Donington GP- practice and quali discussion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jun 21 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Also, someone please explain why Honda would give an ultimatum to Nicky saying that he must qualify at least 4th on the grid. WTF There must be some bad blood going on behind the closed doors.

I suspect someone in HRC has - GASP! - a sense of humor and made a wise crack that Nicky later related to the press. OTOH, Haystack said he got pretty worked up during the 'discussion' about using the air lump. With his knack for understatement, I have to wonder what he really said to the those corporate drones.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jun 22 2008, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Also, someone please explain why Honda would give an ultimatum to Nicky saying that he must qualify at least 4th on the grid. WTF There must be some bad blood going on behind the closed doors.
ALL HONDA ARE BS
That's what Rossi told me...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 22 2008, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, that is right.

Imagine you have a bike that can turn both wheels. You turn the front wheel to the right and the rear wheel to the left. If you push the bike it will ride around in circles.

Obviously, such a bike would create very violent handling characteristics because it would turn too sharply at speed, but this is more or less how a motorcycle works. The front applies centripetal force slightly more aggressively, the rear turns slightly less aggressively---the bike rides a circle. Tire profile, tire compounds, contact patch, gyroscopic forces, weight distribution, steering mechanisms, chassis flex, etc. all help alter the vector of the centripetal force applied.

I fail to see the need to use sentipetal forces to illustrate the bikes turning. They allways work AFAIK 90 deg to direction of the steering (front wheel) and 90 deg to the bike direction. (rear wheel). It's impossible for me to see what you mean about this sentence: "The front applies centripetal force slightly more aggressively, the rear turns slightly less aggressively"
Eactly what are the rear doing? Apply less agressive force, is that what you have replaced with "turn"?

But that's all fine, but what has this to do with our COG and how that influence tire grip?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 22 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im going to ....... die

Just make sure you get enough to drink, beer that is.