I think it has more to do with the superiority of the Yamaha chassis and tractable engine. So stable.
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I think it has more to do with the superiority of the Yamaha chassis and tractable engine. So stable.
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Nobody has bitched about the Michelins. Looks like they did their homework for their home race.
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Marquez loses by a lap and still gets 3 points, methinks he crashed out of the right race if he had to crash.
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Michelins were what Lorenzo was using yesterday when he beat the lap record. I don't think it was the tires this time around. LeMans has always been a .... track. Nobody'd talking about but I strongly suspect it's about issues with the track surface.
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Excellent result for Yamaha and the possible future Yamaha riders...
Ducati will be looking wider afield for a second factory rider now.....
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Jorge, well, was Jorge.
Rossi did a great job picking up spots, even before everyone crashed out.
Good to see Maverick & Suzuki on the podium. Maybe a win soon for Suzuki.
Should someone start a Iannone crash game thread?
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Rossi did a great job picking up spots, even before everyone crashed out.
Good to see Maverick & Suzuki on the podium. Maybe a win soon for Suzuki.
Should someone start a Iannone crash game thread?
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This race should put to rest how .... the Michelin tires really are.
Riders may not be criticizing, but generally that's because they are told to keep their mouth shut. F1 drivers hate Pirelli's tires, but they were warned to never say anything further after they started complaining about the tires awhile back. Guess what, all critcism stopped after being read the riot act.
Nearly half the field was eliminated with the front-end washouts, which has been the problem with the Michelins from last year when the riders first started testing on them. Real professional job Michelin is doing. That front tire is so dangerous and everyone is either oblivious to it, or acts like it is no big deal.
Big kudos to the crowd for cheering when both Marquez and Dovizioso went down. Shows the class of the Rossi fanbase at large. Always good to see that they are consistently deplorable in behavior and utterly unlikeable. Too bad an aesteroid doesn't plow into a grandstand filled with Rossi fans, though I'm sure they'd cheer that too if they found out one of the fans in there had a #93 shirt on.
Lorenzo did what he does best. Warm, dry weather, the field had no chance. His start was perfect, and the race was over in the first 200 feet. Vinales finally gets that first podium, guess he will be at Suzuki next year if that podium clause triggers an automatic contract renewal as was being reported a few weeks back. Though it took attrition, it was nice to see Pedrosa finish far better than anyone would have expected after that disastrous qualifying effort yesterday.
I'm sure Michelin's responsibility today will be minimalized and trivialized till everyone thinks it was just a complete freak occurrence that 7 riders went down. Short of them fixing anything, I'd expect a repeat at Catalunya because of the heavy loads on the tires around that circuit. Expect more front end washouts with the heavy braking zones and long corners.
Riders may not be criticizing, but generally that's because they are told to keep their mouth shut. F1 drivers hate Pirelli's tires, but they were warned to never say anything further after they started complaining about the tires awhile back. Guess what, all critcism stopped after being read the riot act.
Nearly half the field was eliminated with the front-end washouts, which has been the problem with the Michelins from last year when the riders first started testing on them. Real professional job Michelin is doing. That front tire is so dangerous and everyone is either oblivious to it, or acts like it is no big deal.
Big kudos to the crowd for cheering when both Marquez and Dovizioso went down. Shows the class of the Rossi fanbase at large. Always good to see that they are consistently deplorable in behavior and utterly unlikeable. Too bad an aesteroid doesn't plow into a grandstand filled with Rossi fans, though I'm sure they'd cheer that too if they found out one of the fans in there had a #93 shirt on.
Lorenzo did what he does best. Warm, dry weather, the field had no chance. His start was perfect, and the race was over in the first 200 feet. Vinales finally gets that first podium, guess he will be at Suzuki next year if that podium clause triggers an automatic contract renewal as was being reported a few weeks back. Though it took attrition, it was nice to see Pedrosa finish far better than anyone would have expected after that disastrous qualifying effort yesterday.
I'm sure Michelin's responsibility today will be minimalized and trivialized till everyone thinks it was just a complete freak occurrence that 7 riders went down. Short of them fixing anything, I'd expect a repeat at Catalunya because of the heavy loads on the tires around that circuit. Expect more front end washouts with the heavy braking zones and long corners.
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Given all of the time Michelin spends there in May/June every year to prep for the 24 Hours of Le Mans, they are well aware of the track surface there. Sorry, Michelin has been garbage the entire season. It's a 3 1/2-4 hours ride from Clermont Ferrand to Le Mans. Hardly any excuses to not have the tires sorted out for a track in their own country.
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That just the French...
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I agree with you now. This is potentially very dangerous, it was lucky Dovi and MM didn't intersect. They were both pushing pretty hard that lap, but for both to go at the same spot in the same fashion suggests rather more than rider error.
Michelin should have terabytes of data for Lemans, and should make developing a front tyre that sticks a pretty simple task. If they cant make a tyre to suit what would be their home circuit, what can be expected at other circuits.
I doubt its just Rossi fans, I checked the video and the stands at the crash had barely any yellow at all. I know plenty of people that only watch motorsports 'for the crashes' in their own words.
I certainly don't think it's unique to Rossi fans.
As for the tyres, while they've obviously got problems, I doubt they're just sitting back idly. They'll be doing everything they can to try and fix them, if it was easy I'm sure they'd have done it already.
Bridgestone got fed up of all the .... they got from riders and fans and packed up and left. MotoGP doesn't really have any other option BUT Michelin for the moment.
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Largely agree - tho some responsibility may be apportioned to the bike manufacturers who have to make adjustments to make the bike suitable to the tires - which is more of a challenge with the inclusion of the control ECU. Yamaha really seemed to have the bikes dialed in for the track and the tires. But yes - it does seem that Michelin just don't have the technical know-how of the Japanese at B-Stone.
Again... I submit that empirical evidence points to issues with the track surface. Watch the Moto2 race. Maybe half the field crashed out and many in the same turn where Dovi and Iannone went down - and Dunlop has been to Lemans plenty of times over the course of the last, how many years, they've been supplying tires to this class of racers.
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Bridgestone got tired of contradictory instructions from Dorna about making tyres to "improve the racing" like F1, then taking the flack when they failed.
The original unmeddled with Bridgestone tyres were a bit chancy when cold, but didn't delaminate or otherwise catastrophically fail.
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Congrats to Lorenzo. Fantastic race. Considering so many crashers, this was extremely risky. I can relax until the finish knowing the front tire's unpredictability and miniscule margin for error.
Michelin fronts are complete ..... There is no way so many front end washouts makes sense in these conditions without the tire being the culprit.
Already 3 times we've seen double wash outs with the riders just barely escaping being T-boned by the machine. Only by sheer luck it hasn't happened. When it does I doubt we'll hear Michelin blamed. Not when Dorna have imposed their draconian gag order.
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Michelin fronts are complete ..... There is no way so many front end washouts makes sense in these conditions without the tire being the culprit.
Already 3 times we've seen double wash outs with the riders just barely escaping being T-boned by the machine. Only by sheer luck it hasn't happened. When it does I doubt we'll hear Michelin blamed. Not when Dorna have imposed their draconian gag order.
Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
