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Four races, 3 1/2 different men win...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 18 2008, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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I must say, there is something not quite right with Lexicon. I was reading the Cardenas thread the other week in which he remarked that he'd like to see him consigned to the 'trackday in the sky' for wiping out Tommy at Fontana. When berated for his post, showed no remorse whatsoever. In fact he tried to justify it. Marijke, we need another psycho-analysis here, the guy was using cacti as an extended metaphor for his own psyche. Prick(ly) he may be...he should stay away from the peyote. He reminds me of one of those paranoid NRA weirdo's holed up in a ranch in Texas...oh he is from Texas, y'don't say....a real life Dale Gribble!


Dale Gribble? You flatter me
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I think you have control issues. I don't have any obligation to do what society tells me to do. What I said about Cardenas is unthinkable in the Western World, but it has no impact on a man's life, racing career, or value to society. All it did was stir up the beehive so it was right up my alley.

But you are right about one thing, I didn't take Martin's feelings into consideration.

Dear Martin,

I shouldn't have treated your life as joke fodder and I shouldn't have suggested that heaven is an appropriate venue for your racing at this time.

Love,

Mylexicon XOXOXO

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As for my conspiracy theories, you are slightly correct about shoehorning, but not entirely. As evidenced above I make the best of my opportunities. All I do is take logically obvious results and then cite logically obvious conspiracies. Whether or not they are related is for you to decide.

Here's an example. Barros beat Stoner at Mugello in 07. The obvious result that Barros was probably not going to score another podium. He runs D'Antin equip and he sealed the deal when he injured himself. The obvious conspiracy to anyone who knows racing or Ducati, was that BorgoPignali would ring Barros and tell him to get his head out of his ... (quite a few were on top of it). I said the two were related. People who don't know the sport or Ducati wasted so much energy fighting about whether or not Borgo Pig would ring Barros that when it was openly admitted upon his retirement it gave creed to the theory that Ducati screwed Barros over the second half of the season.
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I did the same thing with this round. I was confident Rossi would win this round b/c the 08's were made to be better in Europe, the Yamaha is great, and Rossi is a legend. Dani gave me a scare but things turned out in the end. DORNA was kind enough to make a completely biased advertisement before the race glorifying the man they are supposed to be treating like everyone else. What did you want me to do? Waste a perfect opportunity to highlight Ezy's corruption? No thanks.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 19 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As for my conspiracy theories, you are slightly correct about shoehorning, but not entirely. As evidenced above I make the best of my opportunities. All I do is take logically obvious results and then cite logically obvious conspiracies. Whether or not they are related is for you to decide.

Here's an example.
Oh no..what have I done?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 19 2008, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh no..what have I done?

I'm being spineless and contrite.

I'm surprised it isn't garnering rave reviews from you.

You wasted all that breath and you can't even enjoy getting your way?
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Now you know why I don't do what other people say.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ May 20 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mugello next race? I'd be putting my money on Rossi for the win.
no ...., thats brave of you, is this to prove your not a fan boy. he has never lost there inthe motogp era and the betting odds are 11/13.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 19 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>no ...., thats brave of you, is this to prove your not a fan boy. he has never lost there inthe motogp era and the betting odds are 11/13.

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My money is on Stoner.

Actually, Hayden (but if not him, then Stoner for the win, he's pissed he didn't make the podium last year, thanks to that ......, non-team player Barros.)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 20 2008, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My money is on Stoner.

Actually, Hayden (but if not him, then Stoner for the win, he's pissed he didn't make the podium last year, thanks to that ......, non-team player Barros.)
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and he got a right bollocking for that as did capi when he beat the little aussie kid. dont ya just love team orders.
cant find the odds for stoner winning the mugello race. looks like he is 8.00-1 for the championship while vale is 1.80-1.
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horhay 3,80-1. pedrobot 3.80-1, hayboy
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wait for it....101-1, that would be a nice bet if it came in.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2008, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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and he got a right bollocking for that as did capi when he beat the little aussie kid. dont ya just love team orders.
cant find the odds for stoner winning the mugello race. looks like he is 8.00-1 for the championship while vale is 1.80-1.
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horhay 3,80-1. pedrobot 3.80-1, hayboy
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wait for it....101-1, that would be a nice bet if it came in.
Still slagging off the Aussies eh Rog? Something new for you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 19 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My money is on Stoner.

