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Marquez is saying he'll be out as much as another month.
All eyes on the Hondas this weekend. Morbid curiousity?
All eyes on the Hondas this weekend. Morbid curiousity?
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Pedrosa tops the first practice 
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Pedrosa drifting the KTM in the final sector and making up .2 in the final sector. Not bad, my dude. He's riding better than he ever has, I guess, through we don't know how much tire he burned up to achieve that result. I guess we'll find out when they actually turn up with wick to decide the sprint grid.
Warmer conditions seem to be leveling the playing field. Temps are supposed to remain elevated, though cloud cover on Sunday will probably bring down track temperatures. Or maybe the tire pressure rules are leveling the playing field?
Yamaha are wandering in the wilderness. Is this the beginning of another 10 year drought, like they suffered after Rainey's untimely accident? I guess it's too early to make assumptions since the factory Ducatis didn't accomplish much. Bastianini doesn't look up for it. I wonder if he's really okay.
Warmer conditions seem to be leveling the playing field. Temps are supposed to remain elevated, though cloud cover on Sunday will probably bring down track temperatures. Or maybe the tire pressure rules are leveling the playing field?
Yamaha are wandering in the wilderness. Is this the beginning of another 10 year drought, like they suffered after Rainey's untimely accident? I guess it's too early to make assumptions since the factory Ducatis didn't accomplish much. Bastianini doesn't look up for it. I wonder if he's really okay.
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MotoGP P2 Results:
1. Aleix Espargaro - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) - 1'36.708s
2. Maverick Viñales - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) - +0.002s
3. Jack Miller - AUS - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.127s
4. Johann Zarco - FRA - Pramac Ducati (GP22) - +0.188s
5. Miguel Oliveira - POR - RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) - +0.248s
6. Alex Marquez - SPA - Gresini Ducati (GP22) - +0.333s
7. Marco Bezzecchi - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) - +0.466s
8. Francesco Bagnaia - ITA - Ducati Lenovo (GP23) - +0.525s
9. Dani Pedrosa - SPA - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.543s
10. Luca Marini - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) - +0.568s
11. Jorge Martin - SPA - Pramac Ducati (GP23) - +0.598s
12. Brad Binder - RSA - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.682s
13. Raul Fernandez - SPA - RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) - +0.695s
14. Takaaki Nakagami - JPN - LCR Honda (RC213V) - +0.775s
15. Fabio Quartararo - FRA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - +0.797s
16. Franco Morbidelli - ITA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - +0.992s
17. Fabio Di Giannantonio - ITA - Gresini Ducati (GP22) - +1.152s
18. Stefan Bradl - GER - Team HRC (RC213V) - +1.165s
19. Joan Mir - SPA - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +1.208s
20. Enea Bastianini - ITA - Ducati Lenovo (GP23) - +1.277s
21. Alex Rins - SPA - LCR Honda (RC213V) - +1.424s
22. Jonas Folger - GER - Tech3 GASGAS (RC16) - +1.990s
23. Augusto Fernandez - SPA - Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)* - +2.220s
24. Iker Lecuona - SPA - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +2.566s
1. Aleix Espargaro - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) - 1'36.708s
2. Maverick Viñales - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) - +0.002s
3. Jack Miller - AUS - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.127s
4. Johann Zarco - FRA - Pramac Ducati (GP22) - +0.188s
5. Miguel Oliveira - POR - RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) - +0.248s
6. Alex Marquez - SPA - Gresini Ducati (GP22) - +0.333s
7. Marco Bezzecchi - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) - +0.466s
8. Francesco Bagnaia - ITA - Ducati Lenovo (GP23) - +0.525s
9. Dani Pedrosa - SPA - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.543s
10. Luca Marini - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) - +0.568s
11. Jorge Martin - SPA - Pramac Ducati (GP23) - +0.598s
12. Brad Binder - RSA - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.682s
13. Raul Fernandez - SPA - RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) - +0.695s
14. Takaaki Nakagami - JPN - LCR Honda (RC213V) - +0.775s
15. Fabio Quartararo - FRA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - +0.797s
16. Franco Morbidelli - ITA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - +0.992s
17. Fabio Di Giannantonio - ITA - Gresini Ducati (GP22) - +1.152s
18. Stefan Bradl - GER - Team HRC (RC213V) - +1.165s
19. Joan Mir - SPA - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +1.208s
20. Enea Bastianini - ITA - Ducati Lenovo (GP23) - +1.277s
21. Alex Rins - SPA - LCR Honda (RC213V) - +1.424s
22. Jonas Folger - GER - Tech3 GASGAS (RC16) - +1.990s
23. Augusto Fernandez - SPA - Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)* - +2.220s
24. Iker Lecuona - SPA - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +2.566s
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I'm a big Dani fan a pumped he is up there, but don't forget he was testing here last month.
