Four races, 3 1/2 different men win...

As far as lex's speculations go, I am in agreement with at least 3 things.

Dorna are
(a)incompetent
(b)totally commercially driven
©unlikely to take the sport in a good direction long term

The 800cc formula which I think they rather than bike racing guys had a large hand in devising is evidence for this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll make a list, it's easier to understand that way.
And change your story? Now Hayden does have the parts/chassis specs/08 bike/whatever it is that your claiming, but runs Pedrosa's set up? Yeah, that would work. Their styles and physical dimensions are identical after all...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>5. The team fought for at least 1 day over who would race the 2008 spec
Ah, so now they 'fought' for a day over it. With such a pitched battle, the press just treated it as an elephant in the room?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Honda offered an ultimatum that if they couldn't come to a consensus neither of them would ride it.
Did they now? Is this one of your 'logical' leaps of faith? Btw, that pot plant in the corner of your room you sometimes talk to isn't actually an avatar of Hamane.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Honda covered the crisis up with a strange press conference stating Repsol may run the 2007 due to edge grip problems.
This would be the press conference they had before the start of the race weekend? ie. Before Pedrosa's crash? Vague as ever, no details, facts or links to said facts.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>7. Nicky yielded because there was not a situation under which he was going to be able to ride the 2008 bike. Pedrosa/Puig weren't going to let him have it. I'm sure Hamane got up in his ear about being a team player; and said Honda wouldn't go out of their way to help him if he didn't help Honda. Blah blah blah
And here I thought you were a Hayden fan; you keep painting him as a spineless HRC lap dog.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your incredulity is shocking
Your fantasies are hilarious

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm suggesting this new collusion was hammered out at the end of 2007. Way before the end of 2006.

Nicky rode the spare parts bin into the champions circle. There were no rules governing that disaster of a machine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I'm suggesting Stoner may be on the wrong end of some under-the-table technical agreements.

Nicky has benefited as a result of the same agreements.
so how and more importantly when did nicky benefit ??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2008, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so how and more importantly when did nicky benefit ??
Christ...is this still raging?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ May 17 2008, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>lex's speculations

Are they really worth all this time, effort and attention Mike?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 17 2008, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I could go on for days.
Please don't...you already have

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ May 17 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmmm...seems to be telling you different things than it's telling me. Can the box be lying? It's telling me Stoner will win tomorrow. But then again these boxes lie to me quite a lot. Does tv stand for truth vision in the UK? Over here it stand for totally vacant!
so you say your box see's into the future ? mine only shows whats happening when its happening and what happened in the fast, so mines truth vision and yours must be trip vision as you seem to hallucinate when you watch it, or mabe you have a ttv, time travel vision as you seem to be looking into the future.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 17 2008, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Please don't...you already have

That gave me a good laugh.

Now back on topic ... I had to go back to Jumkies original post to work out what this thread was actually about ...

CV will defend his title and win tomorrow.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ May 17 2008, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now back on topic ... I had to go back to Jumkies original post to work out what this thread was actually about ...

CV will defend his title and win tomorrow.
what title ? the i can only win if it rains and slows everyone else down title cv's done jack .... lately.

Look out the POMMIES are coming! Go Toser!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> what title ? the i can only win if it rains and slows everyone else down title cv's done jack .... lately.

He won at Le Mans last year didn't he?! That makes it his title to defend ... seems pretty straight forward to me!

"cv's done jack .... lately." ... fair call ... he must have been living in the UK for too long and seems to have developed some unwanted characteristics!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ May 17 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He won at Le Mans last year didn't he?! That makes it his title to defend ... seems pretty straight forward to me!

"cv's done jack .... lately." ... fair call ... he must have been living in the UK for too long and seems to have developed some unwanted characteristics!
im sure the history books will remember him for that in many decades to come . race winner yes, title holder no.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im sure the history books will remember him for that in many decades to come . race winner yes, title holder no.
I think Krusty was saying he was the French GP title holder. Pretty sure he knows that Stoner is the world champ.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ May 17 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Krusty was saying he was the French GP title holder. Pretty sure he knows that Stoner is the world champ.
i would say he was last years french race winner, title holder is something completely different imo. and i was talking to krusty about cv not stoner !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i would say he was last years french race winner, title holder is something completely different imo. and i was talking to krusty about cv not stoner !
Unless I am mistaken he is the French MotoGP title holder ... or am I, or you for that matter, missing something!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ May 17 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Unless I am mistaken he is the French MotoGP title holder ... or am I, or you for that matter, missing something!
well if thats what it takes to give you sado's a sense of worth than be my guest. i just think calling a race winner a title holder is an exaggeration, especially seeing he only won once last year in the rain when we even had the likes of de punet and guinters leading the race . im not saying his win wasn't good and i will give props where due but theres only one title in motogp and that the world championship title.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 10 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who will win at LeMans?



That's all you need to know. Isn't the governing body supposed to maintain neutrality? Marketers crack me up.

First part is true already.

True b/c conspiracy, who knows, but you asked for results and you're getting them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 18 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First part is true already.

True b/c conspiracy, who knows, but you asked for results and you're getting them.
shut it you nutter

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 18 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>shut it you nutter



I must say, there is something not quite right with Lexicon. I was reading the Cardenas thread the other week in which he remarked that he'd like to see him consigned to the 'trackday in the sky' for wiping out Tommy at Fontana. When berated for his post, showed no remorse whatsoever. In fact he tried to justify it. Marijke, we need another psycho-analysis here, the guy was using cacti as an extended metaphor for his own psyche. Prick(ly) he may be...he should stay away from the peyote. He reminds me of one of those paranoid NRA weirdo's holed up in a ranch in Texas...oh he is from Texas, y'don't say....a real life Dale Gribble!