Actually, Hayden (but if not him, then Stoner for the win, he's pissed he didn't make the podium last year, thanks to that ......, non-team player Barros.)
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I thought Hayden was gonna win Mugello after last season but I was counting on the 08 pneumatic lump being ready.

There is still a glimmer of hope, but I'm guessing it's still a piece of junk and that's why they aren't forcing Nicky to run it.

I can't see a situation where a spring valved engine could win at Mugello, you're at full throttle too long and the engine will be drinking fuel at an alarming rate.

If I remember correctly Dani doesn't want the pneumatic engine because it has a much higher center of gravity. The petite little rider has trouble manhandling the bike from side to side as a result. Nicky on the other hand is hoping it will be finished because he is fine riding bikes with a poor center of gravity ('06) and he doesn't get his body as far under the bike as the smaller guys, so the high center of gravity helps him.

Bets on top speeds?

I bet the Ducati hits at least 345kph.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ May 20 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Still slagging off the Aussies eh Rog? Something new for you.
where ? thats all off the betandwin website . facts not opinion as is the barros and capi caper.
keep trying sunshine
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 20 2008, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nicky on the other hand is hoping it will be finished because he is fine riding bikes with a poor center of gravity ('06)

Can i ask you to tell me more about the centre of gravity on Nickies 06 bike? I have read nothing negative about it, quite the opposite in fact!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 20 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can i ask you to tell me more about the centre of gravity on Nickies 06 bike? I have read nothing negative about it, quite the opposite in fact!
Hmm thought the only issue with his 2006 bike ("the aggresive evolution") was the clutch?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thom @ May 20 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmm thought the only issue with his 2006 bike ("the aggresive evolution") was the clutch?
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damn that caused some heated debates in 06 haha.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thom @ May 20 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmm thought the only issue with his 2006 bike ("the aggresive evolution") was the clutch?

Yea well there was the issue with testing the new swingarm at the British grand prix, that was a bad team decision more than a bike issue. The clutch cooling problems are well documented but i was under the impression that the 2006 evo chassis was an improvement on the original model (as this was the motive for using it) at the expense of aome engine power.

Either way the bike did exactly what it was built to do, so can only be considered a success.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 19 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm being spineless and contrite.

I'm surprised it isn't garnering rave reviews from you.

You wasted all that breath and you can't even enjoy getting your way?
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Now you know why I don't do what other people say.
It is Lex, I actually find your obvious erudition very entertaining.

I didn't waste a single breath, due to the fact I typed it.

You're not really a member of the NRA are you...only I don't particularly want you finding out where I live
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 20 2008, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can i ask you to tell me more about the centre of gravity on Nickies 06 bike? I have read nothing negative about it, quite the opposite in fact!

Yes.

The Evo engine was dubbed "the high-crank V5". I can't remember why they raised the engine, but I seem to remember that other internal components had to be moved downward and as a result the engine was sent upward. The entire experiment was to raise the center of mass, but the spread of the internal parts led to balance issues.

Anways, reporters asked Nicky to say one good thing about the 2007 model. He said he was really pleased with the bike's weight distribution. He said the new bike changed direction very well compared to his championship bike and it was easy to go from full lean on one side to full lean on the other.

That seems to suggest that the 2007 had a lower center of gravity. I'm sure less reciprocating mass helped but I'm confident they ditched the high-crank nightmare for the RC212V.

In any event the 2006 was an experimentation in high mass. Honda's pneumatic lump has a higher center of gravity. Both of those were relatively mainstream tech reports.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 20 2008, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes.

The Evo engine was dubbed "the high-crank V5". I can't remember why they raised the engine, but I seem to remember that other internal components had to be moved downward and as a result the engine was sent upward. The entire experiment was to raise the center of mass, but the spread of the internal parts led to balance issues.

