Moto 2

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 3 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When GP racing becomes a complete debacle then I will start a new prototype series. Plus I will invite all the beer and tobacco companies to enter into the thing. We can all use stupid symbols and .... to sidestep all the ....... that think that their kids actually listen to Joe ...... camel.

Agreed with Rog on the ..... But just like tobacco, politicians will ban this in the attempt the protect us.

Hell, an Amsterdam coffee house should sponsor a motorbike rider.

Or some Columbian drug cartel. We are ....... people and we should be able to choose what the .... we put into out bodies. If we want to shoot up with heroine, why not?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 3 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agreed with Rog on the ..... But just like tobacco, politicians will ban this in the attempt the protect us.

Hell, an Amsterdam coffee house should sponsor a motorbike rider.

Or some Columbian drug cartel. We are ....... people and we should be able to choose what the .... we put into out bodies. If we want to shoot up with heroine, why not?
.... the govt and trying to protect me from myself. Ben Franklin said it best. The more protection the people want they have to be willing to give up more of their freedoms. Politicians can't ban the .... if the people don't want it that way. IF you don't let them. But these days most people became sheep thinking in america the govt needs to do this and that. ........ they work for me not the other way around.

But as far as the heroin .... that should be banned dude come on. Tobacco has been here for a hell of a long time. Heck the amish folk around here have huge farms devoted to it. I just think those things being what they are should be made a choice and not anything else. This should also be reflected in media. If they can ban one things then what is next?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 4 2009, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL!!! Did you by the way happen to see the Playboy models sitting in Randy D's pit? No wonder he is keeping it on two wheels lately. He wants to get laid. Chicks don't like it if you don't finish!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
damn yeah

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 4 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL!!! Did you by the way happen to see the Playboy models sitting in Randy D's pit? No wonder he is keeping it on two wheels lately. He wants to get laid. Chicks don't like it if you don't finish!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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If that aint a motivation incentive, i dont know what is......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 3 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agreed with Rog on the ..... But just like tobacco, politicians will ban this in the attempt the protect us.

Hell, an Amsterdam coffee house should sponsor a motorbike rider.

Or some Columbian drug cartel. We are ....... people and we should be able to choose what the .... we put into out bodies. If we want to shoot up with heroine, why not?

Because 'shooting up' will lead to robbery and burglary, and robbery and burglary will lead to death of innocent victims, therefore in order stop the needless killing of innocent lives, drugs must be prohibited.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 4 2009, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because 'shooting up' will lead to robbery and burglary, and robbery and burglary will lead to death of innocent victims, therefore in order stop the needless killing of innocent lives, drugs must be prohibited.

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Back on topic.

Not sure where I read it, probably on this thread, but it brought up World Supersport.

Are you trying to attract riders or teams? As right now, the talent pool from 125's is pretty strong right now. Outside for a few riders on the factory team's, it can't be said about WSS.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 4 2009, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because 'shooting up' will lead to robbery and burglary, and robbery and burglary will lead to death of innocent victims, therefore in order stop the needless killing of innocent lives, drugs must be prohibited.


You really are becoming the biggest tosser on this forum. You called me a sheep recentally I just hope you got a mirror because you are reading from the great sheep bible. Go live and experience life and then form an opinion

I'm thinking of starting a poll asking how many people have taken drugs and have gone out stealing and killing people

More people die as a direct result from DUI related accidents. Do you drink beer?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ May 4 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm thinking of starting a poll asking how many people have taken drugs and have gone out stealing

I can think of one antipodean ex-bike racer if it helps

I can feel another imminent thread on this lurking within me.

No, I agree Johnny.

SS, have you ever considered the negative effects of prohibition?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 4 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can think of one antipodean ex-bike racer if it helps

I can feel another imminent thread on this lurking within me.

No, I agree Johnny.

SS, have you ever considered the negative effects of prohibition?


Of course her has'nt. He just marches to the beat of BS

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 4 2009, 06:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agreed with Rog on the ..... But just like tobacco, politicians will ban this in the attempt the protect us.

Hell, an Amsterdam coffee house should sponsor a motorbike rider.

Or some Columbian drug cartel. We are ....... people and we should be able to choose what the .... we put into out bodies. If we want to shoot up with heroine, why not?
We have Rizla, remember? I, for one, prefer a bong but a good bit of Thai stick rolled with Rizla into a big Bob Marley cone makes a good traveller...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 4 2009, 06:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But as far as the heroin .... that should be banned dude come on. Tobacco has been here for a hell of a long time. Heck the amish folk around here have huge farms devoted to it. I just think those things being what they are should be made a choice and not anything else. This should also be reflected in media. If they can ban one things then what is next?
Opiates predate tobacco in western culture by centuries as European trade with the east began long before tobacco was imported from the americas.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 4 2009, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because 'shooting up' will lead to robbery and burglary, and robbery and burglary will lead to death of innocent victims, therefore in order stop the needless killing of innocent lives, drugs must be prohibited.
What the .... can you say to such an ill informed view?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 4 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Back on topic.