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Go Dani!
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Pedrosa tops the first practice
Knowing full well that over the course of the weekend and onwards, things will change but man this effort by Dani bought back memories of the time CS turned up at Sepang, dropped a time to beat and left after having done little riding at all, never mind competitively, just as Dani.
To me, it is an illustration of the era in which those guys rode that so may years after their last 'battles in anger' they can come out, cut the time. It is so much of what we miss with their not competing and really does say, just how good these riders were in the times past.
Totally admit that it is nothing but practice, and that a few riders could and have done this but to me it always brings back teh memory of their past deeds and just shows how flaming good they were and how, at times and Dani hits this category, how taken for granted their skills may have been
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One good race and Morbideli thinks he can put his bike anywhere. Good thing his name isn't Marc or he'd have a penalty.
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I think he has always been an ass. One of those true yellow horde models.
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I won't argue with that
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I say FIM should sanction Marc with another double long lap penalty just to be safe.
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Jokes aside, Binder is the sprint GOAT.
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that just adds risk as he will have to pass more riders. I say that just have him start every race from pole.
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Perhaps a little tough, I very definitely disapprove of Rossi's double standards on track and his off-track shenanigans/manipulations, but he didn't crash overly in general let alone crash other riders out, with any frequency although this depended on the skill and standards of other riders on the odd famous occasion. Stoner and Pedrosa after their rookie seasons and Lorenzo in his pomp had good records for not crashing other riders out of races and racing cleanly. Along with Gaz I am not so sure about the quality of the current fields in either MotoGP or F1, for supposedly the best riders and drivers in the world they do seem to crash excessively. As he also said that Stoner previously and Pedrosa now could set competitive times years into retirement is also impressive, Stoner iirc and not through rose colored glasses was immediately competitive with a guy who later contended for titles on a Ducati which seemed to render Gigi a tad wistful at the time.
I didn't see the Morbidelli incident, but he isn't exactly on a good bike.
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I blame the Michelins for most of the crashes nowadays
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Lorenzo on the 250 had some issues with crashing other rider cumulating with Dovi in montegi. One of JLo's best traits as a rider was to learn from his mistakes. He had an incredible ability to adapt the style that made him the legend he became.
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The sprint racing is so good that it is showing the short comings of the main race. The light tank of fuel on the fact that they don't have to worry about tire wear makes for a truly exciting race. This is a problem. The saturday sprint race for dorna cash shouldn't not be the highlight of the weekend. The product they put out on sunday needs to be as good or better than this or they are doing it wrong. Better tires lighter bikes. I'm not sure what the resolution for this is but it makes the main race so boring after have such great racing on saturdays. Its not good for the sport.
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Why not 3 sprints. 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. One leads off the racing followed by lower classes, then second follows.
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Sure, totally agree. If he had continued riding as he did in his first premier class season he would have been lucky to survive a motogp career let alone win multiple titles. He had multiple concussions as I recall. I didn’t follow the 250s very intensiveywhen races that class but he was certainly an aggressive rider then.
