lorenzo sign 1 year deal @yamaha

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 26 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi won't go to Ducati because of how they treat their riders. He left Honda because they were convinced the bike was the important factor. Ducati are exactly the same way, if not worse. He also wants to be remembered as a Yamaha man. I'd be shocked if Rossi ever signed for Ducati.
+1.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (slug @ Aug 26 2009, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Trust me on this.

Rossi will move to Ducati. Why?
1. Rossi = Italian = Ducati. National pride
2. He want to be the only rider to win championship under 3 different manufacturers.
And that my friends is more than a legend but immortal
Rossi said at the start of this season that he's happy with the Yamaha family and doesn't need to prove anything by going to a different manufacturer, as he has already done this and isn't as young as he was then.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A weak 50-50 compromise to avoid/postpone any real decision.
Lorenzo has panicked...
Now, the interesting thing is what Stoner will do.

Anyone with brains (and options) should rightfully be scared of
riding the Ducati in it's 800 cc form.

What have Ducati been saying about Casey and his eating habits, training regime etc?

I missed this stuff...

Let's be honest, JL just wanted to examine his options....very sensible.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Aug 26 2009, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyone with brains (and options) should rightfully be scared of
riding the Ducati in it's 800 cc form.

Not one who claims to be Rossi's successor, and a stronger rider than Stoner. That was the occasion to prove both points. Fact is, like 99% of the riders, Lorenzo can never leave the "best" bike. He's just hoping that Rossi retires at the end of 2010, and meanwhile he thinks it will be enough to keep whining about not having the 'same' bike, to justify the spankings he'll receive Sunday in, Sunday out...

Lorenzo is another Biaggi.
Give us Stoner back

No offence to Hayden, but I was really looking forward to Jorge and Stoner together at Ducaiti.
I think Stoner would have wiped him.
Stoner would continue to fight at the front with Rossi, and Lorenzo would be fighting with Dovi for 5 - 6th. This might have proven to a lot of people (incl Ducati) Stoner's ability.
If Ducati and Philip Morris put as much effort into training Stoner to be media friendly, as they have put into trying to train Marco to ride the bike, they would surely fix the problem.

Aside from only Rossi, I don't believe there is anyone else in the current group who can get the same results from the existing sloppy Ducat - although if I was Ducati, I would be chasing Marco Simoncelli. I think his agresive style would suit the Ducati.

My personal opinion is that Stoner will throw it all in at the end of 2009, and move back to the farm.

For what it is worth, I know Stoner has been talking with Troy Bayliss and Darryll Beatie since being back in Aust.

Italian magazine MotoSprint has a recent interview with Stoner, straight from his Australian farm. Stoner says he believes the Ducati is still a winning bike, but that he is not in winning shape and he can't stand the situation of not being able to fight for 1st place. He felt so miserablehaving to go to races like that, that he preferred to stop and rest. He insists he'll be back in Portugal.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Aug 26 2009, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But is is possible that Lorenzo is right?
Does Rossi get preferential treatment.. I don't think that would be a hard stretch.
No one has brought the draw to the sport that Rossi has. love him hate him whatever. Rossi's draw raised motogp to another level. His wins and legend is keeping viewership high in an down world economy.

Oh please! On a day to day basis it's not about Rossi's status among fans and followers. Above all it's got nothing to do with "preferential treatment"
It's about this:
Yamaha Racing: "We have some new prototype parts here. Just one single set because we need to verify that they work better on the bike before we make a few other sets, besides they take a weak each to make. Who are we going to trust to do this job?"
Try putting yourself in Yamaha racing departments shoes, ask this question and see what answer you come up with.
99% of the time this is the only relevant question asked in any team. Those making a big deal about it are either those that are fan of a the slower more inexperienced rider in a team and they need something else than than the rider to blame it on and out-dated parts are just a very easy target
or
a slow rider that has become the #1 rider and the fans blame his test duty and the new parts for slowing him down.
Interestingly enough one rider currently in MotoGP has been in both of those camps with the same fan base. Strange thing, those glasses

