Donington GP- practice and quali discussion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 21 2008, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Quali. .......

even West beat him!

Was it wet? Vermi and West in top ten. Let me know what west does in the dry. Spies has about as much wet track experience as you and pinky make sense--close to zero.

God Damn is there alot of ... kissing in here.

With CURVE getting all these hickies, he won't be able to sit for years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pepik128 @ Jun 21 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We all know everything is bigger and better in the USA.


Bigger yes but not always better

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smaid @ Jun 21 2008, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To be honest, I don't know. But perhaps just a more positive outlook? More feeling from the bike in general? I have no idea but as soon as he starts looking good again the complaints roll in, I don't want to start a big argument about it with anyone but its just the same old crap when anyone else other than Rossi or Lorenzo wins.
Is it really necessary to make up an explanation? He had a little bit of bad luck and a few mistakes this year, other than that, its really about the same form as last year. Are we still giving the machine/electronics credit after Melandri, on same package can barely manage around the track? Let it go man. Reasonable people know the score.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (odessa @ Jun 21 2008, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bigger yes but not always better

I had that on my avi for a few weeks. That pic is still the funniest thing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jun 21 2008, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hahahaha - I see the usual crap is being spouted yet again. Didn't we see enough of this last year? Not the speed and TC now? Just the TC? Same predictable .....
No Doo, just a few. Rossi and Stoner have a few mindless apologists on both sides. Its pretty easy to weed out these fools. The rest of the members are fairly reasonable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KurtC @ Jun 21 2008, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pedrosa 9th , let's see if he can do what Rossi did last race in montmelo, finishing 2nd or at least 3d
God know tire management is never an issue. Full throttle all the time, no worries about tire wear. He should actually move up. Question: Would Honda have Nicky slide in behind him for the sake of points?--(assuming Hayden doesn't go backwards as usual).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Jun 21 2008, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>God Damn is there alot of ... kissing in here.

With CURVE getting all these hickies, he won't be able to sit for years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vibe @ Jun 21 2008, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If the Duc. is dialed in to such an advantage then why isn't Marco second on the grid?
You would think with all that unique wet feeling of the Ducati he talks about might help him when its 'actually' wet.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 21 2008, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Funny how the Vegemite flys out of the cabinet when Stoner does well....you guys should support your boy even when DNFs
That would require heart. Something rather obviously absent in Barry & Pinks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 21 2008, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How do you do that? ...... I know you seem to be able to rave about pretty dismal performances but its not really in the Aussie vernacular to say much when there ain't much to write home about
Translation: You got no heart. (Don't generalize about Aussies; I have found almost none of them like you. You’re the exception it seems, you, pinks & alphabet). Plenty of Aussies here making posts even when Stoner makes a few mistakes writing fair and balanced posts. Unlike you and your dumber version, who crawl back into a cave when the going gets rough, or switch allegiance to a Spaniard.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 21 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Question: Would Honda have Nicky slide in behind him for the sake of points?--(assuming Hayden doesn't go backwards as usual).

If they had the same engine, I go with yes. Since they don't and HRC is trying to save face, I'll go with no.

If there are team orders, Nicky should keep the ear plugs in.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 21 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats Right! Don't .... with TEXAS! Because they're too busy ....... their sisters.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 21 2008, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He's going to lap the field by the time Laguna rolls around.
This is the kind of stuff that the Ameri-rider haters jump all over. So here is a disclaimer: Some Spies fans are excited, that all, we are not really saying he is gonna lap people, its more like rooting. Ok. So don't get all crazy Neil/Migs, etc. Also, look, Lex hasn't had his meds today.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jun 21 2008, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because they're too busy ....... their sisters.

Thats Arkansas .......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 21 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In a world with no yaw, what you've said is true. However, using less lean to make the same turn means the bike is controlling yaw effectively and making more efficient use of the work the tires supply. In theory, leaning the bike less does require less work.

If the tires are working less to make a turn, there is more work available for acceleration.