Not sure where I read it, probably on this thread, but it brought up World Supersport.

Are you trying to attract riders or teams? As right now, the talent pool from 125's is pretty strong right now. Outside for a few riders on the factory team's, it can't be said about WSS.
I've been thinking the same thing. Could this be the end of the Spanish and Italian presence/dominance in the lower classes? Judging from the current 600 WSS field, the Brits and Aussies have some outstanding 600 riders. Will they even get the chance to ride in Moto2, racing is all about where the sponsorship dollars are coming from. Will we see an exodus of riders from WSS to Moto2 or do you think it will just be the same players (riders and teams) that we see now?

Obvious comparisions will develop between Moto2 and WSS, and it will beg the question which is the better series?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ May 4 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We have Rizla, remember? I, for one, prefer a bong but a good bit of Thai stick rolled with Rizla into a big Bob Marley cone makes a good traveller...


Opiates predate tobacco in western culture by centuries as European trade with the east began long before tobacco was imported from the americas.


What the .... can you say to such an ill informed view?
Yeah dude I am just saying about how tobacco is and has been more acceptable than say oh heroin.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 4 2009, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah dude I am just saying about how tobacco is and has been more acceptable than say oh heroin.
This could be a good sponsor

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ May 4 2009, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've been thinking the same thing. Could this be the end of the Spanish and Italian presence/dominance in the lower classes? Judging from the current 600 WSS field, the Brits and Aussies have some outstanding 600 riders. Will they even get the chance to ride in Moto2, racing is all about where the sponsorship dollars are coming from. Will we see an exodus of riders from WSS to Moto2 or do you think it will just be the same players (riders and teams) that we see now?

Obvious comparisions will develop between Moto2 and WSS, and it will beg the question which is the better series?

I really want to believe that Moto2 will be the greatest series on earth, but it has some fundamental flaws. The biggest problem in Moto2 is the single engine rule. For right now, there is no manufacturing money running through the Moto2 class. Rider salary will be paid by privateers.

Lack of manufacturer salary is a huge stumbling block b/c the major riders rely very heavily on Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, or Triumph paying them big bucks.

I'm hoping against all hope that the Honda engine will serve as a "control" engine and other manufacturers will be allowed to make engines that are similar but do not significantly exceed Honda's spec.

Since the governing body can tweek engine power by using a control ECU for each manufacturer, they should be able to allow many different variations of engine including triples or twins or others without having ugly parity disputes as found in the AMA or WSBK.

Without manufacturer bonus money, major riders will be enticed to stay in WSS, imo.

I'm not sure how the prototype tire will work. The Moto2 bikes are going to be pulling 3gs in the corners

No TC is going to be absolutely amazing.

At this point, I'm willing to accept control ECU's in MotoGP if it means no TC, no fuel limits, no displacement rules, more engine config variation, and decent racing. BIKES IN THE REAL WORLD ARE NOT LIMITED BY DISPLACEMENT.

Actually, I just want a top speed limit with a control tire, but unrestricted engineering freedom will never be allowed in a European series.

I wanna see so many bikes in GP that they have to split the classes into sub classes. I want each race weekend to have at least 5 or 6 races. After decades of shrinking grids they owe it to us.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 4 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This could be a good sponsor

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YEah ok the flood gates are open but in the real world people smoke in public and still has some bit of acceptability vs. cocaine and heroin type .....

link

More details on moto2...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ May 5 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>link

More details on moto2...


I wonder why yamaha is not interested. That Damn engine R6 can rev up to 18,000 RPM and giving 180 bhp at the flywheel..or maybe can get that Sauber engine...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 5 2009, 03:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah dude I am just saying about how tobacco is and has been more acceptable than say oh heroin.
Which kills more, leaves more families devastated, is a larger burden on health care, and costs tax payers more? All the heroin addicts I know are educated, productive people, many with families and high tax burdens, more than supporting the relatively few street junkies out there.

Dissapointing news from Honda,there will be no recast crankcases .......bit of a pisser as it leans away from the `prototype` roots.Also read that they will probably concentrate more on head work and may let teams have more to do with their own tuning work. Honda are expecting to deliver engines to teams around October so you may see them this year out on track.
Hmmm I wonder if Dorna are going to let unofficial CBR600 engines out on track this season to give us a taste of whats to come,I mean releasing engines in October won`t give teams much of a chance to prepare an official bike before the end of the season,will it?