Well done JM, fully deserved it and nice to see Pecco being the gentleman and staying humble in defeat.
2024 Round 21 Valencian GP of Catalunya
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It seems like they did some changes to the bike and he felt better in warm up. Was able to ride how he wanted to.
Bagnaia very likely did have him covered, but I suspect passing attempts might have occurred in different circumstances.
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Marc Marquez reveals technical reversion that helped him to Barcelona MotoGP podium
"My technician was super-great through the night — he doesn’t sleep a lot I think…”
“Today was a difficult day, especially because yesterday was a difficult Sprint race,” Marquez told the post-race press conference in Barcelona.
He added that some technical changes to his bike setup were key to his improved performance on Sunday.
“But my technician was super-great through the night — he doesn’t sleep a lot I think.
“We analysed everything we did, and we come back more or less to the bike we started with in FP1.
"Already in the Warm Up I start to feel better and in the race I was riding in my way.
“Of course, we had some weak points, but I was strong in my strong points, so that was super-positive.”
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I think that every year there will be some riders that improve unexpectedly and some that go the other way. So, we need to be re-evaluating riders every year. Not from scratch; a rider is not just their last year. But, we need to keep an eye out on which riders are on the ascendent, and which are perhaps burning out.
KTM will be an interesting group to watch next year. Acosta will have learned a lot about MotoGP, and I expect him to be better. Binder about the same. And Vinales and Bastianini - I don't know. But, these are just expectations. Reality will always turn out to be different.
KTM will be an interesting group to watch next year. Acosta will have learned a lot about MotoGP, and I expect him to be better. Binder about the same. And Vinales and Bastianini - I don't know. But, these are just expectations. Reality will always turn out to be different.
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There's quite a personal account from Martin in the following link. He mentions using the medium rear as the safe option, even if it gave up some performance. He had previously said that he would copy Bagnaia, but then didn't.
Jorge Martin: “I had a lot of fears; ‘I will never be MotoGP champion’"
“I still can't believe it, I'm in shock!”
I much prefer seeing the championship being finally decided - as in the very last race where it is decided - to be done on the track without crashes. Especially if those crashes are where the contender is blameless and has been punted off. Again, I got my wish.
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BTY it was good to Alex E up the pointy end, a fitting way to end his career
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He described it as a 10/10 performance, and he said he had to ride beyond the limit to stay behind Martin.
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Yeah . . . That’s basically my mantra before key races. “Please don’t let the race be decided by crashes or rider collisions.”There's quite a personal account from Martin in the following link. He mentions using the medium rear as the safe option, even if it gave up some performance. He had previously said that he would copy Bagnaia, but then didn't.
Jorge Martin: “I had a lot of fears; ‘I will never be MotoGP champion’"
“I still can't believe it, I'm in shock!”www.crash.net
I much prefer seeing the championship being finally decided - as in the very last race where it is decided - to be done on the track without crashes. Especially if those crashes are where the contender is blameless and has been punted off. Again, I got my wish.
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No - he’s normal sized. His wife in an Ent.
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Congratulations to JM on securing the title. Fortunately he didn't have to do much other than stay on the bike for the duration of the race.
I wonder what might have been had he needed to finish at least P2 to secure the title.
Pecco rode a great race. But were I him, I wouldn't be terribly encouraged by the fact that he was never really able to get away from MM on last season's bike. At least MM kept him honest for the duration of the GP.
Overall race was meh. Nothing terribly exciting to be seen. At least the Aleix/A.Marquez battle was fun to watch.
Terrible circuit for a final race. Hope this never happens again.
Enea was complaining Aleix was riding as a wingman for JM, but I loved his response to it saying (paraphrasing) that he was on a Ducati and wasn't close to getting past any of them when he needed to for P3 in the final standings. I wonder how much money that cost him to lose out on P3 in the standings. Also, I am getting tired of the announcers breathlessly talking about Enea's tire management which I don't find to be anywhere near as good as they like to portray it. He had some good races during the season no doubt, but the only time his tire management really showed was at Mugello, and he didn't even win the race. He isn't bad at tire management, but nowhere as good as some corners like to claim as far as I am concerned.
Looking around social media, people were lauding Pecco for his sportsmanship in the wake of his defeat. I disagree entirely on this. I caught a glimpse of him in parc ferme looking saltier than a 16 piece bucket of KFC. You could tell he was struggling to even be "happy" for JM like he tried to portray. Sure losing the title sucks, but he has no one to blame but himself. 11 GP wins, and no title. Frankly, he's a ....... embarrassment in my eyes. He's so devoid of any charisma that his forced congratulations and celebration for JM was about as hollow as the space in his head when it comes to assessing the risks of drunk driving. Was glad to see him lose the title. The more consistent rider won out in the end, and that's what it is supposed to be about at the end of the day. Sure JM didn't win many GP's relatively speaking, but that's only one measure of the total picture. It's all about total points tally in the end, and how you get there is less important than the fact that you got there. Quite a deserving champion in the end in Martin. Even if he never wins another title again, he managed to do it. Good for him, he deserved it.
Looking back it was a rather interesting season from all classes.
Hopefully 2025 is explosive.
I wonder what might have been had he needed to finish at least P2 to secure the title.
Pecco rode a great race. But were I him, I wouldn't be terribly encouraged by the fact that he was never really able to get away from MM on last season's bike. At least MM kept him honest for the duration of the GP.
Overall race was meh. Nothing terribly exciting to be seen. At least the Aleix/A.Marquez battle was fun to watch.