I will admit though, the efficient use of yaw is probably not nearly as important as the rider's feel. Riders are comfortable spinning the rear on a bike that is close to vertical. Most of them are not keen to risk spinning the rear wheel when the bike is at full lean. TC has changes things a lot though.

What do you mean about yaw. I had to google it and found it's the movment from side to side a boat does. Much similar to a bike flicking from one side to the other? is that it?
Are you talking about the suspension here or what? Why does the tires work less with the same force?
We allready agreed that high COG put more stress on the tires through harder working suspension. In a stable turn/lean angle how can the COG influence the "work" of the tire? I'll give you one though, the suspension work very ineffectivly at high lean angle and that put more stress on the tire when it hits bumps and might influnce tire wear.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 21 2008, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is the kind of stuff that the Ameri-rider haters jump all over. So here is a disclaimer: Some Spies fans are excited, that all, we are not really saying he is gonna lap people, its more like rooting. Ok. So don't get all crazy Neil/Migs, etc. Also, look, Lex hasn't had his meds today.

Where are all the JT fanwankers?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pepik128 @ Jun 21 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We all know everything is bigger and better in the USA.
Ah the sarcasm, are you from Texas?

Pepik, let me educate you a bit. Texans are loud. They think everything is better and bigger in Texas (its actually a state moto, look it up). Notice the flag, you see more Texas flags there than you see US flags, no joke. Hell they still think they are their own country. Perhaps you, migs, neil, and the gang can see that the US is a big place, but some people stand out for different reasons. I myself am from California, totally different place with our own peculiar characteristics. Lots of good people from Texas, some are bad, very bad. Our prez is from Texas--enuf said. But don't get all bothered, just run with it. They got something to root for, a native son is doing well when you and a few sounded ready to pounce on the guys (maybe not you) about making excuses if he didn't deliver. Well, you gotta be a bit impressed. I know you like circumstances and all, so factor into your circumstances bit that in the US, wet is almost never a race factor, so Spies has zero to no experience, unlike Euro riders. Then factor in all the other circumstances: new bike, new track, new tires, new circus, etc and etc, then you begins to see why these guys are hooting and hollering as if he scored something for the Texas team (notice its about Texas, not so much the US). You get me? We (I mean all us Americans) got something to be happy about. Hayden seemingly doing ok (I'm not gonna hold my breath, race is a race, qual is qual), and Spies not last, that’s something to be happy about, at leat for the moment; you get the picture.

Cut some slack.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 21 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>3620:1990Seri...Schwantz.jpg]
Poetry in motion!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 21 2008, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah the sarcasm, are you from Texas?

Pepik, let me educate you a bit. Texans are loud. They think everything is better and bigger in Texas (its actually a state moto, look it up). Notice the flag, you see more Texas flags there than you see US flags, no joke. Hell they still think they are their own country. Perhaps you, migs, neil, and the gang can see that the US is a big place, but some people stand out for different reasons. I myself am from California, totally different place with our own peculiar characteristics. Lots of good people from Texas, some are bad, very bad. Our prez is from Texas--enuf said. But don't get all bothered, just run with it. They got something to root for, a native son is doing well when you and a few sounded ready to pounce on the guys (maybe not you) about making excuses if he didn't deliver. Well, you gotta be a bit impressed. I know you like circumstances and all, so factor into your circumstances bit that in the US, wet is almost never a race factor, so Spies has zero to no experience, unlike Euro riders. Then factor in all the other circumstances: new bike, new track, new tires, new circus, etc and etc, then you begins to see why these guys are hooting and hollering as if he scored something for the Texas team (notice its about Texas, not so much the US). You get me? We (I mean all us Americans) got something to be happy about. Hayden seemingly doing ok (I'm not gonna hold my breath, race is a race, qual is qual), and Spies not last, that’s something to be happy about, at leat for the moment; you get the picture.

Cut some slack.

Just like the Schwantz days

Go TEXAS!


They got nice Paddock girls as well