Anways, reporters asked Nicky to say one good thing about the 2007 model. He said he was really pleased with the bike's weight distribution. He said the new bike changed direction very well compared to his championship bike and it was easy to go from full lean on one side to full lean on the other.

That seems to suggest that the 2007 had a lower center of gravity. I'm sure less reciprocating mass helped but I'm confident they ditched the high-crank nightmare for the RC212V.

In any event the 2006 was an experimentation in high mass. Honda's pneumatic lump has a higher center of gravity. Both of those were relatively mainstream tech reports.

On the standard issue '06 bike crank was indeed raised and the engine was shorter overall, reverting the longer swingarm (similar to the M1), that had been rejected the year before by Biaggi and Gibernau. I think they pissed about with the balance/mass of the bike to quicken its steering like the Yam, but ended up initially jeopardizing much of the bikes strengths that Nicky had by then been exploiting so deftly.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 20 2008, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>On the standard issue '06 bike crank was indeed raised and the engine was shorter overall, reverting the longer swingarm (similar to the M1), that had been rejected the year before by Biaggi and Gibernau. I think they pissed about with the balance/mass of the bike to quicken its steering like the Yam, but ended up initially jeopardizing much of the bikes strengths that Nicky had by then been exploiting so deftly.

Yes, thank you.

They lengthened the swing arm and that's why they had to send some internal parts to the bikes extremities. Now I remember.
 
Damn the conspiracies against Stoner may be true

As Reported Here in MOTOGP


Casey Stoner´s results on Bridgestone tyres are unparalleled in MotoGP, but the 2007 World Champion and his Ducati Marlboro crew have been left puzzled by the inconsistent performance of a particular rear tyre as of late.

The Australian ran a tyre used with little success in Portugal at the Le Mans post-race test, and immediate improvements caused pleasure and confusion in equal measures.

`We worked on an old rear tyre from Portugal that went well; before we´d been struggling to get any kind of rear temperature. This one now seems to be running where we need it to be. The grip level is unbelievable,´ said Stoner on Monday afternoon.

`We put it on today without changing anything, and immediately the lap times went down. We don´t understand exactly why that is yet.´

Aside from the engine breakdown both experienced and resolved during Ducati´s stay in France, front rubber was also singled out for attention during the test. Although the perfect front tyre still eludes Stoner, he believes that it is one of the final pieces in the jigsaw to return to the top of the standings.

`With a better front I think that at least here we would have been more competitive. Maybe we wouldn´t have won the race, but at least fighting for the podium,´ reviewed the reigning title holder.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ May 21 2008, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Damn the conspiracies against Stoner may be true

As Reported Here in MOTOGP


Casey Stoner´s results on Bridgestone tyres are unparalleled in MotoGP, but the 2007 World Champion and his Ducati Marlboro crew have been left puzzled by the inconsistent performance of a particular rear tyre as of late.

The Australian ran a tyre used with little success in Portugal at the Le Mans post-race test, and immediate improvements caused pleasure and confusion in equal measures.

`We worked on an old rear tyre from Portugal that went well; before we´d been struggling to get any kind of rear temperature. This one now seems to be running where we need it to be. The grip level is unbelievable,´ said Stoner on Monday afternoon.

`We put it on today without changing anything, and immediately the lap times went down. We don´t understand exactly why that is yet.´

Aside from the engine breakdown both experienced and resolved during Ducati´s stay in France, front rubber was also singled out for attention during the test. Although the perfect front tyre still eludes Stoner, he believes that it is one of the final pieces in the jigsaw to return to the top of the standings.

`With a better front I think that at least here we would have been more competitive. Maybe we wouldn´t have won the race, but at least fighting for the podium,´ reviewed the reigning title holder.

Stoner also recently commented that the soft tires aren't soft anymore. They now last the race distance without wearing down the edges.

I think Rossi is still the only person to attempt running a soft tire in a race (Qatar). I'm pretty sure that soft tires have more or less been eliminated for budgetary reasons (Dorna told them to chuck soft tires to keep cornerspeeds down).
 

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