<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sarto @ Jun 22 2008, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Septics?
I don't think they'd quite get that humour.
I don't think they'd quite get that humour.
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American culture attitudes in a nutshell.
Northeasters hate everyone south of Connecticut
New Yorkers think they are better than everyone and are intolerable
Texans think they are better than everyone but are tolerable
The south (rednecks) hate everyone who isn't white and even white people who aren't from the south
Midwesteners hate gay's and other so called bible abominations
Nor Cal's hate So Cals for stealing their water.
Hawaiians hate non natives
North Floridians hate South Floridians because So Fl is another country
And like the rest of the world everyone hates the jews.
Most of our opinions are vastly different.
So when I root for Spies it's with my teeth gritted saying pretty fast for a damn Texan
DISCLAIMER. For you overly sensitive types it's a joke not an anti semitic comment.
Northeasters hate everyone south of Connecticut
New Yorkers think they are better than everyone and are intolerable
Texans think they are better than everyone but are tolerable
The south (rednecks) hate everyone who isn't white and even white people who aren't from the south
Midwesteners hate gay's and other so called bible abominations
Nor Cal's hate So Cals for stealing their water.
Hawaiians hate non natives
North Floridians hate South Floridians because So Fl is another country
And like the rest of the world everyone hates the jews.
Most of our opinions are vastly different.
So when I root for Spies it's with my teeth gritted saying pretty fast for a damn Texan
DISCLAIMER. For you overly sensitive types it's a joke not an anti semitic comment.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 21 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In my world thats done by the steering wheel
That didn't make any sense to me, at least not in our discussion. You have a very different view point of forces applied and that make it very hard for me to follow. You describe the bike turning: " that centripetal force at the front is on a different vector than centripetal force in the rear. "
Im too tired too even try to follow you. It doesn't mean you are wrong, just that you have a different reference point. Most people agree that by giving the front wheel a different direction than the bikes direction you force the bike to lean over and eventually turn, as the front wheel come back in "line". I use "line" as it now actually steers into the turn.
Yeah, that is right.
Imagine you have a bike that can turn both wheels. You turn the front wheel to the right and the rear wheel to the left. If you push the bike it will ride around in circles.
Obviously, such a bike would create very violent handling characteristics because it would turn too sharply at speed, but this is more or less how a motorcycle works. The front applies centripetal force slightly more aggressively, the rear turns slightly less aggressively---the bike rides a circle. Tire profile, tire compounds, contact patch, gyroscopic forces, weight distribution, steering mechanisms, chassis flex, etc. all help alter the vector of the centripetal force applied.
That didn't make any sense to me, at least not in our discussion. You have a very different view point of forces applied and that make it very hard for me to follow. You describe the bike turning: " that centripetal force at the front is on a different vector than centripetal force in the rear. "
Im too tired too even try to follow you. It doesn't mean you are wrong, just that you have a different reference point. Most people agree that by giving the front wheel a different direction than the bikes direction you force the bike to lean over and eventually turn, as the front wheel come back in "line". I use "line" as it now actually steers into the turn.
Yeah, that is right.
Imagine you have a bike that can turn both wheels. You turn the front wheel to the right and the rear wheel to the left. If you push the bike it will ride around in circles.
Obviously, such a bike would create very violent handling characteristics because it would turn too sharply at speed, but this is more or less how a motorcycle works. The front applies centripetal force slightly more aggressively, the rear turns slightly less aggressively---the bike rides a circle. Tire profile, tire compounds, contact patch, gyroscopic forces, weight distribution, steering mechanisms, chassis flex, etc. all help alter the vector of the centripetal force applied.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Jun 22 2008, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>American culture attitudes in a nutshell.
Thanks for clearing that up. Are Alaskans so hated they don't even rate a mention?
Thanks for clearing that up. Are Alaskans so hated they don't even rate a mention?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jun 21 2008, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can we still call all you Americans 'yanks'?
