Donington GP- practice and quali discussion

1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 38.232 secs
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 38.881 secs
3. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 39.018 secs
4. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 39.270 secs
5. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 39.601 secs
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 39.783 secs
7. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 39.995 secs
8. Ben Spies USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 40.244 secs
9. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 40.350 secs
10. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 40.417 secs
11. John Hopkins USA Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 40.539 secs
12. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 40.595 secs
13. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 40.667 secs
14. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 41.110 secs
15. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 41.379 secs
16. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 41.751 secs
17. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 41.873 secs
18. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 42.933 secs

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 21 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pure .........


so where has he been the last few races?

............yeah needing an advantage to win is ........

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 22 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>anyway i think its pretty sad that his performance comes down to electronics now he has even more of a advantage just like last season...he had only the speed advantage this season now he has a handling advantage again........just like last season

this has nothing to do with the setup poor stoner has been looking for and whinging about he just need to have to electronic backup
Hahahaha - I see the usual crap is being spouted yet again. Didn't we see enough of this last year? Not the speed and TC now? Just the TC? Same predictable .....

SPIES 3rd ROW!


Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Pinkerton style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 22 2008, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so where has he been the last few races?

............yeah needing an advantage to win is ........
More ........

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 21 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>give me another explanation then.............??

whats been the problem the last few races????

hurry up with that answer then i have to go out.............???

To be honest, I don't know. But perhaps just a more positive outlook? More feeling from the bike in general? I have no idea but as soon as he starts looking good again the complaints roll in, I don't want to start a big argument about it with anyone but its just the same old crap when anyone else other than Rossi or Lorenzo wins.

Pedrosa 9th , let's see if he can do what Rossi did last race in montmelo, finishing 2nd or at least 3d

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 21 2008, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pinky why dont u go sign up to hong kong forum your only here because stoners on top........

anyway i think its pretty sad that his performance comes down to electronics now he has even more of a advantage just like last season...he had only the speed advantage this season now he has a handling advantage again........just like last season

"stoner gives credit to electronics breakthrough"

this is not what a world champion should be saying or baseing a performance on this is supposed to be the pinicle of motorbike racing not a pre programed fun fair ride..........
Don't disagree regarding pinky.

Electronics could refer to many things other than tc though. I thought stoner may be implying that they have changed the power delivery by the ducati engine rather than the tc; one of our italian ducatisti said earlier in the season that the power delivery by the engine is what ducati had changed from last year and that this was the problem rather than the chassis or a change in the aerodynamics as I and many others had assumed. It looks like he may have been right. Stoner has been saying he couldn't push hard because the bike didn't behave consistently from lap to lap; looks like they have solved that problem.

I am also well aware that one v. rossi is second on the grid and stoner is far from having won the race yet.

And one other thing; like him or not, this is another example of casey telling the unvarnished truth as he sees it, as is his wont.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KurtC @ Jun 21 2008, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pedrosa 9th , let's see if he can do what Rossi did last race in montmelo, finishing 2nd or at least 3d

Pedro is DONE
Stoner can walk away with it as far as i care...he's 50 points behind

Well done to Spies. Brilliant effort on a bike he's hardly seen at Donnington in the wet on new tyres. Big league for you next year.
Stoner's looking pretty good wet or dry. Nice work Vale and CV. If it's wet it'll be damn interesting.
Westy - hopefully you've found something, and you to Nicky.
Looks like Jorge has decided to take the right option and get a bit more experience at this level by not crashing.
What happened JT? Bad luck, but home town pressure can be hard to handle. Keep it upright in the race.
Dani - OK for you, glad to see the TC helps out your wet weather riding.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jun 21 2008, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hahahaha - I see the usual crap is being spouted yet again. Didn't we see enough of this last year? Not the speed and TC now? Just the TC? Same predictable .....


nope didnt mention the speed advantage cos he still has it so yeah its just the TC/electronics

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smaid @ Jun 21 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To be honest, I don't know. But perhaps just a more positive outlook? More feeling from the bike in general? I have no idea but as soon as he starts looking good again the complaints roll in, I don't want to start a big argument about it with anyone but its just the same old crap when anyone else other than Rossi or Lorenzo wins.


i dont care who wins id like rossi to win but would be boring if he won every dam race, i like to see riders work for the win not have to rely on the electronics so much.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 21 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>More ........

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 22 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i dont care who wins id like rossi to win but would be boring if he won every dam race, i like to see riders work for the win not have to rely on the electronics so much.
Can you keep a secret....................Rossi's bike is ....... loaded with electronics. As is every other bike on the grid. Don't tell anyone else!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 22 2008, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can you keep a secret....................Rossi's bike is ....... loaded with electronics. As is every other bike on the grid. Don't tell anyone else!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 22 2008, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so where has he been the last few races?

............yeah needing an advantage to win is ........


Spoken by true dumb Rosie groupie

If the Duc. is dialed in to such an advantage then why isn't Marco second on the grid? You Rosie groupies are so one eyed, you denigrate anyone who represents competition to Rosie and you'll hang on to any little misrepresentation to make yourself feel good in your efforts.

I like Rosie because he enjoys the opposition otherwise what is the point?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 21 2008, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i dont care who wins id like rossi to win but would be boring if he won every dam race, i like to see riders work for the win not have to rely on the electronics so much.

Yeah I agree with that, always good to have different winners and good races. But when Rossi wins I don't complain about him having the best stuff, he’s just a damn good rider and came out top on the day.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 21 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can you keep a secret....................Rossi's bike is ....... loaded with electronics. As is every other bike on the grid. Don't tell anyone else!

Lol, exactly.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 22 2008, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can you keep a secret....................Rossi's bike is ....... loaded with electronics. As is every other bike on the grid. Don't tell anyone else!

No! ...... gee I'm stunned ..... why only last year Jaskat and Andrew convinced me that Rossi's bike was powered ignition from Rossi rubbing two sticks then the glowing ember shoved down the plughole!! ..... each stroke .... I mean gee Rossi is pure and wholemeal!! And just as they told me Stoner is the king of TC and electronics ...... I assumed they mean that Rossi was the king of caveman style bike enhancements

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 22 2008, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>nope didnt mention the speed advantage cos he still has it so yeah its just the TC/electronics
Obviously it's so much quicker than anyone else

Funny how the Vegemite flys out of the cabinet when Stoner does well....you guys should support your boy even when DNFs