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The people who are whining about being bored, are the same people who are pushing for CRT. Almost all of the people who are bored and pushing CRT, are Rossi fans, except for one drunk who just likes to argue the other side of the fence
You blamed Rossi for the CRT bikes, when it has .... all to do with him but to you everything is his fault. As a result of those CRT bikes the series is becoming more stabilized and we now have Aprilia back in GP, we also have Suzuki set to make a come back and BMW might be interested for the future. This was all a result of Dorna taking the power away from the msma and proving that they were serious by creating the CRT category. Maybe the Rossi fans are also fans of intense racing with passing and plenty of action. I would say the future is looking bright for GP and if they can draw in more sponsors and manufacturers maybe one day there will be no more CRT bikes. If everyone was like you GP would be doing just fine and sponsors would be pouring money hand over fist to put their logo on the bikes, but that isn't the case.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaPs8sxqB0Son of Doohan (welcome back btw), BarryMachine, Mental, Pov, Levi etal, Get him!
(or does this only apply to Talpa describing the racing as processional?)
I was wondering if anyone else had the same general feeling about CRT. In like a lion, out like a lamb. One day, IRTA are working together, Aprilia are testing CRT grenades, and the MSMA are complaining about CRT impropriety. The next day, IRTA are pinching pennies, Aprilia are content to sit on the couch and recieve lease fees, and the CRTs are a solid 45 seconds off of race pace. It's as if the entire motorcycling world overworked themselves to get to 2012, and now they barely have enough energy to ride in circles.
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No, im blaming his whining ... fans.
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If Rossi was ever down on HP I would suggest that it was largely of his own doing because he does not like an aggressive engine. He compromises power for smoothness. He is still trying to do the same now.
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If the figures kicking around at the moment of 275-285 hp, I'm sure he could lose some without too many issues. Desmodromics probably have a bit to do with it too, probably spins up real quick. Don't see them getting rid of that style of valve setup too soon though
But Preziosi has mentioned that the new engine will have more torque & be less reliant on top end speed.
Beats me.
The truth is that several baseless conspiracies have been proposed regarding Honda Stoner, the reality is that they have occupied 2/3 of the podium positions in all the 2012 races so far. If Dorna is trying to slow down Stoner, Honda, and help Ducati, Rossi...they are failing miserably.
Dorna .... up everything else they do, so why not this.Everything they do to control cost, make the racing closer has the opposite effect, makes it more expensive, more processional racing etc. I think you've solved the mystery. Dorna want to slow Stoner down, the result is he goes faster. They want Rossi closer to the front, therefore he goes backwards. Dorna ha ha. Idiots.
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But Preziosi has mentioned that the new engine will have more torque & be less reliant on top end speed.
Beats me.
Right. In fact Preziosi has already expressed his doubts that a less peaky engine with more torque can help, as the current bike has more than enough torque already and adding more could just trigger more TC interventions. But since it is a request coming from Rossi, they are obliging and will verify how it actually works on the track.
I think the real reason for a revised engine is that it is going to be closer to full capacity than the current 930cc. There too, it will have to be seen what the real benefits are.
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Not true !
Loris Capirosi Ducati 2007 season
Turkey 3rd
Germany 2nd
Japan 1st
Australia 2nd
Welcome back Rog
Sure the others had a podium here or there but they weren't contenders.
What I was getting at is that yes the bike had some noticeable advantages. That was obvious (top speed & tires) no question.
But the rider was also a very big part of Ducati winning the 2007 title.
In 2008 & 2009 the Yamaha was a very good bike as well. But Edwards wasn't going to get the job done was he?
It needed a great rider along with a great bike & consistent tires.
Yes they are rather selective our band of Neo's........the race was no where near as entertaining as reading the .... on here!!
Whats wrong with saying the race was boring? its suppose to be a race, we had what, 3-4 visible passes-mostly for 8th? Compared to Moto2 it was a snore fest. And its interesting that many suggest we should turn off and watch something else, funnily enough I was switching to WSBK quite often, and rather disappointed when the race was canned, as I would have watched it, and occasional flicked to Motogp for an update, just like a TV daytime soapie, you can come back to it now a not have missed much.