As long as you are referring to an American who lives north of the Mason Dixon line and East of the Mississippi River.
As long as you are referring to an American who lives north of the Mason Dixon line and East of the Mississippi River.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 22 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As long as you are referring to an American who lives north of the Mason Dixon line and East of the Mississippi River.
I see the "union" is well and truly united!
I see the "union" is well and truly united!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 22 2008, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't worry about it. Just call us whatever you like. It's all the same.
Just like the UK, Great Britain, and England, they're all the same too.
United Kingdom is the name of the country UK which includes England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
England is the biggest nation in the UK
And Great Britain is the island on which England, Scotland and Wales reside.....
America is not a cuntry... the United States of America does, and it shortened to America because American do not realize they live on the North American and it has a partner Continent of South America...so everyone from Canada to Chile is American...
Everyone clear now?
And it is always cold and rainy in the UK....
Just like the UK, Great Britain, and England, they're all the same too.
United Kingdom is the name of the country UK which includes England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
England is the biggest nation in the UK
And Great Britain is the island on which England, Scotland and Wales reside.....
America is not a cuntry... the United States of America does, and it shortened to America because American do not realize they live on the North American and it has a partner Continent of South America...so everyone from Canada to Chile is American...
Everyone clear now?
And it is always cold and rainy in the UK....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 22 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No. Lean angle is refered to as roll.
OK thanks
OK thanks
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Jun 21 2008, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>America is not a cuntry... the United States of America does, and it shortened to America because American do not realize they live on the North American and it has a partner Continent of South America...so everyone from Canada to Chile is American...
Yes. Thank you for clearing that up.
But you forgot to mention that we call ourselves Americans because we do not acknowledge any of the pretend countries that have formed in the new world. As far as we know, we are still the only ones who made it to the Americas and formed a nation. Everyone else is just screwing around in the Uncolonized zone.
Yes. Thank you for clearing that up.
But you forgot to mention that we call ourselves Americans because we do not acknowledge any of the pretend countries that have formed in the new world. As far as we know, we are still the only ones who made it to the Americas and formed a nation. Everyone else is just screwing around in the Uncolonized zone.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 22 2008, 03:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes. Thank you for clearing that up.
But you forgot to mention that we call ourselves Americans because we do not acknowledge any of the pretend countries that have formed in the new world. As far as we know, we are still the only ones who made it to the Americas and formed a nation. Everyone else is just screwing around in the Uncolonized zone.
True...you just need to know spanish to really survive in America today and in the future....I am in Boston this week, and I hear more spanish now than I did 2 years ago....America will soon be the United American Estados de Mexico...
But you forgot to mention that we call ourselves Americans because we do not acknowledge any of the pretend countries that have formed in the new world. As far as we know, we are still the only ones who made it to the Americas and formed a nation. Everyone else is just screwing around in the Uncolonized zone.
True...you just need to know spanish to really survive in America today and in the future....I am in Boston this week, and I hear more spanish now than I did 2 years ago....America will soon be the United American Estados de Mexico...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Jun 21 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True...you just need to know spanish to really survive in America today and in the future....I am in Boston this week, and I hear more spanish now than I did 2 years ago....America will soon be the United American Estados de Mexico...
Hopefully the Canadians will descend on America to then we will be trilingual.
OMG, Americans can speak more than one language! Then all we have to do is get skinny and we will have the moral authority to do whatever we want!
Hopefully the Canadians will descend on America to then we will be trilingual.
OMG, Americans can speak more than one language! Then all we have to do is get skinny and we will have the moral authority to do whatever we want!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jun 21 2008, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for clearing that up. Are Alaskans so hated they don't even rate a mention?
Apparently they hate sunlight. Lots in common with the Brits.
Migs go ahead call a Bostonian a "yank" and see if you come home with your teeth in.
Apparently they hate sunlight. Lots in common with the Brits.