Terrible circuit for a final race. Hope this never happens again.
Enea was complaining Aleix was riding as a wingman for JM, but I loved his response to it saying (paraphrasing) that he was on a Ducati and wasn't close to getting past any of them when he needed to for P3 in the final standings. I wonder how much money that cost him to lose out on P3 in the standings. Also, I am getting tired of the announcers breathlessly talking about Enea's tire management which I don't find to be anywhere near as good as they like to portray it. He had some good races during the season no doubt, but the only time his tire management really showed was at Mugello, and he didn't even win the race. He isn't bad at tire management, but nowhere as good as some corners like to claim as far as I am concerned.
Looking around social media, people were lauding Pecco for his sportsmanship in the wake of his defeat. I disagree entirely on this. I caught a glimpse of him in parc ferme looking saltier than a 16 piece bucket of KFC. You could tell he was struggling to even be "happy" for JM like he tried to portray. Sure losing the title sucks, but he has no one to blame but himself. 11 GP wins, and no title. Frankly, he's a ....... embarrassment in my eyes. He's so devoid of any charisma that his forced congratulations and celebration for JM was about as hollow as the space in his head when it comes to assessing the risks of drunk driving. Was glad to see him lose the title. The more consistent rider won out in the end, and that's what it is supposed to be about at the end of the day. Sure JM didn't win many GP's relatively speaking, but that's only one measure of the total picture. It's all about total points tally in the end, and how you get there is less important than the fact that you got there. Quite a deserving champion in the end in Martin. Even if he never wins another title again, he managed to do it. Good for him, he deserved it.
Looking back it was a rather interesting season from all classes.
Hopefully 2025 is explosive.
I agree that Frantisek is perhaps the second-least-charismatic person in the world but I do think he deserves credit for not doing anything unfair in the race.
He could've tried to bunch up the entire field riding slowly like Hamilton did during that Abu Dhabi race 8 years ago which would've been the only realistic chance of Jörg dropping below 9th or getting taken out by someone.
Aleix didn't do anything wrong. He merely defended his position like he was supposed to do. It was quite clear that he didn't have the pace of Jörg.
I was also expecting more out Enea. Some great performances but he can't be satisfied with his season as a whole.
Just to piss you of even further and give another excuse for you to bang the sobriety drum BMW have given Pecco a new M5 for being the best qualifier throughout the season.
You see what you want. You hear what you want.
After putting yourself on the line in 40 races, and more than 40 qualies (as Friday's practice is a mini quali), having minor injuries, winning more GPs than anyone who haven't won a world championship title, you'd expect him to be what? Content? Pleased? He is not the Dalai Lama, and being pleased right after losing you're title, you should sit next to Randle McMurphy.
He started his Parc Ferme interview with - I don't want to take the shine away from Jorge's title. He went onto say that if anyone else won the title, he is pleased that it was Jorge.
He has said for two years, in every single presser, that he has a good relationship with Jorge, even if both are fighting for that one spot on the top of the podium.
Pecco lacks charisma, he isn't good at branding himself, has almost no presence in SoMe. He is quite boring off the bike.
Lucky for him, he is fast on one.
I agree, you can’t expect anyone to be deliriously happy about failing by 10 points to ascend into the stratosphere of 3 time world champions, which would have made him pretty much by definition a top 10 rider all time/legend of the sport, and with the task of winning further titles probably more difficult for the next 2 seasons at least.
He seems to have dealt with the loss with as much or more grace as anyone has done,, and certainly in a vastly superior manner to his erstwhile mentor.
It's probably too long ago for anyone of you to remember that so I'm gonna call out myself. After COTA I predicted Mav would have a career year and challenge for the title.
As it turned out, after perhaps his best weekend ever it was back to the usual qualifying between 4th and 8th and running between 14th and 18th after lap one.
He never got close to another podium.
As it turned out, after perhaps his best weekend ever it was back to the usual qualifying between 4th and 8th and running between 14th and 18th after lap one.
He never got close to another podium.
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Did you miss when he blamed everything but himself for anything that went wrong? Or others for his own stupid mistakes?
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If this drawn out shaming of Pecco (who I’ve never liked) hadn’t dragged a dead horse through multiple threads, I wouldn’t mention it, but several of the members of this thread who continually harp about this, were, and continue to be, long time avid supporters of a certain member of this forum (no longer here but much recounted) who - as of the last time I met with him, was a rabid and unapologetic heavy user of booze and coke. Can’t say that that member ever drove the family car while inebriated, but I wouldn’t bet the house against it. Not wishing to start a flame war here, but in the big picture, a one-time incident of driving while inebriated - by a very young guy, who never hurt anyone, is just absurd. My guess is that same former member, who bragged endlessly about his insane consumption of 101 proof Rum and absinthe, would agree with me. Enough already. People need to stop clutching their pearls over this .....
Is there anyone here who’s never done something stupid or morally repugnant when in their youthful 20’s? Are there any stone-throwers who can seriously argue that someone that young, should be defined for the rest of his life by one dumb incident that hurt no-one? He’s a guy who goes fast on a motorcycle, not the Pope or the Dali Lama. He has enough pressure just doing what he’s paid to do. I doubt very much there’s anything in his contract that specifies he should be a moral beacon for the youth of the world. He’s a racer, not a Sunday school teacher.
It should be pointed out that there were a lot of members here back in 2006 who had their torches and pitchforks out and were circling Pedrosa’s castle for years calling out for his blood over his collision Nicky, and years later, when the smoke cleared, give him the respect he deserves.
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