It is interesting that in the interview paul butler recently gave he was clear that they have to look at intent when judging these moves, it seems clear to me that Superglu was not trying to pass and simply got in too hot with another rider unfortunately in the way. Marquez has been the cause and victim of at least equally bad incidents already this year with no action taken.
It is interesting that in the interview paul butler recently gave he was clear that they have to look at intent when judging these moves, it seems clear to me that Superglu was not trying to pass and simply got in too hot with another rider unfortunately in the way. Marquez has been the cause and victim of at least equally bad incidents already this year with no action taken.
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Can't Zarco just say, "Sorry, I didn't intend to crowd Terol." etc. Butler's perception of "intend" is full of ..... Check out Zarco again, he had a moment while executing that inside pass, I don't think he intentionally pushed Terol wide, while Terol just wasn't gonna concede either. This "intent" thing is way to foggy. Rossi's torpedo on Stoner, what the .... was the "intent" there? Dude came from a country mile back. What was Sofogulu trying to do, he ran in deep to get there. "Intent" in the mind of Paul Butler is a very inconsistent place, too bad he's got so much power. The thing is Butler is swayed by commentary. He was swayed by Lorenzo's unjustified bitching, and then in the 125, by the commentator's and Aspar team reaction. They both ran off, Zarco ran off himself. Butler has no idea what the .... "intent" is, if he did, he would have admitted he ...... up on both Rossi's infamous incidents.
Btw, the cluster .... in par ferme, that had me laughing. Did you see those fans flipping the finger to Zarco when he was waving to the crowd? Hahahaha
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Marquez was taken out by Cluzel in I think it was jerez and Marquez took out Scott Redding in estoril
There is an unacceptable lack of moto2 discussion going on around here. There was a brilliant race on Sunday, best of the day as is often the case. Bradl just put another notch on his list of impressive displays of growth, he looks on for a title and is clearly a solid and classy rider. But really i just want to talk about Bradley Smith, WHAT A RIDE! I am so incredibly impressed with What Brad did on Sunday he has gone up in my estimation even further, i'm hoping for more podiums this year please. Cheers Mr. Smith
Personally i am a bit disappointed with Moto2. In MotoGp Stoner is just 18 pts ahead of Lorenzo, while in Moto2 Bradl already has a 62 points gap over Corsi (more than 2 races wins after only 6 races!) He's doing a great job but I hope the others can raise their game a little bit.
Do you really think his motor was more powerful? I doubt it myself, i expect you of all people to know there is more to how fast you get down a straight that just power. We are talking tyre degredation, aero, technique, gearing, traction etc. Get everything right and ride near someone who didn't and the difference can be huge, even with an identical engine. Having said that, do we know much details about the engine spec? Does their power tend to fluctuate at all with mileage? Is everything sealed or is there some freedom in the ancillary components?
GO SMITH
Awesome race all round by the way
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I hear u Tom. Yes, u are correct, several factors can contribute. However, after factoring them in, my laymans opinion was that Marquez's bike had some advatage. (i misspoke and assigned it to engine power).
About the spec engine, i dont believe for one minute those engines are equal. I asked somebody about this that would hav a bit of insight, he lead me to believe the allocation process is shady.
But as u know, look no further tham MotoGP, power often doesnt hav some linear relationship to results.
About the spec engine, i dont believe for one minute those engines are equal. I asked somebody about this that would hav a bit of insight, he lead me to believe the allocation process is shady.
But as u know, look no further tham MotoGP, power often doesnt hav some linear relationship to results.
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Finally got a chance to watch the Moto2 race last night. Awesome race. Brandl and Marquez are obviously at the top of the class, but I was really impressed with Bradley again. He looked quick and solid all race long. He really is starting to put it together in the class and the podiums are happening. Go BRAD !
Please be clear, are you suggesting that certain people get allocated engines that might be more favorable than others and that it isn't as 'random' as we are led to believe? Or are you just suggesting that the quality control isn't as great as it perhaps should be and there is a difference between a good motor and a bad one, leaving teams open to misfortunated allocation? I think Marquez's bike was definitely in better shape that Brads at that point in the track, but i am far from suggesting the series is fixed, which seems to be what you are starting to suggest
I definetly noticed that Marquez had a considerably easier time getting past Bradl / Smith on the straight than Bradl or Smith had.
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Whats the weight difference between Marquez, Brandl and Smith ? I am sure I heard Europsort say that Marquez was just under 50kgs. On the striaght at Mugello and will a 600cc engine, perhaps 5kgs here or there makes a significant difference ??????
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I think this championship is far from over, if Marquez keeps putting pressure on Bradl and taking points away things could get uncomfortable for the German
Great Moto2 race today at Bruno, 4 fighting at the front last 8-10laps.
Bravo Iannone 1st Marquez 2nd Bradl 3rd.........De Angelis 4th - top racing.
Bravo Iannone 1st Marquez 2nd Bradl 3rd.........De Angelis 4th - top racing.
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Agreed top racing today very exciting right up to the line, shame Luthi dropped off and made it a four way battle but top class all the way.
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