Migs go ahead call a Bostonian a "yank" and see if you come home with your teeth in.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sarto @ Jun 21 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Septics?
just had to look it up: septic
nice one
just had to look it up: septic
nice one
Well I live in the northwest now and have lived in many places. Up here nobody gives a .... and gets along....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Jun 21 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>United Kingdom is the name of the country UK which includes England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
England is the biggest nation in the UK
And Great Britain is the island on which England, Scotland and Wales reside.....
America is not a cuntry... the United States of America does, and it shortened to America because American do not realize they live on the North American and it has a partner Continent of South America...so everyone from Canada to Chile is American...
Everyone clear now?
And it is always cold and rainy in the UK....
Still and always been totally confused about the UK
Wales has it's own government but still is under English rule?
If you are from Wales are you English to foreigners but Waleish to English.
Scottish government is completely seperate from English but Wales is not?
Part of Ireland lies in the UK? Is that Irish rule?
England is the biggest nation in the UK
And Great Britain is the island on which England, Scotland and Wales reside.....
America is not a cuntry... the United States of America does, and it shortened to America because American do not realize they live on the North American and it has a partner Continent of South America...so everyone from Canada to Chile is American...
Everyone clear now?
And it is always cold and rainy in the UK....
Still and always been totally confused about the UK
Wales has it's own government but still is under English rule?
If you are from Wales are you English to foreigners but Waleish to English.
Scottish government is completely seperate from English but Wales is not?
Part of Ireland lies in the UK? Is that Irish rule?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Jun 22 2008, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Still and always been totally confused about the UK
Wales has it's own government but still is under English rule?
If you are from Wales are you English to foreigners but Waleish to English.
Scottish government is completely seperate from English but Wales is not?
Part of Ireland lies in the UK? Is that Irish rule?
To everyone the Welsh are Welsh and the Scots are Scots, Ireland is divided the North is under British rule and the South is a Republic.
Wales has it's own government but still is under English rule?
If you are from Wales are you English to foreigners but Waleish to English.
Scottish government is completely seperate from English but Wales is not?
Part of Ireland lies in the UK? Is that Irish rule?
To everyone the Welsh are Welsh and the Scots are Scots, Ireland is divided the North is under British rule and the South is a Republic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Jun 21 2008, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Apparently they hate sunlight. Lots in common with the Brits.
Migs go ahead call a Bostonian a "yank" and see if you come home with your teeth in.
Johnny!!!
You weren't supposed to tell him!
Migs go ahead call a Bostonian a "yank" and see if you come home with your teeth in.
Johnny!!!
You weren't supposed to tell him!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 22 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is the kind of stuff that the Ameri-rider haters jump all over. So here is a disclaimer: Some Spies fans are excited, that all, we are not really saying he is gonna lap people, its more like rooting. Ok. So don't get all crazy Neil/Migs, etc. Also, look, Lex hasn't had his meds today.
Any reasonable poster can filter out the excitement and smile about it.
There will be a couple ( they know who they are ) who will take him to task on his post later.
A fantastic debut for him in circumstances that have stacked up against him.
( lack of experience on the bike, New track, rain etc ) A top 10 finish would be an awesome result for him.
I expected Stoner and Vermeulen to fight for pole given their wet weather records, but I actually thought Valentino was the surprise of the session for me. To be lining up second on the grid was a very good effort considering the struggles he has had all weekend. Apparently the weather is meant to improve for the race. Any of you locals able to confirm this?
Any reasonable poster can filter out the excitement and smile about it.
There will be a couple ( they know who they are ) who will take him to task on his post later.
A fantastic debut for him in circumstances that have stacked up against him.
( lack of experience on the bike, New track, rain etc ) A top 10 finish would be an awesome result for him.
I expected Stoner and Vermeulen to fight for pole given their wet weather records, but I actually thought Valentino was the surprise of the session for me. To be lining up second on the grid was a very good effort considering the struggles he has had all weekend. Apparently the weather is meant to improve for the race. Any of you locals able to confirm this?
