It’s basically one half of the Panigale V2 engine.
Same approach (But very different use cases) that Aprilia took with the RS660.
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It’s basically one half of the Panigale V2 engine.
Same approach (But very different use cases) that Aprilia took with the RS660.
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But, quite a different sound. The V2 Panigale doesn't sound farty to me at all.
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Do they really need any escape clause? I would have thought every factory would pay whatever KTM would demand, to sign him.
KTM has given him the opportunity to make the steps from Rookies Cup to MotoGP. I like to see that he is willing to remain loyal to them, for the time being.
If his trip to Mattinghofen is anything to go by, he could become a rider associated with one bike he could mould into his own.
It would be good for the championship if Pecco/Marquez/Aldeguer/Diggia would fight it out with the KTM lads, led by Acosta, the Aprilia led by Martin, Yamaha led by Quartararo and Honda tamed by Razgatlioglu.
If the next step doesn't come for the KTM, HRC will rescue him after next season. If the KTM stalls developments during the 2025 season, all factoring will be able work make room for him. Maybe even Ducati Corse..
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I think you're quite optimistic about the possible return to form of HRC.
Either you are a motocross rider or a handsome guy. Both conditions at the same time is impossible.
Its Duke or go home...anyone else may as well not line up imo.
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I think the other European manufacturers have a good chance of matching Ducati sometime in the future. Yamaha looks like they are serious. I'm not yet convinced by HRC. Is it still true that the next updates for HRC are probably arriving about September?
But the music sounds totally crappy. (censors will delete the word I'd rather use).
If everyone thought like this there would be no reason to race at all.
Things in racing are cyclical. There were days, where it was MV or go home, HRC or go home etc. as well.
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Indeed, remember the early 2010's when it was 2 Hondas, 2 Yamahas and the rest a mile off? The podium was pretty much Pedrosa/Lorenzo/Stoner/Rossi or Spies.
Interesting article on Honda and Yamaha’s technical progress by Mat Oxley
www.motorsportmagazine.com
Yamaha improving step by step, another all-new Honda RC213V on the way?
Yamaha is trying to fix its YZR-M1 with regular updates while Honda's MotoGP team seems to be taking a different route, with hints of an all-new RC213V for September
www.motorsportmagazine.com
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Interesting in the philosophy differences from the two manufacturers. But for Yamaha they at least seem to have a solid baseline, whereas Honda have realised they don't.
I remember hearing after the Valencia test how the 2024 Honda was a big step forward, so much so that some speculated Marquez would go back to Honda for the 2025 season. I was not convinced and Marc himself subsequently said that when following the 2024 Honda at the Valencia tests, he saw the exact same problems.
You don't go from their situation to race winning in a season. It too Ducati what, 6 years and multiple concessions/burned out riders to get back to winning.
I remember hearing after the Valencia test how the 2024 Honda was a big step forward, so much so that some speculated Marquez would go back to Honda for the 2025 season. I was not convinced and Marc himself subsequently said that when following the 2024 Honda at the Valencia tests, he saw the exact same problems.
You don't go from their situation to race winning in a season. It too Ducati what, 6 years and multiple concessions/burned out riders to get back to winning.
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Interesting article on Honda and Yamaha’s technical progress by Mat Oxley
Yamaha improving step by step, another all-new Honda RC213V on the way?
Yamaha is trying to fix its YZR-M1 with regular updates while Honda's MotoGP team seems to be taking a different route, with hints of an all-new RC213V for September
I think Yamaha have got a better chance of sorting the M1 out before Honda does of doing that with the RC213V. I'm interested in seeing how the Honda gets around Silverstone this year with all of the bumps in the tarmac from the F1 cars. Not for the faint of heart.
Agreed with both of you that Yamaha is better placed, due to their change in mindset and hiring the right people. I knew that they were beefing up the Italy base, which definitely is a step in the right direction whereas Honda only has a European test team (Bradl’s) and the engineers are still Tokyo based.
That said, I see merit in Oxley’s theory that Honda is building an all new bike, which is why the current one is seeing no updates.
The current RCV started out as a problem child and most likely hit its development ceiling pretty fast. The M1 in comparison seems to have a lot more development potential in its current avatar.
That said, I see merit in Oxley’s theory that Honda is building an all new bike, which is why the current one is seeing no updates.
The current RCV started out as a problem child and most likely hit its development ceiling pretty fast. The M1 in comparison seems to have a lot more development potential in its current avatar.
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This makes me feel more positive for Honda than the situation appeared to me before. But, both teams are working, and have more opportunity to progress than the European teams due to concessions.Interesting article on Honda and Yamaha’s technical progress by Mat Oxley
Yamaha improving step by step, another all-new Honda RC213V on the way?
Yamaha is trying to fix its YZR-M1 with regular updates while Honda's MotoGP team seems to be taking a different route, with hints of an all-new RC213V for September
But, I suppose the first opportunity we get to compare these different strategies is in September.
The concessions should bring them much closer to the front of the grid in both cases. If not, that will have been an opportunity squandered.
Yamaha has been competitive more recently than Honda too. In 2022 Quartararo scored eight podiums including three wins. Admittedly not all of the reasons for Honda doing much worse in 2024 were due to the bike. But it's about two years ago Yamaha was at the front, while for Honda, it's been longer.
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And while most of Reddit and Motorsport.com will blame Marquez for this. The current RCV was designed based on the requests from Pol Espargaro (more rear grip, so the engine was rotated backwards for one). At least the previous (up to 2021) iteration won races. The 2022 onwards has frankly, been a pile of dog poo.
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Honda reminds me of Ducati in the early days, making changes to fix issues but the changes don't fix those issues, however it sounds like they are changingInteresting article on Honda and Yamaha’s technical progress by Mat Oxley
Yamaha improving step by step, another all-new Honda RC213V on the way?
Yamaha is trying to fix its YZR-M1 with regular updates while Honda's MotoGP team seems to be taking a different route, with hints of an all-new RC213V for September