The Neo's always bring in the Rossi excuse, like its their 'warm blanket' to cling to in all argument, pathetic as usual. Even a casual observer could tell from practice that Rossi was going to be mid-pack in the race, yet we watched it anyway. The 'Rossi' factor is what we want, from someone like Lorenzo to stand up make a race of it, like we all know Rossi would have had he been in that position on that Yamaha. Polite, processional racing is what has brought about all of these reg changes, which still seem to have no effect-as most us knew they wouldn't without the removal of the fuel limit and the control rubber.
I find Lorenzos comments on Stoner a little disturbing to be honest, like some gay euro adoration that's effected him in the head. What happened to the Lorenzo that was so hungry to beat Rossi a few years back? And would put the moves on, whenever possible? Sure, I want to see respect between riders, but they are also in competition, and if they have so much respect for each other, and are not hungry enough to make a move, then its time to let someone else have a go......as I said before, this does not auger well for Dorna, having the three top guys willing to ride around patting each other on the back is not what fans will pay to see, unless they are neo's and Casey is winning........And of course, maybe Lorenzo couldn't have done anything as his bike wouldn't let him, Nicky's woes were a harsh reminder of what electronics, fuel computers and live telemetry communication have made of this sport of which I've been a fan of for many years, maybe its just too professional in all facets these days.
Whatever happens or doesn't happen at ducati this late in rossi's career doesn't mean he didn't ride fantastically all those years to win all those championships, and as I have previously said if he is no good, similarly with stoner given his now imposing if lesser record, then the whole sport is not worth worrying about.
He is the anomaly though, not stoner, with many of the previous most successful riders being on the taciturn side and only sheene coming to mind as having a similar degree of charm and flamboyance mixed with being very successful; I don't know how ago comported himself when he was racing.
You seem to be arguing though that he should be winning because he is so popular though, and I don't think genuine sports do or should work like that, and again as I have said someone as unpopular as stoner being able/being allowed to win is proof of rossi's championships not being contrived.
I am actually sick of all the anti-rossi stuff as well, but I don't forget how vicious and sustained (and largely untrue) the previous criticism of stoner was particularly in 2009, which went close to destroying his career.
Wow, its 2012 and people are still trying to discount Casey's 2007 title. Ok, the bike was fast. So what? He still had to ride the bloody thing. How many other riders have won a title on a Duck? Give the man some credit where it is due. Put him on a Yam and he'll win on that too. I get the feeling that Stoner haters are pathetic little creatures that are probably too hopeless to forge a life of their own. The life that they invested in Valentino Rossi is dying an inglorious death, and their distorted bitterness somehow makes them hate Stoner for it. How about we enjoy the racing of today and live in the present. It will also serve more respectfuly to Vale's past greatness, rather than desecrating his achievements by acting like a bunch of screaming girls at a boy-band concert.
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So Stoner can't make mistakes now he is on the Honda?
Youre talking ....., I don't mention Rossi beating Stoner or current form anywhere in the post, I'm saying that Jorge's racecraft isn't working, and he needs to pressure Stoner.
Please use your obviously fruitful imagination to better use than imagining words on an internet forum.
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So Rossi didn't beat Stoner in 2008 now? Holy .... you guys take the biscuit, why don't we give him Doohan's titles too?
Sorry folks but some posts are not gonna be a Casey circle jerk, it's getting grim on here that unless you declare your love and admiration for Casey you are not entitled to an educated opinion.
Nowhere am I slagging off Caseys ability to ride, I am saying that the others have to make him fight for the wins.
I think a few folk need to go on an understanding the English language forum to learn what words actually mean before coming on here.
Arrabbiata1 Wayne Rayne doesn’t even come close to Stoner look what happened to him! He’s in a wheel chair and a non-factor and this is because he was just not good enough or didn’t cut the field! Now JohnnyKnockdown you are just an ..... that thinks that you are funny and so intelligent...my comments were honest and true....... your interpretation of my post because you and the rest just don’t have any idea of what you are talking about and the joke at the end of 2012 will be really on you because you are so stupid and have no idea about motogp! Just wait and see what Stoner will do in 2012 and then all of you will have egg on your face! And NOW for the GENIUS...MdubSTYLIE...you are just an ..... that has...NO IDEA...a 5 year old is more intelligent then you and has more imagination than you because it proves that you have never had kids you have never ever brought up kids and your imagination far outweighs your talent or your mind...GET A LIFE BESIDE POWERSLIDE!