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Aug 27 2009, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yamaha Racing: "We have some new prototype parts here. Just one single set because we need to verify that they work better on the bike before we make a few other sets, besides they take a weak each to make. Who are we going to trust to do this job?"
If Lorenzo is a supposed equal, then he should be getting the same opportunity to test as Valentino. Simple as. Thoughts otherwise are wearing those same glasses, Babel.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 27 2009, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Lorenzo is a supposed equal, then he should be getting the same opportunity to test as Valentino. Simple as. Thoughts otherwise are wearing those same glasses, Babel.
+1^^^ how bout them <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%O's Ooostin!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 26 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi won't go to Ducati because of how they treat their riders. He left Honda because they were convinced the bike was the important factor. Ducati are exactly the same way, if not worse. He also wants to be remembered as a Yamaha man. I'd be shocked if Rossi ever signed for Ducati.
+1
Completely. This was unequivocally stated in 'What if I'd never tried it?' One of the main reasons Rossi left Honda was over image rights, and as Austin correctly points out, their philosophy regarding the relationship between bike and rider. Hence the convict 'ball and chain' celebration. Vale also mentioned that Ducati was an option, but he knew that they have a similar ethos to Honda.
Austin's also right about Vale's desire to become synonymous with Yamaha after he retires, in the way that Rainey is associated with the marque. So it really is unlikely, although it'd be fascinating if it happened.

Don’t forget that all JL has to do is come second to V.R. this year.
Next year this time is only half season. So if he can be in front of V.R on points, this time next year, he can name his price, even with the Yam. This might just be what he and his manager are thinking. I wouldn’t write off the fact that he is chasing money just yet.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Aug 27 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don’t forget that all JL has to do is come second to V.R. this year.
Next year this time is only half season. So if he can be in front of V.R on points, this time next year, he can name his price, even with the Yam. This might just be what he and his manager are thinking. I wouldn’t write off the fact that he is chasing money just yet.
you could be very correct, but thats a mighty big IF you got there....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Aug 27 2009, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you could be very correct, but thats a mighty big IF you got there....



Your are right but I can garatee you that JL's manager is telling him it's very probale. Only six months Joryay. Don't crash and youve got it in the bag for both of us.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Aug 27 2009, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your are right but I can garatee you that JL's manager is telling him it's very probale. Only six months Joryay. Don't crash and youve got it in the bag for both of us.
JL always ride at the limit but if he starts riding not to crash that means is he not riding at the limit which you have to do to beat Rossi all the time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Aug 27 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>JL always ride at the limit but if he starts riding not to crash that means is he not riding at the limit which you have to do to beat Rossi all the time.

Well done Mr. Obviouse. But I think you missed the point.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Aug 27 2009, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your are right but I can garatee you that JL's manager is telling him it's very probale. Only six months Joryay. Don't crash and youve got it in the bag for both of us.
Would you like to explain your point when you making statements like above.

'Wing how is inam missing the point?

OK I’ll rewrite my previous post.

Your are right but I can guarantee you that JL's manager is telling him it's very probable. Jorgay’s manager will be saying “Only six months Jorgay. Don't crash and you’ve got it in the bag for both of us”.
Inam, I was not suggesting the JL doesn’t ride on the limit, and I don’t think that he or his manager would entertain the thought of not riding on the limit. Hope that makes the point a little clearer. And by the way I was not taking a swing at you and no offence was meant.

Mick, if it still doesn’t make sense I’ll explain it to you in Thai.

NB you will notice that I have corrected the spelling as well and I am not too surprised that my post was not to clear as I was pretty oiled when I made it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Aug 28 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mick, if it still doesn’t make sense I’ll explain it to you in Thai.
Pood thai mi dai, na... roo gan mai?

Its just I figured that would have been their plan this year too... making it happen has been another matter!